So much for Mayweather-Marquez

[Violent Demise]

I hope JMM walking away from a big money PBF fight is not following the bad move committed by Team JMM before... walking away from a big money PAC rematch fight and accepted a $30k purse to fight in Indonesia only to lose to Chris John...

Team JMM needs to evaluate the situation carefully...
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Just shows money doesn't run Marquez like it does other fighters. Marquez was promised 1.5 million for the Pacquaio rematch. When they tried to come at him with $750,000 Marquez wasn't going to biitch up and give in. He walked away. Yeah what happened afterwards was unfortunate. But no fighter can predict they will be robbed in a fight

Then do you think Marquez would have a bigger chance against Mayweather at 140?

Not a big one. No. But he has a chance. At 147 he has none. Marquez shouldn't have to put on 12 pounds just to make Mayweather happy. They should fight at a catch weight of 141. Marquez can put on 6 pounds. Mayweather can drop 6 pounds.

[Manuel "Chubby" Medina]

MAYWEATHER VS. MARQUEZ NEARLY SET FOR JULY 18?

Sources close to the situation have just informed us that it's looking more and more like retired pound-for-pound king Floyd Mayweather Jr. will make his return this summer against WBA & WBO lightweight champion Juan Manuel Marquez. Mayweather was originally rumored to make his return on July 11, the same date as UFC 100, against an opponent yet to be named. Apparently, after much debate over the weight at which the fight would take place, both Mayweather and Marquez are now close to agreeing to face each other on July 18.

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http://www.fighthype.com/pages/content4762.html

I hope Marquez is beign smart about the weight agreement.

[XaduBoxer]

I hope JMM walking away from a big money PBF fight is not following the bad move committed by Team JMM before... walking away from a big money PAC rematch fight and accepted a $30k purse to fight in Indonesia only to lose to Chris John...

Team JMM needs to evaluate the situation carefully...
.

Just shows money doesn't run Marquez like it does other fighters. Marquez was promised 1.5 million for the Pacquaio rematch. When they tried to come at him with $750,000 Marquez wasn't going to biitch up and give in. He walked away. Yeah what happened afterwards was unfortunate. But no fighter can predict they will be robbed in a fight

JMM went to Indonesia (Chris John's hometown) to fight a champion (Chris John) for $30k, what do you expect him to do? Team JMM knows well that he needs to dominate John for a convincing victory or knock out the sh!t out of John... But JMM was not able to do that (I dunno why )... The fight was close and John retained the champion's belt...
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[fan johnny]

MAYWEATHER VS. MARQUEZ NEARLY SET FOR JULY 18?

Sources close to the situation have just informed us that it's looking more and more like retired pound-for-pound king Floyd Mayweather Jr. will make his return this summer against WBA & WBO lightweight champion Juan Manuel Marquez. Mayweather was originally rumored to make his return on July 11, the same date as UFC 100, against an opponent yet to be named. Apparently, after much debate over the weight at which the fight would take place, both Mayweather and Marquez are now close to agreeing to face each other on July 18.

read more

http://www.fighthype.com/pages/content4762.html

I hope Marquez is beign smart about the weight agreement.

As I recall he already opened his mouth calling out Pacquiao on weight. I would think that Mayweather Jr has Marquez on this one and they'll be meeting at a catch weight. but I also don't think they have agreed on that yet. Keep in mind that this is a leaked story and nothing is offical. When they work out the details of the fight we'll hear weight, money (possibly) and the venue.

The question is will Marquez be holding on to any of his belts because sactioning bodies will be asking for money from Marquez for a non-weightclass and a non-title fight. If Marquez loses this one, and bets are he will lose easily, after vacating belts his value goes down.

[Killa From Manila]

MAYWEATHER VS. MARQUEZ NEARLY SET FOR JULY 18?

