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    Quote Originally Posted by leftylee View Post
    SaddoBoxer the Guardian is not a leading UK newspaper. If you lived in Britain you would know that, its full of bias articles.

    As for the Frank Warren statement do you seriousley take into account what he says about Hatton ? Frank Warren hasn't had one good word to say about Hatton since he left his stable. He's one bitter person. He even picked Malignaggi and Lazcano to beat Hatton.

    But you know what, if it makes you believe that Pac has a better chance cuz these "Major UK newspapers" and "Frank Warren" says he will then so be it but let me warn you, you are only fooling yourself
    Even if "The Guardian" is not a leading UK paper, it's still a UK paper... This article lambasting Hatton talking sh!t is not from a Philippines newspaper, it's from a British newspaper and probably written by a Brit...

    Granting Frank Warren picked Lazcano and Mallignaggi to defeat Hatton then Warren can't be wrong 3 times in a row by picking Pacquiao this time... What do you think of Frank Warren, is he Teddy Atlas??
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    Default Re: Do you think PAC will inflict the worst beating ever on Hatton?

    Quote Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by leftylee View Post
    SaddoBoxer the Guardian is not a leading UK newspaper. If you lived in Britain you would know that, its full of bias articles.

    As for the Frank Warren statement do you seriousley take into account what he says about Hatton ? Frank Warren hasn't had one good word to say about Hatton since he left his stable. He's one bitter person. He even picked Malignaggi and Lazcano to beat Hatton.

    But you know what, if it makes you believe that Pac has a better chance cuz these "Major UK newspapers" and "Frank Warren" says he will then so be it but let me warn you, you are only fooling yourself
    Even if "The Guardian" is not a leading UK paper, it's still a UK paper... This article lambasting Hatton talking sh!t is not from a Philippines newspaper, it's from a British newspaper and probably written by a Brit...

    Granting Frank Warren picked Lazcano and Mallignaggi to defeat Hatton then Warren can't be wrong 3 times in a row by picking Pacquiao this time... What do you think of Frank Warren, is he Teddy Atlas??
    .
    Most people use The Guardian for wrapping chips. I have never known anybody to actually read The Guardian.

    Unlike in the Philippines, we also don't treat our sports stars like gods and write only positive things about them. The freedom of the press allows negative articles to seep through, as well as positive ones supporting Hatton. There are a lot of Brits who will criticise Hatton. I would imagine a lot less Filipinos would criticise Pac. Britain is not a culture with a group think mentality, unlike the Philippines. It might explain the Pac hugger phenomenon. Many Asian (and also some non Asian coutries) have this trait, so this is no slur upon the Philippines BTW.

    Finally, Frank Warren is a prick. He has never got over the fact that he tried to offer Hatton crap money and Hatton decided to walk away. He will pick every opponent against Hatton until the day Hatton retires.

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    Latest Roach interview:

    Michael David Smith: You were extremely confident that Manny would beat Oscar De La Hoya. Are you equally confident of Manny's chances against Ricky Hatton?
    Freddie Roach: Definitely. Manny will knock Ricky out, for sure. I'm very confident. I've studied Ricky Hatton's tapes. He has too many flaws for Manny Pacquiao. He's made for Manny Pacquiao.

    How important is studying film and how much time have you spent looking for Ricky's flaws and developing a game plan for Manny?
    I've watched Ricky Hatton nightly for the last two and a half months. I try to pick up everything I can and relay that back to my fighter, and get Manny ready to fight his fight. He's definitely ready.

    Who's a tougher opponent for Manny, Hatton or De La Hoya?
    I think Hatton will be a tougher fight. Going into the fight with Oscar I thought it would be tougher. It didn't work out that way but I look at it as, Manny had a great night.

    What challenges does Hatton pose that Oscar doesn't?
    I think Hatton is more physical, and when he puts you on the ropes he uses his shoulders and forearms, so we have to be careful, we can't go against the ropes too often.

    Is 140 pounds a good weight for Manny?
    It's his best weight, for sure. He's gotten used to 140 pounds. I've had him in with 140-pound sparring partners, and he's gone through seven sparring partners, the most we've ever had. Manny's a compassionate guy, he doesn't want to hurt people -- if he hurts a sparring partner he backs off, of course. But he's very physical and strong at 140. I know (Hatton's trainer) Floyd Mayweather Sr. thinks he has the stronger fighter, but I don't think so.

