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    Default Re: Do you think PAC will inflict the worst beating ever on Hatton?

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    Willie Mays said hey to him, and a frenzied crowd at AT&T Park couldn't get enough of him. Not a bad night for Manny Pacquiao, even if they did run out of his bobblehead dolls.

    Not a bad time for boxing, either. The sport everyone loves to bash just lost its biggest cash cow in Oscar De La Hoya, but the reports of its demise are, shall we say, premature at best.

    Good thing, because where else are you going to get lines like this?

    "There's going to be another bobblehead night on May 2," said Freddie Roach, who trains Pacquiao. "Only this time we're going to use Ricky Hatton's head."




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    Default Re: Do you think PAC will inflict the worst beating ever on Hatton?

    Quote Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer View Post
    There are only 10 days left before Ricky Hatton steps into the ring with Manny Pacquiao, and trepidation over the Englishman's chances mounts with every passing hour.

    Hatton may have replaced a limited trainer — Billy Graham — with an excellent one — Floyd Mayweather Sr — but he hasn't altered his lifestyle between bouts and nor, more worryingly, does he appear to have learned to keep his trap shut lest he provide his opponent with the extra motivation that comes with prospect of making a braggart dine out on his own hubris.

    "Manny fights the same way all the time," Hatton said about his Filipino opponent this week. "He's effective at what he does but he's not a versatile fighter. He's never met a man as fiery, ferocious or rough as me, and certainly not as big and strong. I don't think Manny is the most elusive. He's there to be hit. And if he gets hit he's going to get hit by the biggest man he's ever faced."

    No doubt there was an element of the circus barker in this stream of consciousness but nevertheless Hatton surely overstepped marketing responsibilities and to potentially damaging effect. Pacquiao, as he implies, is one-dimensional all right; he's brilliant, and he is brilliant all the time.


    where do you find this crap?

    Pac's camp have made ridiculous statements all build up and not once has someone come out and said they're overstepping marketing responsibilites blah blah. nor are they seen as braggarts.

    Hatton comes out with something and bang the huggers are all over it saying he's a braggart and blah blah blah.

    The fact you guys read, believe and absord this crap is hysterical.

    I also love that anything (and I mean anything) written (by anyone) that is pro pac is considered fact and evidence of a cast-iron pac win. You guys should think back to what was being written pre-odlh and see how much certainty should be taken from all the written articles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fatsofatsoman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer View Post
    There are only 10 days left before Ricky Hatton steps into the ring with Manny Pacquiao, and trepidation over the Englishman's chances mounts with every passing hour.

    Hatton may have replaced a limited trainer — Billy Graham — with an excellent one — Floyd Mayweather Sr — but he hasn't altered his lifestyle between bouts and nor, more worryingly, does he appear to have learned to keep his trap shut lest he provide his opponent with the extra motivation that comes with prospect of making a braggart dine out on his own hubris.

    "Manny fights the same way all the time," Hatton said about his Filipino opponent this week. "He's effective at what he does but he's not a versatile fighter. He's never met a man as fiery, ferocious or rough as me, and certainly not as big and strong. I don't think Manny is the most elusive. He's there to be hit. And if he gets hit he's going to get hit by the biggest man he's ever faced."

    No doubt there was an element of the circus barker in this stream of consciousness but nevertheless Hatton surely overstepped marketing responsibilities and to potentially damaging effect. Pacquiao, as he implies, is one-dimensional all right; he's brilliant, and he is brilliant all the time.


    where do you find this crap?

    Pac's camp have made ridiculous statements all build up and not once has someone come out and said they're overstepping marketing responsibilites blah blah. nor are they seen as braggarts.

    Hatton comes out with something and bang the huggers are all over it saying he's a braggart and blah blah blah.

    The fact you guys read, believe and absord this crap is hysterical.

    I also love that anything (and I mean anything) written (by anyone) that is pro pac is considered fact and evidence of a cast-iron pac win. You guys should think back to what was being written pre-odlh and see how much certainty should be taken from all the written articles.

    Well this "crap" came from the highly respected British paper "The Guardian"...

    link --> "The Guardian is crap"


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    Default Re: Do you think PAC will inflict the worst beating ever on Hatton?