Sources close to the situation have just informed us that it's looking more and more like retired pound-for-pound king Floyd Mayweather Jr. will make his return this summer against WBA & WBO lightweight champion Juan Manuel Marquez. Mayweather was originally rumored to make his return on July 11, the same date as UFC 100, against an opponent yet to be named. Apparently, after much debate over the weight at which the fight would take place, both Mayweather and Marquez are now close to agreeing to face each other on July 18.

read more

http://www.fighthype.com/pages/content4762.html

I hope Marquez is beign smart about the weight agreement.

As I recall he already opened his mouth calling out Pacquiao on weight. I would think that Mayweather Jr has Marquez on this one and they'll be meeting at a catch weight. but I also don't think they have agreed on that yet. Keep in mind that this is a leaked story and nothing is offical. When they work out the details of the fight we'll hear weight, money (possibly) and the venue.

The question is will Marquez be holding on to any of his belts because sactioning bodies will be asking for money from Marquez for a non-weightclass and a non-title fight. If Marquez loses this one, and bets are he will lose easily, after vacating belts his value goes down.

That depends. If he is able to succeed against Floyd then chances are he'll go back down at 140 and compete with Pacquiao other big names there. If he losses, then he'll go back to 135 and hold his belts.

If he losses with Floyd (which I think he will) but showed a very competitive performance, I don't he will hurt his overall status that much.

[Violent Demise]

I hope JMM walking away from a big money PBF fight is not following the bad move committed by Team JMM before... walking away from a big money PAC rematch fight and accepted a $30k purse to fight in Indonesia only to lose to Chris John...

Team JMM needs to evaluate the situation carefully...
.

Just shows money doesn't run Marquez like it does other fighters. Marquez was promised 1.5 million for the Pacquaio rematch. When they tried to come at him with $750,000 Marquez wasn't going to biitch up and give in. He walked away. Yeah what happened afterwards was unfortunate. But no fighter can predict they will be robbed in a fight

JMM went to Indonesia (Chris John's hometown) to fight a champion (Chris John) for $30k, what do you expect him to do? Team JMM knows well that he needs to dominate John for a convincing victory or knock out the sh!t out of John... But JMM was not able to do that (I dunno why )... The fight was close and John retained the champion's belt...
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Some of you clowns really need help with your Boxing knowledge. Marquez had 2 points that were unfairly deducted form him. And he still did enough to get the win. To consider John the champion in that fight over Marquez was a disgrace. The only reason John even had a title was cuz it was stolen from Marquez for not facing Fahprakorb Rakk... whatever the fukk his name is.

[ICB]

I hope JMM walking away from a big money PBF fight is not following the bad move committed by Team JMM before... walking away from a big money PAC rematch fight and accepted a $30k purse to fight in Indonesia only to lose to Chris John...

Team JMM needs to evaluate the situation carefully...
.

Just shows money doesn't run Marquez like it does other fighters. Marquez was promised 1.5 million for the Pacquaio rematch. When they tried to come at him with $750,000 Marquez wasn't going to biitch up and give in. He walked away. Yeah what happened afterwards was unfortunate. But no fighter can predict they will be robbed in a fight

JMM went to Indonesia (Chris John's hometown) to fight a champion (Chris John) for $30k, what do you expect him to do? Team JMM knows well that he needs to dominate John for a convincing victory or knock out the sh!t out of John... But JMM was not able to do that (I dunno why )... The fight was close and John retained the champion's belt...
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Agreed it was a stupid move on JMM's part but personally, i have seen the fight a few times. And personally if anyone has seen the fight, i don't think anybody being an unbiased fan can honestly tell me. That Chris John deserved that fight and that the ref wasn't unfair taking those 2 points away for low blows ? as i recall ?

