My take on Froch - Taylor...

[Drago]

I had froch down one round going into final round

froch is the man at 168, traveled across the pond & defended in taylors backyard!

if taylor fancies a rematch should be in england, but doubt taylor would want one

[ElTerribleMorales]

I had froch down one round going into final round

froch is the man at 168, traveled across the pond & defended in taylors backyard!

if taylor fancies a rematch should be in england, but doubt taylor would want one

don't know what fight you were watchinig, Froch didn't start getting remotely close to winning a round until at least the 8th, on my card he didn't win a round until the 9th, and honestly by then i was saying it over and over again Taylor looked gassed, i had Taylor winning the first 8 rnds plus the knockdown, so if Taylor would have made it out of the 12th round he still would have won 115-111

1-10-9 JT
2-10-9 JT
3-10-8 JT
4-10-9 JT
5-10-9 JT
6-10-9 JT
7-10-9 JT
8-10-9 JT
9-10-9 CF
10-10-9 CF
11-10-9 CF

107-102 JT at the point of the stoppage

[Kev]

I had froch down one round going into final round

froch is the man at 168, traveled across the pond & defended in taylors backyard!

if taylor fancies a rematch should be in england, but doubt taylor would want one

don't know what fight you were watchinig, Froch didn't start getting remotely close to winning a round until at least the 8th, on my card he didn't win a round until the 9th, and honestly by then i was saying it over and over again Taylor looked gassed, i had Taylor winning the first 8 rnds plus the knockdown, so if Taylor would have made it out of the 12th round he still would have won 115-111

1-10-9 JT
2-10-9 JT
3-10-8 JT
4-10-9 JT
5-10-9 JT
6-10-9 JT
7-10-9 JT
8-10-9 JT
9-10-9 CF
10-10-9 CF
11-10-9 CF

107-102 JT at the point of the stoppage

Well clearly Froch WAS doing some work in those early rounds otherwise Jermain would collapse in every fight at the end right?

Froch was clearly having an impact on Jermain starting with round 6 which is a couple rounds earlier than B Hop started to work in his first fight with Jermain.

From round 6 onwards Jermain was clearly affected and from round 8 it was mostly Carl Froch with the exception of a couple of explosive bursts from Taylor.

Taylor certainly sweeped the first 5 with a 10-8 round but I imagine Froch might have well have been nervous, huge step up in class, in hostile territory against one of the superstars of boxing.

He overcame the worst possible start and worked his way back into the fight before ending it clinically in the final round.

As they always say the true test of a champion is how they cope with adversity and Froch copes pretty well. Even the great Kessler wilted when he stepped up in class and fought Calzaghe on foreign soil and Calzaghe himself got floored by both Hopkins and Jones (despite their advanced years) when he went to the US and fought the two best opponents of his career.

[Rantcatrat]

Who will Froch fight next? That is the question.

[ElTerribleMorales]

I had froch down one round going into final round

froch is the man at 168, traveled across the pond & defended in taylors backyard!

if taylor fancies a rematch should be in england, but doubt taylor would want one

don't know what fight you were watchinig, Froch didn't start getting remotely close to winning a round until at least the 8th, on my card he didn't win a round until the 9th, and honestly by then i was saying it over and over again Taylor looked gassed, i had Taylor winning the first 8 rnds plus the knockdown, so if Taylor would have made it out of the 12th round he still would have won 115-111

1-10-9 JT
2-10-9 JT
3-10-8 JT
4-10-9 JT
5-10-9 JT
6-10-9 JT
7-10-9 JT
8-10-9 JT
9-10-9 CF
10-10-9 CF
11-10-9 CF

107-102 JT at the point of the stoppage

Well clearly Froch WAS doing some work in those early rounds otherwise Jermain would collapse in every fight at the end right?

Froch was clearly having an impact on Jermain starting with round 6 which is a couple rounds earlier than B Hop started to work in his first fight with Jermain.