    Quote Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer View Post

    Well this "crap" came from the highly respected British paper "The Guardian"...

    link --> "The Guardian is crap"

    The Guardian - a paper run by a bunch of leftys - ok if you're a tree hugging root eater. And isn't that article written by one of their football correspondents?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fatsofatsoman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer View Post

    Well this "crap" came from the highly respected British paper "The Guardian"...

    link --> "The Guardian is crap"

    The Guardian - a paper run by a bunch of leftys - ok if you're a tree hugging root eater. And isn't that article written by one of their football correspondents?
    All I'm aware of is, that article is right there published by "The Guardian"... Most probably it's written by a Brit, I'm guessing... Could be "BigDick" too, the self-proclaimed guardian of English morale in this forum... I could be wrong tho...
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    British Promoter Frank Warren believes Manny Pacquiao will be too much for Ricky Hatton to handle when the two face off on May 2nd at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, Nevada.

    Speaking to Sky Sports, Warren told the publication that if Hatton doesn't take care of Pacquiao early, than he can't see how Hatton will win. Warren stated: "If Ricky Hatton doesn't do it early, I don't see how he can win the fight. I just think that Pacquiao will be too fast and too clever for him."

    Warren added that Hatton isn't a huge puncher and has not been stopping other fighters if you take his fight against Paulie Malignaggi out of the equation. Warren feels Hatton will lose because Pacquiao is to smart for him. "I just think Pacquiao will be too smart for him," said Warren.

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    Default Re: Do you think PAC will inflict the worst beating ever on Hatton?

    SaddoBoxer the Guardian is not a leading UK newspaper. If you lived in Britain you would know that, its full of bias articles.

    As for the Frank Warren statement do you seriousley take into account what he says about Hatton ? Frank Warren hasn't had one good word to say about Hatton since he left his stable. He's one bitter person. He even picked Malignaggi and Lazcano to beat Hatton.

    But you know what, if it makes you believe that Pac has a better chance cuz these "Major UK newspapers" and "Frank Warren" says he will then so be it but let me warn you, you are only fooling yourself

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    Quote Originally Posted by leftylee View Post
    SaddoBoxer the Guardian is not a leading UK newspaper. If you lived in Britain you would know that, its full of bias articles.

    As for the Frank Warren statement do you seriousley take into account what he says about Hatton ? Frank Warren hasn't had one good word to say about Hatton since he left his stable. He's one bitter person. He even picked Malignaggi and Lazcano to beat Hatton.

    But you know what, if it makes you believe that Pac has a better chance cuz these "Major UK newspapers" and "Frank Warren" says he will then so be it but let me warn you, you are only fooling yourself
    Even if "The Guardian" is not a leading UK paper, it's still a UK paper... This article lambasting Hatton talking sh!t is not from a Philippines newspaper, it's from a British newspaper and probably written by a Brit...

    Granting Frank Warren picked Lazcano and Mallignaggi to defeat Hatton then Warren can't be wrong 3 times in a row by picking Pacquiao this time... What do you think of Frank Warren, is he Teddy Atlas??
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    Default Re: Do you think PAC will inflict the worst beating ever on Hatton?

    Quote Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by leftylee View Post
    SaddoBoxer the Guardian is not a leading UK newspaper. If you lived in Britain you would know that, its full of bias articles.

    As for the Frank Warren statement do you seriousley take into account what he says about Hatton ? Frank Warren hasn't had one good word to say about Hatton since he left his stable. He's one bitter person. He even picked Malignaggi and Lazcano to beat Hatton.

    But you know what, if it makes you believe that Pac has a better chance cuz these "Major UK newspapers" and "Frank Warren" says he will then so be it but let me warn you, you are only fooling yourself
    Even if "The Guardian" is not a leading UK paper, it's still a UK paper... This article lambasting Hatton talking sh!t is not from a Philippines newspaper, it's from a British newspaper and probably written by a Brit...

    Granting Frank Warren picked Lazcano and Mallignaggi to defeat Hatton then Warren can't be wrong 3 times in a row by picking Pacquiao this time... What do you think of Frank Warren, is he Teddy Atlas??
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    Most people use The Guardian for wrapping chips. I have never known anybody to actually read The Guardian.

    Unlike in the Philippines, we also don't treat our sports stars like gods and write only positive things about them. The freedom of the press allows negative articles to seep through, as well as positive ones supporting Hatton. There are a lot of Brits who will criticise Hatton. I would imagine a lot less Filipinos would criticise Pac. Britain is not a culture with a group think mentality, unlike the Philippines. It might explain the Pac hugger phenomenon. Many Asian (and also some non Asian coutries) have this trait, so this is no slur upon the Philippines BTW.

    Finally, Frank Warren is a prick. He has never got over the fact that he tried to offer Hatton crap money and Hatton decided to walk away. He will pick every opponent against Hatton until the day Hatton retires.