    You metioned that Manny is compassionate. He seems like such a nice guy out of the ring, but in the ring he has a killer instinct. How can a nice guy outside the ring turn it on like that?

    He is very effective in the ring, he likes to exchange, he has that killer instinct, but at the same time, in the Oscar fight I thought he had him in the corner and backed off when I thought he should have finished him. Sometimes he doesn't want to embarrass people. Sometimes I have to urge him not to go lightly with guys. Sometimes I have to scold him in the corner to finish somebody.

    Another aspect of Manny's personality is his generosity with his friends and his family. He's currently living in a place in Los Angeles with nine buddies. Do you worry that his friends are a distraction from the task at hand?
    I've always worried about that, but they know the fight is coming up. We have a curfew of 9 o'clock, and everyone's in bed by 9. I have my assistant, Michael Moorer, go check on that, so that curfew is enforced. It's not a bad situation. He has his Filipino crew and they like to be around each other, they enjoy each other's company, they play cards and things like that.

    What do you think the future holds for Manny? Do you think we'll see him fight Floyd Mayweather Jr.?
    I do. I tell everyone I'd love to see Manny fight two more fights and retire. Everybody says I'm crazy because he can make so much money, but I think he fights Mayweather and (Juan Manuel) Marquez and call it a day. What else does he have to prove? I'd like to see him retire, go into politics and maybe be president of the Philippines. But I would definitely like to see him fight Floyd and hopefully we can get that to happen.

    Is Manny the type of guy who would retire on top?
    I think he would. He really wants to get into politics because he wants to help his country. He's going to college now and educating himself to get ready for that position. If the right fights come, if the Mayweather fight comes and he gets that victory, what better way to retire? That would be great.

    What do you think Manny's legacy in boxing will be? When we look back some day, how historically great will we say he was?
    We'll look back on him as the greatest fighter of his era, of course. He brought big money to the smaller weight classes and he's the most exciting fighter in the world. That will be his label, that he's so fun to watch.


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    Default Re: Do you think PAC will inflict the worst beating ever on Hatton?

    Quote Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer View Post
    Latest Roach interview:

    Michael David Smith: You were extremely confident that Manny would beat Oscar De La Hoya. Are you equally confident of Manny's chances against Ricky Hatton?
    Freddie Roach: Definitely. Manny will knock Ricky out, for sure. I'm very confident. I've studied Ricky Hatton's tapes. He has too many flaws for Manny Pacquiao. He's made for Manny Pacquiao.

    How important is studying film and how much time have you spent looking for Ricky's flaws and developing a game plan for Manny?
    I've watched Ricky Hatton nightly for the last two and a half months. I try to pick up everything I can and relay that back to my fighter, and get Manny ready to fight his fight. He's definitely ready.

    Who's a tougher opponent for Manny, Hatton or De La Hoya?
    I think Hatton will be a tougher fight. Going into the fight with Oscar I thought it would be tougher. It didn't work out that way but I look at it as, Manny had a great night.

    What challenges does Hatton pose that Oscar doesn't?
    I think Hatton is more physical, and when he puts you on the ropes he uses his shoulders and forearms, so we have to be careful, we can't go against the ropes too often.

    Is 140 pounds a good weight for Manny?
    It's his best weight, for sure. He's gotten used to 140 pounds. I've had him in with 140-pound sparring partners, and he's gone through seven sparring partners, the most we've ever had. Manny's a compassionate guy, he doesn't want to hurt people -- if he hurts a sparring partner he backs off, of course. But he's very physical and strong at 140. I know (Hatton's trainer) Floyd Mayweather Sr. thinks he has the stronger fighter, but I don't think so.

    You metioned that Manny is compassionate. He seems like such a nice guy out of the ring, but in the ring he has a killer instinct. How can a nice guy outside the ring turn it on like that?

    He is very effective in the ring, he likes to exchange, he has that killer instinct, but at the same time, in the Oscar fight I thought he had him in the corner and backed off when I thought he should have finished him. Sometimes he doesn't want to embarrass people. Sometimes I have to urge him not to go lightly with guys. Sometimes I have to scold him in the corner to finish somebody.

    Another aspect of Manny's personality is his generosity with his friends and his family. He's currently living in a place in Los Angeles with nine buddies. Do you worry that his friends are a distraction from the task at hand?
    I've always worried about that, but they know the fight is coming up. We have a curfew of 9 o'clock, and everyone's in bed by 9. I have my assistant, Michael Moorer, go check on that, so that curfew is enforced. It's not a bad situation. He has his Filipino crew and they like to be around each other, they enjoy each other's company, they play cards and things like that.

