Taylor surprised the life out of me .

[Gandalf]

Last round. Froch went for it because he had to and it paid off. Taylor should have boxed smarter but there you go.

Shades of Mosley/Mayorga. I'm sure the fact that the guy who was ahead on points gets stopped in the last round will draw comparisons.

Yep, good comparison that. Mayorga was boxing really well in that, Mosley was well out of sorts.

Taylor has it in him to outbox most guys at SMW IMO, except for Kessler who I think is better than everyone else. He always falters down the stretch though. But it's credit to Froch that he really went for it in a way that someone like Hopkins never would. Really left no room for doubts about who won the fight.

It was my second proper look at Froch and he certainly knows how to make a fight watchable! I see a lot of things wrong with him, but he keeps finding a way to win. He can't always rely on heart and chin, so he should keep finding ways to improve.

He keeps calling out Calzaghe but a decent Calzaghe would just outpoint him to death. No way ready for that.

[leftylee]

Taylor didn't surprise me at all. Froch is garbage. I had him winning 2 rounds out the 11. His defense is so poor, its unbelievable. Taylor looked different class at times. Let's remember he's a middleweight as well. Yet hurt and outboxed Froch throughout until the 12th. I give Froch credit for the last round and the heart shown but nothing else. He gets in with Kessler, Hopkins etc and they will brutally take him to school.

[Rantcatrat]

Taylor didn't surprise me at all. Froch is garbage. I had him winning 2 rounds out the 11. His defense is so poor, its unbelievable. Taylor looked different class at times. Let's remember he's a middleweight as well. Yet hurt and outboxed Froch throughout until the 12th. I give Froch credit for the last round and the heart shown but nothing else. He gets in with Kessler, Hopkins etc and they will brutally take him to school.

Taylor won championship belts at middlweight, but he is a super-middleweight now. He himself said he feels better at that weight. He was weight drained for Pavlik I and he has fought at 168 ever since.

[HattonTheHammer]

The fight was always going to be a complete pick`em

I was confident all along that froch would have too much for taylor but typical froch always has to chase a fight as he starts sooooo slowly.

Anyone who hasnt seen froch without his career would of been completely disheartened when he was 2nd to every punch early on and even i was a tad worried when he got knocked down as it was a genuine KD.

But froch was always going to be too clever a boxer for taylor and the 106-102 from the 2 judges was complete bullshit as i had it dead level going into the last.


Will froch get any credit for an awesome performance on here No, mainly because of the fact he`s another brit whos gone over to america and once again shown their man how to fight, but lets not get ahead of ourselves here other than the last round this was indeed a pick`em contest!

[leftylee]

Last round. Froch went for it because he had to and it paid off. Taylor should have boxed smarter but there you go.

Shades of Mosley/Mayorga. I'm sure the fact that the guy who was ahead on points gets stopped in the last round will draw comparisons.

Yep, good comparison that. Mayorga was boxing really well in that, Mosley was well out of sorts.

Taylor has it in him to outbox most guys at SMW IMO, except for Kessler who I think is better than everyone else. He always falters down the stretch though. But it's credit to Froch that he really went for it in a way that someone like Hopkins never would. Really left no room for doubts about who won the fight.

It was my second proper look at Froch and he certainly knows how to make a fight watchable! I see a lot of things wrong with him, but he keeps finding a way to win. He can't always rely on heart and chin, so he should keep finding ways to improve.

He keeps calling out Calzaghe but a decent Calzaghe would just outpoint him to death. No way ready for that.

Its okay saying that but lets remember the 2 notable names he has beat. Jean Pascal and Jermain Taylor. Pascal is a heartless fringe contender, Taylor doesn't even look like he's interested in there at times and has bad stamina issues.

Froch starts fighting top level fighters and he'll get beaten, comfortably.

[Rantcatrat]

Last round. Froch went for it because he had to and it paid off. Taylor should have boxed smarter but there you go.

Shades of Mosley/Mayorga. I'm sure the fact that the guy who was ahead on points gets stopped in the last round will draw comparisons.

Yep, good comparison that. Mayorga was boxing really well in that, Mosley was well out of sorts.

Taylor has it in him to outbox most guys at SMW IMO, except for Kessler who I think is better than everyone else. He always falters down the stretch though. But it's credit to Froch that he really went for it in a way that someone like Hopkins never would. Really left no room for doubts about who won the fight.

It was my second proper look at Froch and he certainly knows how to make a fight watchable! I see a lot of things wrong with him, but he keeps finding a way to win. He can't always rely on heart and chin, so he should keep finding ways to improve.

He keeps calling out Calzaghe but a decent Calzaghe would just outpoint him to death. No way ready for that.

Its okay saying that but lets remember the 2 notable names he has beat. Jean Pascal and Jermain Taylor. Pascal is a heartless fringe contender, Taylor doesn't even look like he's interested in there at times and has bad stamina issues.

Froch starts fighting top level fighters and he'll get beaten, comfortably.

Part of what makes a boxer great is that innate fighting instinct. That instinct was reflected in Froch's toughness and determination. Going into the fight, Taylor was the better athlete than Froch and the better boxer, but his performance in the fight showed he lacked Froch's fighting spirit. Froch's strength is his heart.

