Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Cory Spinks on the horizon...

[Galaxy]

Hearns was 1st, Leonard was 2nd

Toney anyone?

[Kev]

Hearns was 1st, Leonard was 2nd

Toney anyone?

Hearns was massive he wasn't fighting bigger men even at cruiserweight.

Leonard won titles in 4 weight divisions, his light heavyweight title was super middleweight limit.

Toney has won titles from middleweight to cruiser weight a climb of 4 weight divisions.


Plus you are merely higlighting my point. All of these examples are the greatest fighters of modern times and none of them started out as featherweights.

The higher the weight class a fighter starts out at the less important the weight.

But it would take a phenomenal fighter to move up from featherweight to junior middleweight, to my knowledge its never been done before.

Please correct me if I'm wrong here, Brit Kid will know what featherweight in the modern era has moved up and won a world title at junior middleweight?

[Galaxy]

Bilbo you the one who brought up weight classes not me, so don't put words in my mouth... I said little guys beating bigger men & all the examples are of exactly that & they are all within range of what Marquez/ Spinks would be at this point. No point going on about Marquez being a feather because he is now an established lightweight, just like Pacquiao or DLH are not considered 112 or 130 pound fighters now.

Marquez is a lightweight now & imo conformable at the weight, Spinks fought most of his early career at 147 but is now comfortable at 154. Those are the facts!

I don't want this fight to happen, never said I did & if it did happen it would probably be a catch weight. From the beginning I've said that Marquez is a tougher fight than Spinks & I'll stand by that! A Mayweather fight would occur at most 147 I'd say, but it is entirely feasible that Marquez could put on a little weight come in around the 144-147 mark & ko Spinks whose chin is questionable.

[Kev]

Bilbo you the one who brought up weight classes not me, so don't put words in my mouth... I said little guys beating bigger men & all the examples are of exactly that & they are all within range of what Marquez/ Spinks would be at this point. No point going on about Marquez being a feather because he is now an established lightweight, just like Pacquiao or DLH are not considered 112 or 130 pound fighters now.

Marquez is a lightweight now & imo conformable at the weight, Spinks fought most of his early career at 147 but is now comfortable at 154. Those are the facts!

I don't want this fight to happen, never said I did & if it did happen it would probably be a catch weight. From the beginning I've said that Marquez is a tougher fight than Spinks & I'll stand by that! A Mayweather fight would occur at most 147 I'd say, but it is entirely feasible that Marquez could put on a little weight come in around the 144-147 mark & ko Spinks whose chin is questionable.

Ok we will have to agree to disagree on this.

In my opinion at 154 lbs this is an easy nights work for Cory, Marquez might even get knocked out. It's the equivalent of Shane Mosely moving up to fight Carl Froch or Lucian Bute. Whilst I think he's a far more acomplished boxer than both of them the sheer size difference would mean he could not beat these strong super middleweights, remember Winky Wright just dropped his hands and let him hit him flush in their fight to demonstrate how his punches couldn't hurt him.

Marquez just would not have the power to hurt Cory. P4P right now he'd obliterate him but in a real fight at 154 he couldnt hurt him any more than big junior middles like Mayorga and Roman Karmazin. Zab Judah was awesome in his prime too. All three of these guys can bang. I won't mention Jermain Taylor as he never hit Cory.

I'm sure even CutMeMick would agree with me on this. It has nothing to do with who is better its just a 3 division leap fighting a fighter in his natural weight class.

Manny was able to do it because Oscar came down and weighed in on the night around 20 lbs lighter than for his previous fights.

Imagine draining your body to weigh 20 lbs less than it does now and then fighting. I guarantee you'd feel fucked! For me that would be dropping down to 8 and a half stone. I weighed that much during my cancer treatment and literally the wind could have bowled me over

[Gandalf]

I'm late on the train....but Mayweather against Spinks.....