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    Latest Roach interview:

    Michael David Smith: You were extremely confident that Manny would beat Oscar De La Hoya. Are you equally confident of Manny's chances against Ricky Hatton?
    Freddie Roach: Definitely. Manny will knock Ricky out, for sure. I'm very confident. I've studied Ricky Hatton's tapes. He has too many flaws for Manny Pacquiao. He's made for Manny Pacquiao.

    How important is studying film and how much time have you spent looking for Ricky's flaws and developing a game plan for Manny?
    I've watched Ricky Hatton nightly for the last two and a half months. I try to pick up everything I can and relay that back to my fighter, and get Manny ready to fight his fight. He's definitely ready.

    Who's a tougher opponent for Manny, Hatton or De La Hoya?
    I think Hatton will be a tougher fight. Going into the fight with Oscar I thought it would be tougher. It didn't work out that way but I look at it as, Manny had a great night.

    What challenges does Hatton pose that Oscar doesn't?
    I think Hatton is more physical, and when he puts you on the ropes he uses his shoulders and forearms, so we have to be careful, we can't go against the ropes too often.

    Is 140 pounds a good weight for Manny?
    It's his best weight, for sure. He's gotten used to 140 pounds. I've had him in with 140-pound sparring partners, and he's gone through seven sparring partners, the most we've ever had. Manny's a compassionate guy, he doesn't want to hurt people -- if he hurts a sparring partner he backs off, of course. But he's very physical and strong at 140. I know (Hatton's trainer) Floyd Mayweather Sr. thinks he has the stronger fighter, but I don't think so.

    You metioned that Manny is compassionate. He seems like such a nice guy out of the ring, but in the ring he has a killer instinct. How can a nice guy outside the ring turn it on like that?

    He is very effective in the ring, he likes to exchange, he has that killer instinct, but at the same time, in the Oscar fight I thought he had him in the corner and backed off when I thought he should have finished him. Sometimes he doesn't want to embarrass people. Sometimes I have to urge him not to go lightly with guys. Sometimes I have to scold him in the corner to finish somebody.

    Another aspect of Manny's personality is his generosity with his friends and his family. He's currently living in a place in Los Angeles with nine buddies. Do you worry that his friends are a distraction from the task at hand?
    I've always worried about that, but they know the fight is coming up. We have a curfew of 9 o'clock, and everyone's in bed by 9. I have my assistant, Michael Moorer, go check on that, so that curfew is enforced. It's not a bad situation. He has his Filipino crew and they like to be around each other, they enjoy each other's company, they play cards and things like that.

    What do you think the future holds for Manny? Do you think we'll see him fight Floyd Mayweather Jr.?
    I do. I tell everyone I'd love to see Manny fight two more fights and retire. Everybody says I'm crazy because he can make so much money, but I think he fights Mayweather and (Juan Manuel) Marquez and call it a day. What else does he have to prove? I'd like to see him retire, go into politics and maybe be president of the Philippines. But I would definitely like to see him fight Floyd and hopefully we can get that to happen.

    Is Manny the type of guy who would retire on top?
    I think he would. He really wants to get into politics because he wants to help his country. He's going to college now and educating himself to get ready for that position. If the right fights come, if the Mayweather fight comes and he gets that victory, what better way to retire? That would be great.

    What do you think Manny's legacy in boxing will be? When we look back some day, how historically great will we say he was?
    We'll look back on him as the greatest fighter of his era, of course. He brought big money to the smaller weight classes and he's the most exciting fighter in the world. That will be his label, that he's so fun to watch.


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    Default Re: Do you think PAC will inflict the worst beating ever on Hatton?

    Quote Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer View Post
    Latest Roach interview:

    Michael David Smith: You were extremely confident that Manny would beat Oscar De La Hoya. Are you equally confident of Manny's chances against Ricky Hatton?
    Freddie Roach: Definitely. Manny will knock Ricky out, for sure. I'm very confident. I've studied Ricky Hatton's tapes. He has too many flaws for Manny Pacquiao. He's made for Manny Pacquiao.

    How important is studying film and how much time have you spent looking for Ricky's flaws and developing a game plan for Manny?
    I've watched Ricky Hatton nightly for the last two and a half months. I try to pick up everything I can and relay that back to my fighter, and get Manny ready to fight his fight. He's definitely ready.

    Who's a tougher opponent for Manny, Hatton or De La Hoya?
    I think Hatton will be a tougher fight. Going into the fight with Oscar I thought it would be tougher. It didn't work out that way but I look at it as, Manny had a great night.

