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    Default Re: If HBO shows such a lack of class again...

    Quote Originally Posted by LEGION View Post
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    I don't think money meant much to the family when they weren't sure if their guy was ever going to be the same. That's a sensitive moment, you could see his fiance was literally shaking it was no good.

    As for the money, I really don't think Cotto's kids cared about the money their daddy earned when they were shown crying on TV by HBO. That is crossing the line don't you think? And I'm not one to get to riled up over these things either.

    It's life mate, what about all the aid campaigns we watch with crying African children or people mourning their lost ones in a natural disaster. The camera doesn't turn away from them instead it focuses on them, the only difference here is that the people involved are mega rich superstars who put themselves and their families in the limelight to make a fortune and then can't complain when they get filmed when things go wrong.

    By the way, have any fighters actually complained about this? Personally I think not showing their reactions would be censorship, seeing the worry and concern on his loved one's faces only serves to reinforce what a brutal sport boxing is.



    I agree; it's life. It is tasteless but so is life in general. Don't like it turn it off. I paid 50$ for a fight and got what looked like a skit from Benny Hill. Ricky said himself that he and Manny were knockout fighters and someone was going to get knocked out......well someone got ktfo and seeing as how it is a brutal sport and people's sensibilities at the time aren't very sensible, than be prepared for the gory extras.

    I personally liked seeing Ricky being followed out; I wanted to see if he was walking normal. Better than seeing a stretcher hauling him out. I would have rather seen the camera pointed in the audience than watching Ricky gasping for breath and looking like a fish. If the family didn't want to be seen crying they should have put those Ricky masks on

    Now the child thing isn't cool; like what happened with Cotto. But maybe the children shouldn't be there. I am glad Ricky doesn't let his son go to his fights. Kid would have been shaken for life watching that

    It is tasteless no doubt; but when you are in the limelight and getting paid that kind of $$$ expect tasteless to follow you around. Since when has $$$ and tactfulness been a couple? I hope when Larry Merchant has a stroke at one of these they film the whole thing live
    I don't even find it tasteless, it's just an accurate and complete potryal of the event. If the cameras turn away from looking into the crowd its censorship in my view.

    If it would have been Manny knocked out would you object to Hattons family being filmed cheering?

    Boxing is a brutal sport, as is life in general. The camera's like Hatton's family were at a PUBLIC event, therefore the camera cans pan where they want.

    If they tried to record Ricky or his family in the dressing room against their wishes, then that is something else, but at a public event, especially one where both fighters and by association familes are benefitting by the way of several million pounds then they cannot object (and to my knowledge havn't) to being captured on film in that public event.

    I even think the same regarding Cotto's children. The Margarito Cotto fight again was a PUBLIC event where the cameras have every right to film that public event and present as complete a picture of the event as possible.

    Again they should not be filmed weeping in the dressing room, that's not public but the arena was completely public and therefore anything that happens in that arena is by definition public and ok for filming.

    If you don't want to be pictured grieving at a public massively televised event then don't go.

    Sorry for the repetitive emphasis of the same points over and over and the use of capital letters, I annoy myself too when I do that, but as you cannot see when I point and wag my fingers I need to do something to convey the importance I feel should be attached to my words

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    Default Re: If HBO shows such a lack of class again...

    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
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    It's life mate, what about all the aid campaigns we watch with crying African children or people mourning their lost ones in a natural disaster. The camera doesn't turn away from them instead it focuses on them, the only difference here is that the people involved are mega rich superstars who put themselves and their families in the limelight to make a fortune and then can't complain when they get filmed when things go wrong.

    By the way, have any fighters actually complained about this? Personally I think not showing their reactions would be censorship, seeing the worry and concern on his loved one's faces only serves to reinforce what a brutal sport boxing is.



    I agree; it's life. It is tasteless but so is life in general. Don't like it turn it off. I paid 50$ for a fight and got what looked like a skit from Benny Hill. Ricky said himself that he and Manny were knockout fighters and someone was going to get knocked out......well someone got ktfo and seeing as how it is a brutal sport and people's sensibilities at the time aren't very sensible, than be prepared for the gory extras.

    I personally liked seeing Ricky being followed out; I wanted to see if he was walking normal. Better than seeing a stretcher hauling him out. I would have rather seen the camera pointed in the audience than watching Ricky gasping for breath and looking like a fish. If the family didn't want to be seen crying they should have put those Ricky masks on

    Now the child thing isn't cool; like what happened with Cotto. But maybe the children shouldn't be there. I am glad Ricky doesn't let his son go to his fights. Kid would have been shaken for life watching that

    It is tasteless no doubt; but when you are in the limelight and getting paid that kind of $$$ expect tasteless to follow you around. Since when has $$$ and tactfulness been a couple? I hope when Larry Merchant has a stroke at one of these they film the whole thing live
    I don't even find it tasteless, it's just an accurate and complete potryal of the event. If the cameras turn away from looking into the crowd its censorship in my view.