    What do you think the future holds for Manny? Do you think we'll see him fight Floyd Mayweather Jr.?
    I do. I tell everyone I'd love to see Manny fight two more fights and retire. Everybody says I'm crazy because he can make so much money, but I think he fights Mayweather and (Juan Manuel) Marquez and call it a day. What else does he have to prove? I'd like to see him retire, go into politics and maybe be president of the Philippines. But I would definitely like to see him fight Floyd and hopefully we can get that to happen.

    Is Manny the type of guy who would retire on top?
    I think he would. He really wants to get into politics because he wants to help his country. He's going to college now and educating himself to get ready for that position. If the right fights come, if the Mayweather fight comes and he gets that victory, what better way to retire? That would be great.

    What do you think Manny's legacy in boxing will be? When we look back some day, how historically great will we say he was?
    We'll look back on him as the greatest fighter of his era, of course. He brought big money to the smaller weight classes and he's the most exciting fighter in the world. That will be his label, that he's so fun to watch.

    NICE INTERVIEW.

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    Default Re: Do you think PAC will inflict the worst beating ever on Hatton?

    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by leftylee View Post
    SaddoBoxer the Guardian is not a leading UK newspaper. If you lived in Britain you would know that, its full of bias articles.

    As for the Frank Warren statement do you seriousley take into account what he says about Hatton ? Frank Warren hasn't had one good word to say about Hatton since he left his stable. He's one bitter person. He even picked Malignaggi and Lazcano to beat Hatton.

    But you know what, if it makes you believe that Pac has a better chance cuz these "Major UK newspapers" and "Frank Warren" says he will then so be it but let me warn you, you are only fooling yourself
    Even if "The Guardian" is not a leading UK paper, it's still a UK paper... This article lambasting Hatton talking sh!t is not from a Philippines newspaper, it's from a British newspaper and probably written by a Brit...

    Granting Frank Warren picked Lazcano and Mallignaggi to defeat Hatton then Warren can't be wrong 3 times in a row by picking Pacquiao this time... What do you think of Frank Warren, is he Teddy Atlas??
    .
    Most people use The Guardian for wrapping chips. I have never known anybody to actually read The Guardian.

    Unlike in the Philippines, we also don't treat our sports stars like gods and write only positive things about them. The freedom of the press allows negative articles to seep through, as well as positive ones supporting Hatton. There are a lot of Brits who will criticise Hatton. I would imagine a lot less Filipinos would criticise Pac. Britain is not a culture with a group think mentality, unlike the Philippines. It might explain the Pac hugger phenomenon. Many Asian (and also some non Asian coutries) have this trait, so this is no slur upon the Philippines BTW.

    Finally, Frank Warren is a prick. He has never got over the fact that he tried to offer Hatton crap money and Hatton decided to walk away. He will pick every opponent against Hatton until the day Hatton retires.

    Let's not make this a Philippines vs. Britain discussion... All I can say is there's also some criticism on PAC coming from Philippine media... (but I will not post those... ) Just like British media criticizing Hatton... It's the same country to country...

    Regarding Warren, he can't definitely be wrong 3 picks in a row or else, he will be the new Teddy Atlas...

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    Default Re: Do you think PAC will inflict the worst beating ever on Hatton?

    Quote Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer View Post

    Even if "The Guardian" is not a leading UK paper, it's still a UK paper... This article lambasting Hatton talking sh!t is not from a Philippines newspaper, it's from a British newspaper and probably written by a Brit...

    Granting Frank Warren picked Lazcano and Mallignaggi to defeat Hatton then Warren can't be wrong 3 times in a row by picking Pacquiao this time... What do you think of Frank Warren, is he Teddy Atlas??
    .
    Most people use The Guardian for wrapping chips. I have never known anybody to actually read The Guardian.

    Unlike in the Philippines, we also don't treat our sports stars like gods and write only positive things about them. The freedom of the press allows negative articles to seep through, as well as positive ones supporting Hatton. There are a lot of Brits who will criticise Hatton. I would imagine a lot less Filipinos would criticise Pac. Britain is not a culture with a group think mentality, unlike the Philippines. It might explain the Pac hugger phenomenon. Many Asian (and also some non Asian coutries) have this trait, so this is no slur upon the Philippines BTW.