From round 6 onwards Jermain was clearly affected and from round 8 it was mostly Carl Froch with the exception of a couple of explosive bursts from Taylor.

Taylor certainly sweeped the first 5 with a 10-8 round but I imagine Froch might have well have been nervous, huge step up in class, in hostile territory against one of the superstars of boxing.

He overcame the worst possible start and worked his way back into the fight before ending it clinically in the final round.

As they always say the true test of a champion is how they cope with adversity and Froch copes pretty well. Even the great Kessler wilted when he stepped up in class and fought Calzaghe on foreign soil and Calzaghe himself got floored by both Hopkins and Jones (despite their advanced years) when he went to the US and fought the two best opponents of his career.

Froch started to work a bit but Taylor was stealing the rounds honestly, i didn't see him win a round clearly till the around the 9th

[Kev]

don't know what fight you were watchinig, Froch didn't start getting remotely close to winning a round until at least the 8th, on my card he didn't win a round until the 9th, and honestly by then i was saying it over and over again Taylor looked gassed, i had Taylor winning the first 8 rnds plus the knockdown, so if Taylor would have made it out of the 12th round he still would have won 115-111

1-10-9 JT
2-10-9 JT
3-10-8 JT
4-10-9 JT
5-10-9 JT
6-10-9 JT
7-10-9 JT
8-10-9 JT
9-10-9 CF
10-10-9 CF
11-10-9 CF

107-102 JT at the point of the stoppage

Well clearly Froch WAS doing some work in those early rounds otherwise Jermain would collapse in every fight at the end right?

Froch was clearly having an impact on Jermain starting with round 6 which is a couple rounds earlier than B Hop started to work in his first fight with Jermain.

From round 6 onwards Jermain was clearly affected and from round 8 it was mostly Carl Froch with the exception of a couple of explosive bursts from Taylor.

Taylor certainly sweeped the first 5 with a 10-8 round but I imagine Froch might have well have been nervous, huge step up in class, in hostile territory against one of the superstars of boxing.

He overcame the worst possible start and worked his way back into the fight before ending it clinically in the final round.

As they always say the true test of a champion is how they cope with adversity and Froch copes pretty well. Even the great Kessler wilted when he stepped up in class and fought Calzaghe on foreign soil and Calzaghe himself got floored by both Hopkins and Jones (despite their advanced years) when he went to the US and fought the two best opponents of his career.

Froch started to work a bit but Taylor was stealing the rounds honestly, i didn't see him win a round clearly till the around the 9th

Well whether you think Jermain was winning the points its abundantly clear who was doing the better work of chopping down their man. Froch was clearly doing a lot in the earlier rounds as evidenced by the fact that Taylor fell apart in the last round.

How come he didn't do that against B Hop? Or against Pavlik in the second fight, or Winky?

The signs were there that he was getting to Taylor as early as round 6, go back and watch it again, already the commentators were worried.

As sensational as the last round was it almost had an air of inevitability about it, like Man Utd trailing by a goal in a must win game with 10 mins on the clock.

Froch is a star now, for me he's the man to beat at 168, nobody else at the weight has beaten a superstar and recent p4p fighter.

Kesslers only big wins are against an overmatched Beyer and an experienced Mundine, Bute's against Andrade (who hasn't beaten anyone), Bika (who hasnt beaten anyone) and Berrio (who hadnt beaten anyone of note apart from a suprise win over Steiglitz and who had been knocked out several times before).

Froch has the best name on his record of anyone at 168.

[ElTerribleMorales]

Well clearly Froch WAS doing some work in those early rounds otherwise Jermain would collapse in every fight at the end right?

Froch was clearly having an impact on Jermain starting with round 6 which is a couple rounds earlier than B Hop started to work in his first fight with Jermain.

From round 6 onwards Jermain was clearly affected and from round 8 it was mostly Carl Froch with the exception of a couple of explosive bursts from Taylor.

