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    Default Re: I can see the future!!! Klitschko-Haye

    So skel, you would NOT want to see Valuev get KO'd?!?!

    As for the terms and rematch clauses, who's taking the risk here? David Haye is going to be making good money even if he did get shafted on the contract, but Wladimir is risking his titles and standing in the division to fight someone who has little experience at heavyweight and who has already been KO'd by an ancient cruiserweight....David Haye could be the best heavyweight out there but his record does leave doubts as to the extent of his skill and were Wladimir to lose to him it would stir up numerous doubts about his standing in the division.

    This isn't the first time rematch clauses have been used, maybe the first that involved brothers but this is the first time two brothers have run the division. Are you telling me if Haye was to beat Wladimir that a fight with Vitali would not make sense and given Vitali's age and occasional health problems that an immediate fight between Haye and Vitali would be a bad thing

    This fight may be big right now but had Haye fought oh, I don't know a REAL contender and scored an impressive KO, then I certainly would be more worried about Wlad's chances, but right now it's as I said: If Haye wins then Wlad is a bum and if Wlad loses then Wlad is a bum and Haye is the greatest ever......it's lose-lose for Wladimir no matter how the fight ends, until he gets paid of course
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    Default Re: I can see the future!!! Klitschko-Haye

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    So skel, you would NOT want to see Valuev get KO'd?!?!

    As for the terms and rematch clauses, who's taking the risk here? David Haye is going to be making good money even if he did get shafted on the contract, but Wladimir is risking his titles and standing in the division to fight someone who has little experience at heavyweight and who has already been KO'd by an ancient cruiserweight....David Haye could be the best heavyweight out there but his record does leave doubts as to the extent of his skill and were Wladimir to lose to him it would stir up numerous doubts about his standing in the division.

    This isn't the first time rematch clauses have been used, maybe the first that involved brothers but this is the first time two brothers have run the division. Are you telling me if Haye was to beat Wladimir that a fight with Vitali would not make sense and given Vitali's age and occasional health problems that an immediate fight between Haye and Vitali would be a bad thing

    This fight may be big right now but had Haye fought oh, I don't know a REAL contender and scored an impressive KO, then I certainly would be more worried about Wlad's chances, but right now it's as I said: If Haye wins then Wlad is a bum and if Wlad loses then Wlad is a bum and Haye is the greatest ever......it's lose-lose for Wladimir no matter how the fight ends, until he gets paid of course

    I agree with most you say Lyle and of course if Haye beat Wlad,obviously we would all want to see Vitali, but yes Haye is probably getting the biggest pay day ever and is getting a shot at an early stage of his heavyweight career. I think Wlad made the demands he has which i feel is over the top to be honest,becuase he has doubts even though the natural direction would probably be Vitali after the fight, but i think people forget that Haye was undisputed 200 Lb champion, hes not a nobody that has come from nowhere.

    Also yes Lyle i would like to see Valuev get ko'd but can you honestly say you would rather see Wlad fight Valuev rather than Haye?

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    Default Re: I can see the future!!! Klitschko-Haye

    Quote Originally Posted by skel1983 View Post
    Also yes Lyle i would like to see Valuev get ko'd but can you honestly say you would rather see Wlad fight Valuev rather than Haye?
    For the sake of the sport and the integrity of the heavyweight division YES. I would love to see each Klitschko brother hold 2 belts and eventually have Vitali retire and Wladimir hold all 4 belts.

    However the timing isn't right currently and I welcome a fight with David Haye, but I just don't think David is ready and looking at Cris Arreola on the scales, I just think this fight could have been built up better....but it is what it is and I just hope that people can look past whatever they think about the actual contracts and just be happy that the fight got made.

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