    What challenges does Hatton pose that Oscar doesn't?
    I think Hatton is more physical, and when he puts you on the ropes he uses his shoulders and forearms, so we have to be careful, we can't go against the ropes too often.

    Is 140 pounds a good weight for Manny?
    It's his best weight, for sure. He's gotten used to 140 pounds. I've had him in with 140-pound sparring partners, and he's gone through seven sparring partners, the most we've ever had. Manny's a compassionate guy, he doesn't want to hurt people -- if he hurts a sparring partner he backs off, of course. But he's very physical and strong at 140. I know (Hatton's trainer) Floyd Mayweather Sr. thinks he has the stronger fighter, but I don't think so.

    You metioned that Manny is compassionate. He seems like such a nice guy out of the ring, but in the ring he has a killer instinct. How can a nice guy outside the ring turn it on like that?

    He is very effective in the ring, he likes to exchange, he has that killer instinct, but at the same time, in the Oscar fight I thought he had him in the corner and backed off when I thought he should have finished him. Sometimes he doesn't want to embarrass people. Sometimes I have to urge him not to go lightly with guys. Sometimes I have to scold him in the corner to finish somebody.

    Another aspect of Manny's personality is his generosity with his friends and his family. He's currently living in a place in Los Angeles with nine buddies. Do you worry that his friends are a distraction from the task at hand?
    I've always worried about that, but they know the fight is coming up. We have a curfew of 9 o'clock, and everyone's in bed by 9. I have my assistant, Michael Moorer, go check on that, so that curfew is enforced. It's not a bad situation. He has his Filipino crew and they like to be around each other, they enjoy each other's company, they play cards and things like that.

    What do you think the future holds for Manny? Do you think we'll see him fight Floyd Mayweather Jr.?
    I do. I tell everyone I'd love to see Manny fight two more fights and retire. Everybody says I'm crazy because he can make so much money, but I think he fights Mayweather and (Juan Manuel) Marquez and call it a day. What else does he have to prove? I'd like to see him retire, go into politics and maybe be president of the Philippines. But I would definitely like to see him fight Floyd and hopefully we can get that to happen.

    Is Manny the type of guy who would retire on top?
    I think he would. He really wants to get into politics because he wants to help his country. He's going to college now and educating himself to get ready for that position. If the right fights come, if the Mayweather fight comes and he gets that victory, what better way to retire? That would be great.

    What do you think Manny's legacy in boxing will be? When we look back some day, how historically great will we say he was?
    We'll look back on him as the greatest fighter of his era, of course. He brought big money to the smaller weight classes and he's the most exciting fighter in the world. That will be his label, that he's so fun to watch.

    NICE INTERVIEW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by leftylee View Post
    SaddoBoxer the Guardian is not a leading UK newspaper. If you lived in Britain you would know that, its full of bias articles.

    As for the Frank Warren statement do you seriousley take into account what he says about Hatton ? Frank Warren hasn't had one good word to say about Hatton since he left his stable. He's one bitter person. He even picked Malignaggi and Lazcano to beat Hatton.

    But you know what, if it makes you believe that Pac has a better chance cuz these "Major UK newspapers" and "Frank Warren" says he will then so be it but let me warn you, you are only fooling yourself
    Even if "The Guardian" is not a leading UK paper, it's still a UK paper... This article lambasting Hatton talking sh!t is not from a Philippines newspaper, it's from a British newspaper and probably written by a Brit...

    Granting Frank Warren picked Lazcano and Mallignaggi to defeat Hatton then Warren can't be wrong 3 times in a row by picking Pacquiao this time... What do you think of Frank Warren, is he Teddy Atlas??
    .
    Most people use The Guardian for wrapping chips. I have never known anybody to actually read The Guardian.

    Unlike in the Philippines, we also don't treat our sports stars like gods and write only positive things about them. The freedom of the press allows negative articles to seep through, as well as positive ones supporting Hatton. There are a lot of Brits who will criticise Hatton. I would imagine a lot less Filipinos would criticise Pac. Britain is not a culture with a group think mentality, unlike the Philippines. It might explain the Pac hugger phenomenon. Many Asian (and also some non Asian coutries) have this trait, so this is no slur upon the Philippines BTW.

    Finally, Frank Warren is a prick. He has never got over the fact that he tried to offer Hatton crap money and Hatton decided to walk away. He will pick every opponent against Hatton until the day Hatton retires.

    Let's not make this a Philippines vs. Britain discussion... All I can say is there's also some criticism on PAC coming from Philippine media... (but I will not post those... ) Just like British media criticizing Hatton... It's the same country to country...