Taylor certainly sweeped the first 5 with a 10-8 round but I imagine Froch might have well have been nervous, huge step up in class, in hostile territory against one of the superstars of boxing.

He overcame the worst possible start and worked his way back into the fight before ending it clinically in the final round.

As they always say the true test of a champion is how they cope with adversity and Froch copes pretty well. Even the great Kessler wilted when he stepped up in class and fought Calzaghe on foreign soil and Calzaghe himself got floored by both Hopkins and Jones (despite their advanced years) when he went to the US and fought the two best opponents of his career.

Froch started to work a bit but Taylor was stealing the rounds honestly, i didn't see him win a round clearly till the around the 9th

Well whether you think Jermain was winning the points its abundantly clear who was doing the better work of chopping down their man. Froch was clearly doing a lot in the earlier rounds as evidenced by the fact that Taylor fell apart in the last round.

How come he didn't do that against B Hop? Or against Pavlik in the second fight, or Winky?

The signs were there that he was getting to Taylor as early as round 6, go back and watch it again, already the commentators were worried.

As sensational as the last round was it almost had an air of inevitability about it, like Man Utd trailing by a goal in a must win game with 10 mins on the clock.

Froch is a star now, for me he's the man to beat at 168, nobody else at the weight has beaten a superstar and recent p4p fighter.

Kesslers only big wins are against an overmatched Beyer and an experienced Mundine, Bute's against Andrade (who hasn't beaten anyone), Bika (who hasnt beaten anyone) and Berrio (who hadnt beaten anyone of note apart from a suprise win over Steiglitz and who had been knocked out several times before).

Froch has the best name on his record of anyone at 168.

can't deny Taylor's stamina issues though, seeing how they haven't only come into play in this fight

[Big Dick Whittington]

Think too many people have misconceptions and allow their views to be hindered .
I watched the fight with the sound off and Taylor was effective but Carl had plenty of success he wasnt scoring as often and was to busy trying to set his feet and getting caught by the faster fleet of foot Taylor .

People go on like Taylor was a stumbling wreck , give the guy his credit he fought his fooking heart out didnt just fall apart like most suggest !
It was a tough fight .

[HattonTheHammer]

I had froch down one round going into final round

froch is the man at 168, traveled across the pond & defended in taylors backyard!

if taylor fancies a rematch should be in england, but doubt taylor would want one

don't know what fight you were watchinig, Froch didn't start getting remotely close to winning a round until at least the 8th, on my card he didn't win a round until the 9th, and honestly by then i was saying it over and over again Taylor looked gassed, i had Taylor winning the first 8 rnds plus the knockdown, so if Taylor would have made it out of the 12th round he still would have won 115-111

1-10-9 JT
2-10-9 JT
3-10-8 JT
4-10-9 JT
5-10-9 JT
6-10-9 JT
7-10-9 JT
8-10-9 JT
9-10-9 CF
10-10-9 CF
11-10-9 CF

107-102 JT at the point of the stoppage

thats one hell of a dodgy scorecard if you ask me.

How the hell you managed to give the entire 2/3rds of the fight to taylor is completely beyond me.

through 8 i had froch winning at least 4 of the rounds and only behind on the fact taylor had a 10-8 in the bag.

[ElTerribleMorales]

I had froch down one round going into final round

froch is the man at 168, traveled across the pond & defended in taylors backyard!

if taylor fancies a rematch should be in england, but doubt taylor would want one

don't know what fight you were watchinig, Froch didn't start getting remotely close to winning a round until at least the 8th, on my card he didn't win a round until the 9th, and honestly by then i was saying it over and over again Taylor looked gassed, i had Taylor winning the first 8 rnds plus the knockdown, so if Taylor would have made it out of the 12th round he still would have won 115-111

1-10-9 JT
2-10-9 JT
3-10-8 JT
4-10-9 JT
5-10-9 JT
6-10-9 JT
7-10-9 JT
8-10-9 JT
9-10-9 CF
10-10-9 CF
11-10-9 CF

107-102 JT at the point of the stoppage

thats one hell of a dodgy scorecard if you ask me.

