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Re: Where will you put Pac in the All-Time Greats?
What, if he beat even Floyd Mayweather there's no chance he'd be the best ever? Even CutMeMick thinks he'd have a case.Originally Posted by CFH
You're utterly delusional if you believe that. He's an ATG without a doubt, but there is no chance he's the best fighter ever if he beats Mayweather.Let's remember he was loosing to Agapito in their fight and and was down at least 3 points. It was a very dirty fight and Agapito was as dirty as they came if not for the point 2 deductions Pac would have lost this fight.
I beg to disagree on the losing part. Had the fight been continued, Sanchez would have been TKoed, IMO. Watch the last part when Pac was giving Sanchez all those powershots.
Regarding Marquez, I hate to say this but during Pac vs JMM 2, Marquez was saved by the bell during the 3rd round. Had the KO happened 2 minutes before the bell, he would have been a goner like Morales in the Pac vs Morales 3.
Honestly, I can sense that Pac would TKO Marquez next time they fight. Marquez has never downed Pac but Pac has downed marquez so many times already.
Hope Marquez wins over Floyd so we can see Pac vs JMM3. Regardless of the result of this dream fight, Pac is ATG top5 for me in terms of oppositions.
Just imagine, from 106 lbs to 147, still carrying with him his power and speed. Hatton lasted only 2 rounds, my theory about DLH is then confirmed.What Pac had done to DLH is something not everyone can do.Not even Mayweather.
Pac is a class of his own. An ATG top 5 (probably top 1, if he defeats PBF) in our lifetime and I'm proud to have witnessed his fights.
Seriously how would Ray Robinson or Ali, Armstrong and Pep achieved more than a flyweight from Asia who rose from absolute poverty to conquer 7 weight classes beating a whose who of hall of fame fighters and then went up to welter weight and defeated the greatest fighter of his generation, the undefeated 6 weight world champ Floyd Mayweather?
That would be a rise of 10 (TEN) weight divisions from where he started.
Now I don't think Ali, Robinson, Armstrong, Pep, Leonard, Duran hell ANYONE could claim such a feat.
Ali proved himself to be the best heavyweight of his generation, but he had losses along the way, even in his prime.
Robinson seemed to be untouchable at welterweight but lost his title 5 times at middleweight so was clearly not unbeatable.
Armstrong held 3 world titles at 3 weight classes simultaneously, Pacman would have won 4 in succession (if we count Floyd as the true champ at welter which I think most would agree he is)
Now, I'm really not convinved that Pacquaio can beat Floyd Mayweather, but IF he did he would without a shadow of doubt jump to being in the top 3, eclipsing Armstrong and Pep and imo it would only be nostaliga stopping him from topping Ali.
He's gone through 10 weight classes Josh, 10 that is unbelievable.
Ray Robinson failed in his attempt to go from middlweight to light heavy, Manny has gone from minimum weight where started at 106 to if he beat Floyd, ruling the 147 lb 10 weight classes higher.
Nobody else would have achieved anything like that.
However, I don't think he will beat Floyd, but if he did it would be incredible.
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