    Regarding Warren, he can't definitely be wrong 3 picks in a row or else, he will be the new Teddy Atlas...

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    ‘Speedy Gonzales’ is Pacquiao’s new nickname, says sparmate

    04/24/2009 | 05:28 PM
    For David Rodella, Manny Pacquiao is more than just the “Pacman."

    “Speedy Gonzales," the 26-year old Rodella hollered out at the end of their intense, three-round sparring session Thursday at the Wildcard Gym in Hollywood, California.

    And why “Speedy Gonzales", the animated cartoon mouse known for his fast ability?
    “I can’t see his punches. It’s just too fast," said Pacquiao’s sparmate from Oxnard, California.

    “He’s from another planet."

    Pacquiao sparred for six rounds as sparring session for his fight with Ricky Hatton entered the final three days as per Freddie Roach’s timetable.

    It was fun but at the same time intense as Rodella and Alisher Rahimov learned later.

    Rodella went toe-to-toe with the world’s top pound-for-pound fighter for three rounds, each getting his own share of solid blows.

    But when the 30-year old Pacquiao poured it on as the sparring was about to end, Rodella found himself on the verge of getting knocked down.

    “There’s just so many punches out there," said Rodella, who was dropped by Pacquiao to the canvass a week ago during a similar serious workout.

    “I also do the same thing, but he’s just too fast," added the boxer who owns a 12-1 record (six KOs).

    With that Rodella rests his case – Pacquiao will beat Hatton hands down.

    “Hatton is very strong, very smart and very aggressive, “he said. “But Manny will be too fast for him."

    The sparring came a day after Pacquiao skipped Wednesday’s training to take a well-deserved rest following a hectic schedule the day before when he flew to San Francisco for the ceremonial pitch of the San Francisco Giants-San Diego Padres Major League Baseball game.

    Pacquiao hardly lost a step when he climbed the ring and sparred with Rahimov for the first three rounds.

    "C’mon, punch! punch! punch!," the southpaw from General Santos City would egged on Rahimov while he leans on the ropes and allows his Uzbek sparmate to hit him with several solid blows to the body.

    Rodella then followed, after which Pacquiao had six rounds in the mitts with trainer Freddie Roach, did the double end bag, worked on the speed ball, shadow-boxed at the ring and finally, cooled down through the skip rope.

    When training was finally over, the General Santos City native asked for another round on the speedball, to which Roach readily obliged.

    “That’s Manny," Roach said later. “He just never gets tired."


    Last edited by XaduBoxer; 04-24-2009 at 09:33 AM.

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    More BAD news for Hatton's face:

    PACQUIAO SHARP AS A RAZOR

    Manny Pacquiao is in the best shape of his life as he prepares to face Ricky Hatton in the fight of the year next weekend.

    That was the verdict from trainer Freddie Roach after the pound-for-pound king finished a gruelling workout at the Wild Card Gym in Hollywood.
    Pacquiao and Hatton meet at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, and Roach is supremely confident that his man will come out victorious.

    He said: "Manny is in the finest shape of his career. It's amazing when you think that this will be his fourth consecutive fight in a different weight class and all against world-class competition. Last year he fought at 130, 135 and 147lbs and next week he moves down to 140. He's incredible.

    "Manny is as sharp as a razor and stronger than ever. We are prepared for the best that Ricky Hatton can muster, which is a formidable task."

    Pacquiao is coming off an awesome demolition of Oscar De La Hoya last December. Many pundits claim the 'Golden Boy' was weight-drained and shot, but Roach disagrees.

    He argued: "Ricky is about to step into quicksand and his only chance of escape will have to come from the referee or his corner.

    "He can say Manny beat a washed-up Oscar De la Hoya all he wants. Just remember, Oscar didn't become washed-up until Manny put him through the ringer."

    Roach also points to Pacquiao's record when stating the case for another glory night for the Filipino icon.

    "I'll put Manny's roster of opponents up against Ricky's any day. Manny has beaten a host of future Hall of Famers including Erik Morales, Marco Antonio Barrera, Juan Manuel Marquez and Oscar. Ricky has been dining on his Kostya Tszyu victory for a long time. That was four years ago and Tszyu was at the end of his career. Who else of note has Ricky defeated?"

    Roach ended by again repeating his confident prediction that Hatton won't make it past round three when the action finally starts next Saturday night.
    "Manny had his bobble-head night on Tuesday at the Giants-Padres game and in the ring on May 2 he's going to turn Ricky into a human bobble-head, just like he did to Oscar. I told Manny I would be disappointed if this fight goes beyond the third round."

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