FROCH v TAYLOR - 25/4/09 - ITV1 Sunday replay!

[Kev]

I think Kessler would beat Froch handily.

Yeah the trouble with Froch is he's a bit like a more skilled Andrade. He's more talented than Andrade and has the same granite chin but like Andrade he can be made to look slow and awkward by slick boxers.

His only way of beating Kessler would be to knock him out and I just don't see him doing that, Kessler is not a good matchup for Froch.

He'd do in Lucian Bute though, and even Alan Green

Him and Andrade would be great, Gatti Ward at 168

He's similar to Andrade, but not all that similar. Andrade has a better chin and puts on pressure in a much more intense way. He's also better technically IMO, though I think Froch has more one-punch power from what I've seen. I'd love to see a Froch - Andrade fight.

I think Bute beats both of them and I'm certain Kessler does.

I don't see how you can say Andrade has a better chin, I'm sure Taylor hits harder than Yusaf Mack, and he caught with two absolute bombs in that round.

Froch's chin is rock solid imo.

I think Froch beats Andrade if they meet but it would be a great fight for the fans, guaranteed excitement and action.

For the record I think Froch is technically better than Andrade, who was 1-14 as an amatuer.

Froch looks sloppy at times but he's got skills.

[CFH]

Yeah the trouble with Froch is he's a bit like a more skilled Andrade. He's more talented than Andrade and has the same granite chin but like Andrade he can be made to look slow and awkward by slick boxers.

His only way of beating Kessler would be to knock him out and I just don't see him doing that, Kessler is not a good matchup for Froch.

He'd do in Lucian Bute though, and even Alan Green

Him and Andrade would be great, Gatti Ward at 168

He's similar to Andrade, but not all that similar. Andrade has a better chin and puts on pressure in a much more intense way. He's also better technically IMO, though I think Froch has more one-punch power from what I've seen. I'd love to see a Froch - Andrade fight.

I think Bute beats both of them and I'm certain Kessler does.

I don't see how you can say Andrade has a better chin, I'm sure Taylor hits harder than Yusaf Mack, and he caught with two absolute bombs in that round.

Froch's chin is rock solid imo.

I think Froch beats Andrade if they meet but it would be a great fight for the fans, guaranteed excitement and action.

For the record I think Froch is technically better than Andrade, who was 1-14 as an amatuer.

Froch looks sloppy at times but he's got skills.

Bute and Kessler, both of whom have legitimate power beyond that of Jermaine Taylor, were landing almost at will against Andrade and he walked right through it. Taylor hurt Froch several times in this fight. Also, Mack may have dropped Andrade, which excellent punches, but Andrade never seemed seriously hurt.

[Kev]

He's similar to Andrade, but not all that similar. Andrade has a better chin and puts on pressure in a much more intense way. He's also better technically IMO, though I think Froch has more one-punch power from what I've seen. I'd love to see a Froch - Andrade fight.

I think Bute beats both of them and I'm certain Kessler does.

I don't see how you can say Andrade has a better chin, I'm sure Taylor hits harder than Yusaf Mack, and he caught with two absolute bombs in that round.

Froch's chin is rock solid imo.

I think Froch beats Andrade if they meet but it would be a great fight for the fans, guaranteed excitement and action.

For the record I think Froch is technically better than Andrade, who was 1-14 as an amatuer.

Froch looks sloppy at times but he's got skills.

Bute and Kessler, both of whom have legitimate power beyond that of Jermaine Taylor, were landing almost at will against Andrade and he walked right through it. Taylor hurt Froch several times in this fight. Also, Mack may have dropped Andrade, which excellent punches, but Andrade never seemed seriously hurt.

Bute doesn't really have power. Since stepping up to world class level he's nearly always taken the distance, even a shot William Joppy went 10 rounds. His only big KO was against Berrio but he'd already been knocked out about 5 times before.

Bute wouldn't have the power to hurt Froch, Froch would knock him out in the late rounds. Kessler is a big puncher but if I recall against Andrade it was all jabs.