To call Pascal a heartless fringe contender is unfair. Pascal is now taking on Diaconu at 175. There is nothing heartless about that. Having wins over Pascal and Taylor is impressive because both are relatively quick and Froch is relatively slow. Those two fights compare favorably to the fights that the rest of the elite in the division have taken.

Froch has the heart of a Lion. No doubt.

[Fenster]

Yep, good comparison that. Mayorga was boxing really well in that, Mosley was well out of sorts.

Taylor has it in him to outbox most guys at SMW IMO, except for Kessler who I think is better than everyone else. He always falters down the stretch though. But it's credit to Froch that he really went for it in a way that someone like Hopkins never would. Really left no room for doubts about who won the fight.

It was my second proper look at Froch and he certainly knows how to make a fight watchable! I see a lot of things wrong with him, but he keeps finding a way to win. He can't always rely on heart and chin, so he should keep finding ways to improve.

He keeps calling out Calzaghe but a decent Calzaghe would just outpoint him to death. No way ready for that.

Its okay saying that but lets remember the 2 notable names he has beat. Jean Pascal and Jermain Taylor. Pascal is a heartless fringe contender, Taylor doesn't even look like he's interested in there at times and has bad stamina issues.

Froch starts fighting top level fighters and he'll get beaten, comfortably.

Part of what makes a boxer great is that innate fighting instinct. That instinct was reflected in Froch's toughness and determination. Going into the fight, Taylor was the better athlete than Froch and the better boxer, but his performance in the fight showed he lacked Froch's fighting spirit. Froch's strength is his heart.

To call Pascal a heartless fringe contender is unfair. Pascal is now taking on Diaconu at 175. There is nothing heartless about that. Having wins over Pascal and Taylor is impressive because both are relatively quick and Froch is relatively slow. Those two fights compare favorably to the fights that the rest of the elite in the division have taken.

Froch has the heart of a Lion. No doubt.

Good post.

To call Froch "garbage" is a disgraceful insult to boxing. What he lacks in talent he makes up for in toughness and bottle. Something you can't learn or practise.

[clintuk]

I think Froch fans are being accused a little bit of saying he gave Taylor a boxing lesson, no one here is saying Froch is the prettiest of boxers but the whole point of boxing is that different styles will always emerge and thats what makes it so interesting.

Froch gave Taylor a lesson in determination and heart, and as has been said before, you can't learn that, you've either got it or you haven't.

[ElTerribleMorales]

Taylor was EASILY outboxing Froch, Froch is one tough son of a bitch and due to his toughness and determination stayed in the fight and managed to comeback and take Taylor out, that said, it's obvious though that Taylor isn't the most dedicated fighter by his lack of conditioning, i think Froch is being exagerated a bit, by being called the man at 168, i'd say he's in the top 5 but to say he's better than Kessler is a bit ridiculous at this point, IMO if Taylor really is dedicated he should be given a well deserved rematch, if Froch wins again well he should go on to take on Bute (i think it's the closest fight for Froch), or actually more so the winner of the Bute/Andrade rematch, seeing how Andrade should get his rematch as well, Froch Vs Andrade would be a great fight honestly

[HattonTheHammer]

Taylor was EASILY outboxing Froch, Froch is one tough son of a bitch and due to his toughness and determination stayed in the fight and managed to comeback and take Taylor out, that said, it's obvious though that Taylor isn't the most dedicated fighter by his lack of conditioning, i think Froch is being exagerated a bit, by being called the man at 168, i'd say he's in the top 5 but to say he's better than Kessler is a bit ridiculous at this point, IMO if Taylor really is dedicated he should be given a well deserved rematch, if Froch wins again well he should go on to take on Bute (i think it's the closest fight for Froch), or actually more so the winner of the Bute/Andrade rematch, seeing how Andrade should get his rematch as well, Froch Vs Andrade would be a great fight honestly

No he wasnt

He was throwing the heavier punches and looked more likely to get the KO up until 11 but he certainly wasnt outboxing froch, that suggests he completely dominated the tactical exchanges and he soooo didnt!!

[leftylee]

Its okay saying that but lets remember the 2 notable names he has beat. Jean Pascal and Jermain Taylor. Pascal is a heartless fringe contender, Taylor doesn't even look like he's interested in there at times and has bad stamina issues.

Froch starts fighting top level fighters and he'll get beaten, comfortably.

Part of what makes a boxer great is that innate fighting instinct. That instinct was reflected in Froch's toughness and determination. Going into the fight, Taylor was the better athlete than Froch and the better boxer, but his performance in the fight showed he lacked Froch's fighting spirit. Froch's strength is his heart.

To call Pascal a heartless fringe contender is unfair. Pascal is now taking on Diaconu at 175. There is nothing heartless about that. Having wins over Pascal and Taylor is impressive because both are relatively quick and Froch is relatively slow. Those two fights compare favorably to the fights that the rest of the elite in the division have taken.

Froch has the heart of a Lion. No doubt.

Good post.

