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100% agree. This is really a meaningless fight for Wlad. It will do nothing for his career. It means something now cuz of the Haye groupies. But in 2 years it'll be "Haye was smaller" "Wlad beat up a Cruiswerweight" He will get no credit for the win
To be fair there isn't many wins that you would give him a great deal of credit for.....

Ray Austin
Tony Thopmson
Hasim Rahman
Calvin Brock
Chris Byrd
Even Ibragimov purely because of the manner in which he won.
Samuel Peter
Even Lamon Brewster only looks half decent because he was avenging a defeat.

He's fought complete plodders and has had every physical advantage imaginable....yet in a number of fights he's made it hard fucking work.

The heavyweight division is beyond embarrassing - made up with fighters who are a good 2 stone over-weight, lacking the fitness to punch and move. The Klitschko's should be dominating.

This fight is a much harder fight for Wlad. For one he won't have 3 minutes thinking time while his opponent is stood directly infront of him. Haye will make him move, make him fight and if Samuel Peter's cuffing shots can put him down, anything landed by Haye could mean lights out. By the same token anything landed by Wlad could mean lights out for Haye. That's why it's such an intriguing fight.

How anyone thinks this is meaningless is beyond me.
Thank you. That is exactly what I'm talking about. For whatever reasons people love to bad mouth Wlad. If people like you ain't giving him credit on his wins over Peter, Thompson, Byrd and Brock what the fukk makes you think there going to give him credit for his win over Haye? A much smaller fighter with chin and stamina issues. They won't.
Chris Byrd- was the #1 ranked heavyweight in the world at the time, and he had been #1 for at least a year. And that was not only by The Ring, but by every other legitimate boxing journalist.

Calvin Brock and Samuel Peter were both undefeated top 10 contenders.

Sultan Ibragimov- was a title unification

Tony Thopmson and Ray Austin were knockouts of alphabet mandatories

Lamon Brewster- avenging a loss

Hasim Rahman- well I will give you that one. Rahman was spent.