I'd pick Froch over Andrade if they ever meet. Oh and Alan Green beats Andrade too

[Kev]

Fucking I think our argument about Andrade vs Froch's chins is redundant, Penalosa is getting hammered and still standing up

[Spicoli]

Lopez looks a bit tired from unloading on steel headed Gerry.Roach tells 1 more round and that it?

[CFH]

I don't see how you can say Andrade has a better chin, I'm sure Taylor hits harder than Yusaf Mack, and he caught with two absolute bombs in that round.

Froch's chin is rock solid imo.

I think Froch beats Andrade if they meet but it would be a great fight for the fans, guaranteed excitement and action.

For the record I think Froch is technically better than Andrade, who was 1-14 as an amatuer.

Froch looks sloppy at times but he's got skills.

Bute and Kessler, both of whom have legitimate power beyond that of Jermaine Taylor, were landing almost at will against Andrade and he walked right through it. Taylor hurt Froch several times in this fight. Also, Mack may have dropped Andrade, which excellent punches, but Andrade never seemed seriously hurt.

Bute doesn't really have power. Since stepping up to world class level he's nearly always taken the distance, even a shot William Joppy went 10 rounds. His only big KO was against Berrio but he'd already been knocked out about 5 times before.

Bute wouldn't have the power to hurt Froch, Froch would knock him out in the late rounds. Kessler is a big puncher but if I recall against Andrade it was all jabs.

I'd pick Froch over Andrade if they ever meet. Oh and Alan Green beats Andrade too

I disagree with almost everything you say (respectfully). Bute may not have the power his record indicates, but I'd wager he hits siginificantly harder than Jermaine Taylor, and Taylor had Froch hurt on numerous occasions.

As for the Kessler - Andrade fight, I recall Kessler's 1-2 being the story of that fight. Andrade ate a ton of straight right hands.

Andrade - Froch is close to a pick'em IMO, but I side with Andrade. And Andrade would absoluletly ruin Allan Green who's biggest claim to fame is beating up on mediocre fighters.

[CFH]

Roach needs to stop this. Penalosa has landed flush and not done any real damage to Lopez. He's going to get seriously hurt if this continues, if he isn't already.

[CFH]

Good for Roach. He could've done that a couple of rounds ago IMO. Lopez is a future P4P mainstay.

[Spicoli]

Roach stops it,He should get the humanitarian of the year award.Roach getting all watery eyed.Penalosa should not hang his head.Did every thing he could ,and did not quit! Lopez should match carefully,no rush.

[LEGION]

I never want t see a fighter go longer than he should but I question Roach stopping the fight; Grry was fighting hard in soe of that round and didn't seem hurt. Probably a good stoppage I guess; glad I wasn't the one neding to make a decision like that. Damn good fight. Lopez is a terror and what more can one say about the depth of gameness showed by Penalosa?

[LEGION]

I should have said I never want to see a fighter go longer than necessary and get hurt, unless it's Kermit Cintwrong.

[CFH]

I never want t see a fighter go longer than he should but I question Roach stopping the fight; Grry was fighting hard in soe of that round and didn't seem hurt. Probably a good stoppage I guess; glad I wasn't the one neding to make a decision like that. Damn good fight. Lopez is a terror and what more can one say about the depth of gameness showed by Penalosa?

I gotta disagree. Penalosa showed great heart and chin, but he was going to get seriously hurt. He ate 84 power punches in round 8, that's fucking obscene. I'd be unconscious if my 12 yr old niece landed that many power punches on me. Penalosa landed some serious shots on Lopez and never phased him. The stoppage was justified and a bit late IMO.

[Kev]

Bute and Kessler, both of whom have legitimate power beyond that of Jermaine Taylor, were landing almost at will against Andrade and he walked right through it. Taylor hurt Froch several times in this fight. Also, Mack may have dropped Andrade, which excellent punches, but Andrade never seemed seriously hurt.

Bute doesn't really have power. Since stepping up to world class level he's nearly always taken the distance, even a shot William Joppy went 10 rounds. His only big KO was against Berrio but he'd already been knocked out about 5 times before.

Bute wouldn't have the power to hurt Froch, Froch would knock him out in the late rounds. Kessler is a big puncher but if I recall against Andrade it was all jabs.