    Finally, Frank Warren is a prick. He has never got over the fact that he tried to offer Hatton crap money and Hatton decided to walk away. He will pick every opponent against Hatton until the day Hatton retires.

    Let's not make this a Philippines vs. Britain discussion... All I can say is there's also some criticism on PAC coming from Philippine media... (but I will not post those... ) Just like British media criticizing Hatton... It's the same country to country...

    Regarding Warren, he can't definitely be wrong 3 picks in a row or else, he will be the new Teddy Atlas...
    Let's remember Frank Warren stated he would retire from promoting if David Haye ever beat his prize possession, Enzo Maccarinelli. Look what happened, Haye destroyed Enzo and Warren is still promoting.

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    Default Re: Do you think PAC will inflict the worst beating ever on Hatton?

    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by leftylee View Post
    SaddoBoxer the Guardian is not a leading UK newspaper. If you lived in Britain you would know that, its full of bias articles.

    As for the Frank Warren statement do you seriousley take into account what he says about Hatton ? Frank Warren hasn't had one good word to say about Hatton since he left his stable. He's one bitter person. He even picked Malignaggi and Lazcano to beat Hatton.

    But you know what, if it makes you believe that Pac has a better chance cuz these "Major UK newspapers" and "Frank Warren" says he will then so be it but let me warn you, you are only fooling yourself
    Even if "The Guardian" is not a leading UK paper, it's still a UK paper... This article lambasting Hatton talking sh!t is not from a Philippines newspaper, it's from a British newspaper and probably written by a Brit...

    Granting Frank Warren picked Lazcano and Mallignaggi to defeat Hatton then Warren can't be wrong 3 times in a row by picking Pacquiao this time... What do you think of Frank Warren, is he Teddy Atlas??
    .
    Most people use The Guardian for wrapping chips. I have never known anybody to actually read The Guardian.

    Unlike in the Philippines, we also don't treat our sports stars like gods and write only positive things about them. The freedom of the press allows negative articles to seep through, as well as positive ones supporting Hatton. There are a lot of Brits who will criticise Hatton. I would imagine a lot less Filipinos would criticise Pac. Britain is not a culture with a group think mentality, unlike the Philippines. It might explain the Pac hugger phenomenon. Many Asian (and also some non Asian coutries) have this trait, so this is no slur upon the Philippines BTW.

    Finally, Frank Warren is a prick. He has never got over the fact that he tried to offer Hatton crap money and Hatton decided to walk away. He will pick every opponent against Hatton until the day Hatton retires.
    Looool, I read The Guardian, I think it's a lot better than most of the UK press for the most part, although the article he quotes is a bit useless as it's written by a guy who's not even a boxing journalist & has demonstrated fuck all knowledge of the sport such as when he claimed last year that the Calzaghe-Jones fight could decide the P4P best fighter in the sport

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    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer View Post

    Even if "The Guardian" is not a leading UK paper, it's still a UK paper... This article lambasting Hatton talking sh!t is not from a Philippines newspaper, it's from a British newspaper and probably written by a Brit...

    Granting Frank Warren picked Lazcano and Mallignaggi to defeat Hatton then Warren can't be wrong 3 times in a row by picking Pacquiao this time... What do you think of Frank Warren, is he Teddy Atlas??
    .
    Most people use The Guardian for wrapping chips. I have never known anybody to actually read The Guardian.

    Unlike in the Philippines, we also don't treat our sports stars like gods and write only positive things about them. The freedom of the press allows negative articles to seep through, as well as positive ones supporting Hatton. There are a lot of Brits who will criticise Hatton. I would imagine a lot less Filipinos would criticise Pac. Britain is not a culture with a group think mentality, unlike the Philippines. It might explain the Pac hugger phenomenon. Many Asian (and also some non Asian coutries) have this trait, so this is no slur upon the Philippines BTW.

    Finally, Frank Warren is a prick. He has never got over the fact that he tried to offer Hatton crap money and Hatton decided to walk away. He will pick every opponent against Hatton until the day Hatton retires.
    Looool, I read The Guardian, I think it's a lot better than most of the UK press for the most part, although the article he quotes is a bit useless as it's written by a guy who's not even a boxing journalist & has demonstrated fuck all knowledge of the sport such as when he claimed last year that the Calzaghe-Jones fight could decide the P4P best fighter in the sport
    I think the guy has a point there... After Calzaghe defeated Roy Jones, there were some who installed him as the best P4P boxer at that time... Further Calzaghe retired being the no. 2 P4P boxer in the world behind PAC...
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post

    Most people use The Guardian for wrapping chips. I have never known anybody to actually read The Guardian.