To call Froch "garbage" is a disgraceful insult to boxing. What he lacks in talent he makes up for in toughness and bottle. Something you can't learn or practise.

How is it ? Look at that defence of his. He faces somebody that can last a full 12 rounds and is half decent, he will get punished.

[Fenster]

Part of what makes a boxer great is that innate fighting instinct. That instinct was reflected in Froch's toughness and determination. Going into the fight, Taylor was the better athlete than Froch and the better boxer, but his performance in the fight showed he lacked Froch's fighting spirit. Froch's strength is his heart.

To call Pascal a heartless fringe contender is unfair. Pascal is now taking on Diaconu at 175. There is nothing heartless about that. Having wins over Pascal and Taylor is impressive because both are relatively quick and Froch is relatively slow. Those two fights compare favorably to the fights that the rest of the elite in the division have taken.

Froch has the heart of a Lion. No doubt.

Good post.

To call Froch "garbage" is a disgraceful insult to boxing. What he lacks in talent he makes up for in toughness and bottle. Something you can't learn or practise.

How is it ? Look at that defence of his. He faces somebody that can last a full 12 rounds and is half decent, he will get punished.

His crap defence hasn't stopped him winning.

Taylor is "half decent", no?

He lasted 12 rounds with Hopkins (twice), Pavlik, Winky, Spinks, Ouma, Lacy, Joppy and beat everyone else in under 12 rounds.

If Froch is garbage, yet was able to KO Taylor fair-and-square in his backyard, what does that make Taylor and all the fighters he has beaten?

[leftylee]

Good post.

To call Froch "garbage" is a disgraceful insult to boxing. What he lacks in talent he makes up for in toughness and bottle. Something you can't learn or practise.

How is it ? Look at that defence of his. He faces somebody that can last a full 12 rounds and is half decent, he will get punished.

His crap defence hasn't stopped him winning.

Taylor is "half decent", no?

He lasted 12 rounds with Hopkins (twice), Pavlik, Winky, Spinks, Ouma, Lacy, Joppy and beat everyone else in under 12 rounds.

If Froch is garbage, yet was able to KO Taylor fair-and-square in his backyard, what does that make Taylor and all the fighters he has beaten?

How did he KO him fair and square ? He got took to school for 11 rounds and was on the brink of defeat before Taylor gassed in the last round. Taylor lost the fight. And yeah Taylor has had stamina issues for a while. Ask anybody on this site. On paper he may have lasted 12 rounds with those guys but you watch the fights and he has looked pretty bad in them bar Hopkins. The Ouma fight was a classic example. Taylor's heart just doesn't belong in the sport.

[ross]

His crap defence hasn't stopped him winning.

Taylor is "half decent", no?

He lasted 12 rounds with Hopkins (twice), Pavlik, Winky, Spinks, Ouma, Lacy, Joppy and beat everyone else in under 12 rounds.

If Froch is garbage, yet was able to KO Taylor fair-and-square in his backyard, what does that make Taylor and all the fighters he has beaten?

HOW MANY MORE TIMES FOR FUUCKS SAKES!!

He has got away with being poor by not meeting any top supermiddles yet!

Taylor is a faded middle, he tried his luck at a heavier weight, he weighed in 2lbs under the limit, hes not a supermiddle.

Little fighters like Spinks did better with Taylor

All Froch had over Taylor here is a strength advantage, I said it before the fight that Taylor is not strong enough at this weight, he might last in to the 12th and drop, hurt and outpoint Froch but put him in with a decent supermiddle and see what happens

[leftylee]

Yep, good comparison that. Mayorga was boxing really well in that, Mosley was well out of sorts.

Taylor has it in him to outbox most guys at SMW IMO, except for Kessler who I think is better than everyone else. He always falters down the stretch though. But it's credit to Froch that he really went for it in a way that someone like Hopkins never would. Really left no room for doubts about who won the fight.

It was my second proper look at Froch and he certainly knows how to make a fight watchable! I see a lot of things wrong with him, but he keeps finding a way to win. He can't always rely on heart and chin, so he should keep finding ways to improve.

He keeps calling out Calzaghe but a decent Calzaghe would just outpoint him to death. No way ready for that.

Its okay saying that but lets remember the 2 notable names he has beat. Jean Pascal and Jermain Taylor. Pascal is a heartless fringe contender, Taylor doesn't even look like he's interested in there at times and has bad stamina issues.

Froch starts fighting top level fighters and he'll get beaten, comfortably.

Part of what makes a boxer great is that innate fighting instinct. That instinct was reflected in Froch's toughness and determination. Going into the fight, Taylor was the better athlete than Froch and the better boxer, but his performance in the fight showed he lacked Froch's fighting spirit. Froch's strength is his heart.

To call Pascal a heartless fringe contender is unfair. Pascal is now taking on Diaconu at 175. There is nothing heartless about that. Having wins over Pascal and Taylor is impressive because both are relatively quick and Froch is relatively slow. Those two fights compare favorably to the fights that the rest of the elite in the division have taken.

Froch has the heart of a Lion. No doubt.

Pascal is heartless. Why you think the fight with Miranda never took off ? He seen him KO Banks ringside and didn't want any part.