I'd pick Froch over Andrade if they ever meet. Oh and Alan Green beats Andrade too

I disagree with almost everything you say (respectfully). Bute may not have the power his record indicates, but I'd wager he hits siginificantly harder than Jermaine Taylor, and Taylor had Froch hurt on numerous occasions.

As for the Kessler - Andrade fight, I recall Kessler's 1-2 being the story of that fight. Andrade ate a ton of straight right hands.

Andrade - Froch is close to a pick'em IMO, but I side with Andrade. And Andrade would absoluletly ruin Allan Green who's biggest claim to fame is beating up on mediocre fighters.

Nothing wrong with respectful disagreement. Bute won't be champion for long, if Froch gets to him he's being knocked out. Froch beats Andrade imo. Froch has just won a world title beating the undefeated Jean Pascal and then just ko'd one of the world's best middleweight fighters.

Andrade has yet to win a significant fight, he always comes up short, although the Bute loss was obviously bitterly controversial.

I'd put Andrade on a level similar to Sakio Bika, a tough tough fighter but not quite good enough to be a world champ. Froch would beat him, in my respectful opinion of course.

And you seriously underate Alan Green, he's going to be making a lot of noise over the next 18 months.

[LEGION]

Bute doesn't really have power. Since stepping up to world class level he's nearly always taken the distance, even a shot William Joppy went 10 rounds. His only big KO was against Berrio but he'd already been knocked out about 5 times before.

Bute wouldn't have the power to hurt Froch, Froch would knock him out in the late rounds. Kessler is a big puncher but if I recall against Andrade it was all jabs.

I'd pick Froch over Andrade if they ever meet. Oh and Alan Green beats Andrade too

I disagree with almost everything you say (respectfully). Bute may not have the power his record indicates, but I'd wager he hits siginificantly harder than Jermaine Taylor, and Taylor had Froch hurt on numerous occasions.

As for the Kessler - Andrade fight, I recall Kessler's 1-2 being the story of that fight. Andrade ate a ton of straight right hands.

Andrade - Froch is close to a pick'em IMO, but I side with Andrade. And Andrade would absoluletly ruin Allan Green who's biggest claim to fame is beating up on mediocre fighters.

Nothing wrong with respectful disagreement. Bute won't be champion for long, if Froch gets to him he's being knocked out. Froch beats Andrade imo. Froch has just won a world title beating the undefeated Jean Pascal and then just ko'd one of the world's best middleweight fighters.

Andrade has yet to win a significant fight, he always comes up short, although the Bute loss was obviously bitterly controversial.

I'd put Andrade on a level similar to Sakio Bika, a tough tough fighter but not quite good enough to be a world champ. Froch would beat him, in my respectful opinion of course.

And you seriously underate Alan Green, he's going to be making a lot of noise over the next 18 months.

With 85% of his colon missing I bet he makes plenty of noise all the time

[CFH]

I disagree with almost everything you say (respectfully). Bute may not have the power his record indicates, but I'd wager he hits siginificantly harder than Jermaine Taylor, and Taylor had Froch hurt on numerous occasions.

As for the Kessler - Andrade fight, I recall Kessler's 1-2 being the story of that fight. Andrade ate a ton of straight right hands.

Andrade - Froch is close to a pick'em IMO, but I side with Andrade. And Andrade would absoluletly ruin Allan Green who's biggest claim to fame is beating up on mediocre fighters.

Nothing wrong with respectful disagreement. Bute won't be champion for long, if Froch gets to him he's being knocked out. Froch beats Andrade imo. Froch has just won a world title beating the undefeated Jean Pascal and then just ko'd one of the world's best middleweight fighters.

Andrade has yet to win a significant fight, he always comes up short, although the Bute loss was obviously bitterly controversial.

I'd put Andrade on a level similar to Sakio Bika, a tough tough fighter but not quite good enough to be a world champ. Froch would beat him, in my respectful opinion of course.

And you seriously underate Alan Green, he's going to be making a lot of noise over the next 18 months.

With 85% of his colon missing I bet he makes plenty of noise all the time

I was thinking of making the colon joke, but I figured you'd do a better job of it.