Miguel Cotto, what if....

[ElTerribleMorales]

indeed

Danny beat you to it boy, so now run off to the "Pac thongs for sale" thread. They got some new designs in I heard.

you shouldn't be laughin so much cause at least it was against a fighter who was thought to be game and now under suspicion of using illegal wraps, not brutally against an old fighter who was very much passed it like your man Haye

I find it comical you say how I love David Haye...yet your lame ass brings Haye up. What has Haye got to do with this ?

you banned yourself cause you couldn't take all the Haye bashing lol so what are you talking about

Actually I banned myself because I had schoolwork to complete. Some of us are actually aiming to better ourselves all the time.

Danny beat you to it boy, so now run off to the "Pac thongs for sale" thread. They got some new designs in I heard.

and you'd be the first in line to watch David Haye's nude calender shoot, you'd probably volunteer to hold his fire hose if he was doing a firefighter shot

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and i know you're gonna try and blast me with some bullshit diss about Morales, but the only difference is Erik is a legend and Haye is about to get KTFO AGAIN!!! lol

Again...what has Haye got to do with this ?...and please how is it 3 nil....your just repeating yourself and adding a few smileys run along now kid

See my points above in bold.

point is anybody says that Wlad is gonna destroy Haye (and he will) or that he doesn't even deserve a shot at the title (he doesn't) you end up crying a river, and i'm no kid, i'm done with all the schoolwork bub, have a college degree at just 23 yrs of age, so yea go beat it, and i don't mean beat it to your pics of Haye either

[leftylee]

Danny beat you to it boy, so now run off to the "Pac thongs for sale" thread. They got some new designs in I heard.

you shouldn't be laughin so much cause at least it was against a fighter who was thought to be game and now under suspicion of using illegal wraps, not brutally against an old fighter who was very much passed it like your man Haye

I find it comical you say how I love David Haye...yet your lame ass brings Haye up. What has Haye got to do with this ?

you banned yourself cause you couldn't take all the Haye bashing lol so what are you talking about

Actually I banned myself because I had schoolwork to complete. Some of us are actually aiming to better ourselves all the time.


and you'd be the first in line to watch David Haye's nude calender shoot, you'd probably volunteer to hold his fire hose if he was doing a firefighter shot

3-0

and i know you're gonna try and blast me with some bullshit diss about Morales, but the only difference is Erik is a legend and Haye is about to get KTFO AGAIN!!! lol

Again...what has Haye got to do with this ?...and please how is it 3 nil....your just repeating yourself and adding a few smileys run along now kid

See my points above in bold.

point is anybody says that Wlad is gonna destroy Haye (and he will) or that he doesn't even deserve a shot at the title (he doesn't) you end up crying a river, and i'm no kid, i'm done with all the schoolwork bub, have a college degree at just 23 yrs of age, so yea go beat it, and i don't mean beat it to your pics of Haye either

Something tells me you're all bark and no bite, now it's your job to prove me wrong.

Let's have an avatar bet for 3 months? Simple terms deal or no deal, what do you say big man ? By the way I got a sig and rep points bet with DaxxKahn so I cant do those. They're for a WHOLE YEAR. That's how confident I am on Haye winning.

[Chino]

and was the favorite going into the pro fight, Cotto beat him easily

How can Abdulaev be a favorite vs Cotto back then when Cotto was totally unbeaten, with 19 KOs in 24 fights while Abdulaev barely had only 13 fights pro experience with 2 DQ wins and a KO loss already vs bunch of guys who brought nothing to the ring? It just doesn't make sense.

guys like Maussa, Torres, etc. didn't have much on their record before they fought Cotto

Exactly. Reason why I see all these guys in Cotto's resume and not get impressed. Let's say those guys, after fighting Cotto, accomplished great victories vs lots of young top big names in their prime and won all kinds of championships, still, it doesn't do anything to the fact that when they faced Cotto they had nothing to bring to the ring and therefore Cotto stepped over them adding more victories to his resume and KOs. Actually, not really stepped over them since many of them rocked Cotto, bruised him, cut him, hurt him, almost TKOed him, etc.

[ElTerribleMorales]

and was the favorite going into the pro fight, Cotto beat him easily

How can Abdulaev be a favorite vs Cotto back then when Cotto was totally unbeaten, with 19 KOs in 24 fights while Abdulaev barely had only 13 fights pro experience with 2 DQ wins and a KO loss already vs bunch of guys who brought nothing to the ring? It just doesn't make sense.

guys like Maussa, Torres, etc. didn't have much on their record before they fought Cotto

Exactly. Reason why I see all these guys in Cotto's resume and not get impressed. Let's say those guys, after fighting Cotto, accomplished great victories vs lots of young top big names in their prime and won all kinds of championships, still, it doesn't do anything to the fact that when they faced Cotto they had nothing to bring to the ring and therefore Cotto stepped over them adding more victories to his resume and KOs. Actually, not really stepped over them since many of them rocked Cotto, bruised him, cut him, hurt him, almost TKOed him, etc.