    Unlike in the Philippines, we also don't treat our sports stars like gods and write only positive things about them. The freedom of the press allows negative articles to seep through, as well as positive ones supporting Hatton. There are a lot of Brits who will criticise Hatton. I would imagine a lot less Filipinos would criticise Pac. Britain is not a culture with a group think mentality, unlike the Philippines. It might explain the Pac hugger phenomenon. Many Asian (and also some non Asian coutries) have this trait, so this is no slur upon the Philippines BTW.

    Finally, Frank Warren is a prick. He has never got over the fact that he tried to offer Hatton crap money and Hatton decided to walk away. He will pick every opponent against Hatton until the day Hatton retires.
    Looool, I read The Guardian, I think it's a lot better than most of the UK press for the most part, although the article he quotes is a bit useless as it's written by a guy who's not even a boxing journalist & has demonstrated fuck all knowledge of the sport such as when he claimed last year that the Calzaghe-Jones fight could decide the P4P best fighter in the sport
    I think the guy has a point there... After Calzaghe defeated Roy Jones, there were some who installed him as the best P4P boxer at that time... Further Calzaghe retired being the no. 2 P4P boxer in the world behind PAC...
    .
    Please tell me you're being sarcastic...

    So if Jones had won he would have been #1

    Calzaghe retired in 3rd btw, behind your boy & a certain Juan Manuel Marquez

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    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post

    Looool, I read The Guardian, I think it's a lot better than most of the UK press for the most part, although the article he quotes is a bit useless as it's written by a guy who's not even a boxing journalist & has demonstrated fuck all knowledge of the sport such as when he claimed last year that the Calzaghe-Jones fight could decide the P4P best fighter in the sport
    I think the guy has a point there... After Calzaghe defeated Roy Jones, there were some who installed him as the best P4P boxer at that time... Further Calzaghe retired being the no. 2 P4P boxer in the world behind PAC...
    .
    Please tell me you're being sarcastic...

    So if Jones had won he would have been #1

    Calzaghe retired in 3rd btw, behind your boy & a certain Juan Manuel Marquez
    So that's his point before the fight... If Calzaghe wins, he could claim the no. 1 P4P spot... He's almost correct... We all know it won't matter for Roy Jones...

    Just like this PAC-Hatton fight, if PAC wins it will cement further his no. 1 P4P status and if Hatton wins, contrary to what Hatton repeatedly claim, Hatton won't be installed as the new P4P king...
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer View Post

    I think the guy has a point there... After Calzaghe defeated Roy Jones, there were some who installed him as the best P4P boxer at that time... Further Calzaghe retired being the no. 2 P4P boxer in the world behind PAC...
    .
    Please tell me you're being sarcastic...

    So if Jones had won he would have been #1

    Calzaghe retired in 3rd btw, behind your boy & a certain Juan Manuel Marquez
    So that's his point before the fight... If Calzaghe wins, he could claim the no. 1 P4P spot... He's almost correct... We all know it won't matter for Roy Jones...

    Just like this PAC-Hatton fight, if PAC wins it will cement further his no. 1 P4P status and if Hatton wins, contrary to what Hatton repeatedly claim, Hatton won't be installed as the new P4P king...
    .
    You can sometimes talk a lot of crap, SB. But I've bolded something very important here, that's 100% CORRECT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer View Post

    I think the guy has a point there... After Calzaghe defeated Roy Jones, there were some who installed him as the best P4P boxer at that time... Further Calzaghe retired being the no. 2 P4P boxer in the world behind PAC...
    .
    Please tell me you're being sarcastic...

    So if Jones had won he would have been #1

    Calzaghe retired in 3rd btw, behind your boy & a certain Juan Manuel Marquez
    So that's his point before the fight... If Calzaghe wins, he could claim the no. 1 P4P spot... He's almost correct... We all know it won't matter for Roy Jones...

    Just like this PAC-Hatton fight, if PAC wins it will cement further his no. 1 P4P status and if Hatton wins, contrary to what Hatton repeatedly claim, Hatton won't be installed as the new P4P king...
    .
    then same thing goes for this fight, it can decide the p4p #1 fighter, cause if Hatton kicks Pacquiao's ass, Manny sure wont be #1 anymore, that claim will go to Marquez, and back to Floyd if he does make a comeback

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