[XaduBoxer]

Just shows money doesn't run Marquez like it does other fighters. Marquez was promised 1.5 million for the Pacquaio rematch. When they tried to come at him with $750,000 Marquez wasn't going to biitch up and give in. He walked away. Yeah what happened afterwards was unfortunate. But no fighter can predict they will be robbed in a fight

JMM went to Indonesia (Chris John's hometown) to fight a champion (Chris John) for $30k, what do you expect him to do? Team JMM knows well that he needs to dominate John for a convincing victory or knock out the sh!t out of John... But JMM was not able to do that (I dunno why )... The fight was close and John retained the champion's belt...
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Some of you clowns really need help with your Boxing knowledge. Marquez had 2 points that were unfairly deducted form him. And he still did enough to get the win. To consider John the champion in that fight over Marquez was a disgrace. The only reason John even had a title was cuz it was stolen from Marquez for not facing Fahprakorb Rakk... whatever the fukk his name is.

JMM did threw some low blows maybe out of frustration that he can't catch John thus the deductions... Fact is, Chris John the champion and JMM the challenger in that fight... The challenger needs to do more in order to dethrone the champion... JMM didn't do that...

Here's one of JMM's clear low blows:





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[fan johnny]

Just shows money doesn't run Marquez like it does other fighters. Marquez was promised 1.5 million for the Pacquaio rematch. When they tried to come at him with $750,000 Marquez wasn't going to biitch up and give in. He walked away. Yeah what happened afterwards was unfortunate. But no fighter can predict they will be robbed in a fight

JMM went to Indonesia (Chris John's hometown) to fight a champion (Chris John) for $30k, what do you expect him to do? Team JMM knows well that he needs to dominate John for a convincing victory or knock out the sh!t out of John... But JMM was not able to do that (I dunno why )... The fight was close and John retained the champion's belt...
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Agreed it was a stupid move on JMM's part but personally, i have seen the fight a few times. And personally if anyone has seen the fight, i don't think anybody being an unbiased fan can honestly tell me. That Chris John deserved that fight and that the ref wasn't unfair taking those 2 points away for low blows ? as i recall ?

I saw that fight and am not impressed with Chis John's running at all, but all that really means is the performance Marquez had against John was crap. JMM just couldn't catch him and do enough to win and that why he lost. It's not because he looked the part of being a better boxer by being the aggressor. Marquez's counter style didn't work and he could cut the ring effectively against John. Even not taking away Marquez's low blow points he still loses the fight on the score cards. It was the most boring fight I've even see Marquez in. If we see similar scoring performance but against Floyd Jr, Floyd will gets accolades, but because against John, he gets "you cheated" well... at least he didn't use protective gauze.

[Nameless]

I don't know if the fight will ever happens but you can be certain of one thing: Nacho Beristain will never the fight happens if it is not at a weight that will neutralize too much JMM's abilities, never, especially as he bears, somehow, a part of the responsibility for Oscar's draining into his match against DLH (not totally as he was not the nutritionist, I agree, but as a headcoach, he has a part of it and should have stepped when he say it wasn't turning properly). He won't let it happens 2 times with 2 of the top fighters he did train, especially for his legacy and not to stain the +/-16 world champions he has under his belt. For that single reason, you can be sure that if the fight happens, it will be at a catchy weight that won't disadvantage Marquez.

[Gandalf]

I've not read through the thread since I last posted, but since we are on the topic of Marquez: John...Marquez won that fight clearly, you can't stop every fighter, especially a fighter intent on moving at every opportunity.

Saddoboxer probably equates the Chris John result with the recent Pac result against Marquez. After all nobody can argue with the judges scorecard despite who obviously deserved the nod.

[fan johnny]

I've not read through the thread since I last posted, but since we are on the topic of Marquez: John...Marquez won that fight clearly, you can't stop every fighter, especially a fighter intent on moving at every opportunity.

Saddoboxer probably equates the Chris John result with the recent Pac result against Marquez. After all nobody can argue with the judges scorecard despite who obviously deserved the nod.

It's your opinion and I respect it. Marquez lost that fight and that's my opinion and it just happens to be the official opinion for the fight as well.