the fact that they went on to be successful is enough proof that they were fully capable of of challenging and testing anyone

[Chino]

and was the favorite going into the pro fight, Cotto beat him easily

How can Abdulaev be a favorite vs Cotto back then when Cotto was totally unbeaten, with 19 KOs in 24 fights while Abdulaev barely had only 13 fights pro experience with 2 DQ wins and a KO loss already vs bunch of guys who brought nothing to the ring? It just doesn't make sense.

guys like Maussa, Torres, etc. didn't have much on their record before they fought Cotto

Exactly. Reason why I see all these guys in Cotto's resume and not get impressed. Let's say those guys, after fighting Cotto, accomplished great victories vs lots of young top big names in their prime and won all kinds of championships, still, it doesn't do anything to the fact that when they faced Cotto they had nothing to bring to the ring and therefore Cotto stepped over them adding more victories to his resume and KOs. Actually, not really stepped over them since many of them rocked Cotto, bruised him, cut him, hurt him, almost TKOed him, etc.

the fact that they went on to be successful is enough proof that they were fully capable of of challenging and testing anyone

Not really, it means that Cotto faced them when they didn't bring anything to the ring and beat them with ease, well, not really with ease when most of those guys gave Cotto trouble and almost even had the referee saving Cotto from receiving more punishment. Past Cotto opponents don't really raise an eyebrow to me and still they gave Cotto trouble.

Anyways, let's go back to Cotto's resume and see where his past opponents are now.

Carlos Maussa had an inflated resume vs opponents that brought nothing to the ring so I am not sure if we can really say that beating Carlos Maussa was a totally awesome accomplishment. Where is he now? He lost his very last 3 fights and by KO.

Mohamad Abdulaev retired with just only 15 fights loosing his last 2 fights badly.

Marcus Corley's lost 7 of his very last 9 fights.

Where are they now?

[ElTerribleMorales]

How can Abdulaev be a favorite vs Cotto back then when Cotto was totally unbeaten, with 19 KOs in 24 fights while Abdulaev barely had only 13 fights pro experience with 2 DQ wins and a KO loss already vs bunch of guys who brought nothing to the ring? It just doesn't make sense.

Exactly. Reason why I see all these guys in Cotto's resume and not get impressed. Let's say those guys, after fighting Cotto, accomplished great victories vs lots of young top big names in their prime and won all kinds of championships, still, it doesn't do anything to the fact that when they faced Cotto they had nothing to bring to the ring and therefore Cotto stepped over them adding more victories to his resume and KOs. Actually, not really stepped over them since many of them rocked Cotto, bruised him, cut him, hurt him, almost TKOed him, etc.

the fact that they went on to be successful is enough proof that they were fully capable of of challenging and testing anyone

Not really, it means that Cotto faced them when they didn't bring anything to the ring and beat them with ease, well, not really with ease when most of those guys gave Cotto trouble and almost even had the referee saving Cotto from receiving more punishment. Past Cotto opponents don't really raise an eyebrow to me and still they gave Cotto trouble.

Anyways, let's go back to Cotto's resume and see where his past opponents are now.

Carlos Maussa had an inflated resume vs opponents that brought nothing to the ring so I am not sure if we can really say that beating Carlos Maussa was a totally awesome accomplishment. Where is he now? He lost his very last 3 fights and by KO.

Mohamad Abdulaev retired with just only 15 fights loosing his last 2 fights badly.

Marcus Corley's lost 7 of his very last 9 fights.

Where are they now?

don't know what fights you watched, he was rocked against Corley and then regained composure and outboxed him, and although it was stopped early the one dropping to his knee like a bitch 3 times in the same round was Corley, even if the fight continued he was gonna get KO'd and badly
Torres got dropped, came back and rocked Cotto, and Miguel regained composure, only time he was dropped and he still stood toe to toe with Torres dropping him with the straight right and then finally stopping him with the hook to the body, Torres went on to become WBO and stopping Holt (who by the way is still a big player at 140), only other fighter aside from Margarito to hurt him was Judah and well you know who took the worst beating there, if we're gonna go by your logic of they hadn't accomplished anything when they fought the marquee fighter here are a bunch of Mayweathers wins that shouldn't really be considered all that great,

Jesus Chavez
Carlos "el famoso" Hernandez
Angel Manfredy
hell not even Jose Luis Castillo seeing how he had only beat slightly faded fighters or controversial decisions at that time and already had 4 losses all by TKO (even though due to cuts)

[Mr140]

Well looking at Cotto resume its ok but Torres got iced in a round and not sure were he stands now because i have not heard much. Paulie looked shitty in his outings and then got his ass handed to him by Hatton. Judha lost ever big fight damn near before Cotto and after Cotto so enough said. Then there is a Mosley win which i thought Mosley won but it was close i would of liked at least a draw but lets face it Mosley was 36 like 10 years older then Cotto and out of prime still was very close fight dude. As for the Margarito fight he lost and no proof from the fight of Margarito wrong doing just what people think but the record while show he won the fight.