How the hell you managed to give the entire 2/3rds of the fight to taylor is completely beyond me.

through 8 i had froch winning at least 4 of the rounds and only behind on the fact taylor had a 10-8 in the bag.

dodgy how? Taylor dominated up to the 6th, 7th and 8th rounds Froch would start the action early and Taylor would come back in the second half of the round to once again pound Froch down, and dominate the second half of the round, Froch clearly won every round from the 9th on, so if Taylor WOULD HAVE made it out of the final round he would have won on my cards with a score of 8 rounds to 4, each with a KD

[BIG H]

don't know what fight you were watchinig, Froch didn't start getting remotely close to winning a round until at least the 8th, on my card he didn't win a round until the 9th, and honestly by then i was saying it over and over again Taylor looked gassed, i had Taylor winning the first 8 rnds plus the knockdown, so if Taylor would have made it out of the 12th round he still would have won 115-111

1-10-9 JT
2-10-9 JT
3-10-8 JT
4-10-9 JT
5-10-9 JT
6-10-9 JT
7-10-9 JT
8-10-9 JT
9-10-9 CF
10-10-9 CF
11-10-9 CF

107-102 JT at the point of the stoppage

thats one hell of a dodgy scorecard if you ask me.

How the hell you managed to give the entire 2/3rds of the fight to taylor is completely beyond me.

through 8 i had froch winning at least 4 of the rounds and only behind on the fact taylor had a 10-8 in the bag.

dodgy how? Taylor dominated up to the 6th, 7th and 8th rounds Froch would start the action early and Taylor would come back in the second half of the round to once again pound Froch down, and dominate the second half of the round, Froch clearly won every round from the 9th on, so if Taylor WOULD HAVE made it out of the final round he would have won on my cards with a score of 8 rounds to 4, each with a KD

Froch would've had a 10-7 round 12, if Taylor had've made the end, which would've at least given him a draw imo.

[ElTerribleMorales]

thats one hell of a dodgy scorecard if you ask me.

How the hell you managed to give the entire 2/3rds of the fight to taylor is completely beyond me.

through 8 i had froch winning at least 4 of the rounds and only behind on the fact taylor had a 10-8 in the bag.

dodgy how? Taylor dominated up to the 6th, 7th and 8th rounds Froch would start the action early and Taylor would come back in the second half of the round to once again pound Froch down, and dominate the second half of the round, Froch clearly won every round from the 9th on, so if Taylor WOULD HAVE made it out of the final round he would have won on my cards with a score of 8 rounds to 4, each with a KD

Froch would've had a 10-7 round 12, if Taylor had've made the end, which would've at least given him a draw imo.

true about the 10-7 round but still on my card Taylor would have won 114-112, close enough and not out of the question if you ask me

[HattonTheHammer]

dodgy how? Taylor dominated up to the 6th, 7th and 8th rounds Froch would start the action early and Taylor would come back in the second half of the round to once again pound Froch down, and dominate the second half of the round, Froch clearly won every round from the 9th on, so if Taylor WOULD HAVE made it out of the final round he would have won on my cards with a score of 8 rounds to 4, each with a KD

Froch would've had a 10-7 round 12, if Taylor had've made the end, which would've at least given him a draw imo.

true about the 10-7 round but still on my card Taylor would have won 114-112, close enough and not out of the question if you ask me

I suppose if youve never seen guys like froch/calzaghe fight you can be misleaded into thinking that they lose rounds because they dont neccesarily throw the heaviest punches.

But for much of the fight and even rounds that carl lost he was the one on the front foot as opposed to taylor who was fighting in spurts.

There was at least 2/3 rounds that you either would of had to score from frochs all round dominance or taylors power punching....its tough to call