    If it would have been Manny knocked out would you object to Hattons family being filmed cheering?

    Boxing is a brutal sport, as is life in general. The camera's like Hatton's family were at a PUBLIC event, therefore the camera cans pan where they want.

    If they tried to record Ricky or his family in the dressing room against their wishes, then that is something else, but at a public event, especially one where both fighters and by association familes are benefitting by the way of several million pounds then they cannot object (and to my knowledge havn't) to being captured on film in that public event.

    I even think the same regarding Cotto's children. The Margarito Cotto fight again was a PUBLIC event where the cameras have every right to film that public event and present as complete a picture of the event as possible.

    Again they should not be filmed weeping in the dressing room, that's not public but the arena was completely public and therefore anything that happens in that arena is by definition public and ok for filming.

    If you don't want to be pictured grieving at a public massively televised event then don't go.

    Sorry for the repetitive emphasis of the same points over and over and the use of capital letters, I annoy myself too when I do that, but as you cannot see when I point and wag my fingers I need to do something to convey the importance I feel should be attached to my words



    No problem Bilbore; I think everyone is used to it. Good points for sure.

    I mean when you were fighting to breathe and pushing your little oxygen tank around the UK with tubes trailing behind you it would have been perfectly legal to film you in your misery; tasteless but expected. Now had they followed you into your hobbit hole, knowing you were too weak to put up a fight, to film your excessive snivelling and vomit marathons that sir would have crossed the legal line. I'm with you little buddy
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    Default Re: If HBO shows such a lack of class again...

    Quote Originally Posted by LEGION View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
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    I agree; it's life. It is tasteless but so is life in general. Don't like it turn it off. I paid 50$ for a fight and got what looked like a skit from Benny Hill. Ricky said himself that he and Manny were knockout fighters and someone was going to get knocked out......well someone got ktfo and seeing as how it is a brutal sport and people's sensibilities at the time aren't very sensible, than be prepared for the gory extras.

    I personally liked seeing Ricky being followed out; I wanted to see if he was walking normal. Better than seeing a stretcher hauling him out. I would have rather seen the camera pointed in the audience than watching Ricky gasping for breath and looking like a fish. If the family didn't want to be seen crying they should have put those Ricky masks on

    Now the child thing isn't cool; like what happened with Cotto. But maybe the children shouldn't be there. I am glad Ricky doesn't let his son go to his fights. Kid would have been shaken for life watching that

    It is tasteless no doubt; but when you are in the limelight and getting paid that kind of $$$ expect tasteless to follow you around. Since when has $$$ and tactfulness been a couple? I hope when Larry Merchant has a stroke at one of these they film the whole thing live
    I don't even find it tasteless, it's just an accurate and complete potryal of the event. If the cameras turn away from looking into the crowd its censorship in my view.

    If it would have been Manny knocked out would you object to Hattons family being filmed cheering?

    Boxing is a brutal sport, as is life in general. The camera's like Hatton's family were at a PUBLIC event, therefore the camera cans pan where they want.

    If they tried to record Ricky or his family in the dressing room against their wishes, then that is something else, but at a public event, especially one where both fighters and by association familes are benefitting by the way of several million pounds then they cannot object (and to my knowledge havn't) to being captured on film in that public event.

    I even think the same regarding Cotto's children. The Margarito Cotto fight again was a PUBLIC event where the cameras have every right to film that public event and present as complete a picture of the event as possible.

    Again they should not be filmed weeping in the dressing room, that's not public but the arena was completely public and therefore anything that happens in that arena is by definition public and ok for filming.

    If you don't want to be pictured grieving at a public massively televised event then don't go.

    Sorry for the repetitive emphasis of the same points over and over and the use of capital letters, I annoy myself too when I do that, but as you cannot see when I point and wag my fingers I need to do something to convey the importance I feel should be attached to my words



    No problem Bilbore; I think everyone is used to it. Good points for sure.

    I mean when you were fighting to breathe and pushing your little oxygen tank around the UK with tubes trailing behind you it would have been perfectly legal to film you in your misery; tasteless but expected. Now had they followed you into your hobbit hole, knowing you were too weak to put up a fight, to film your excessive snivelling and vomit marathons that sir would have crossed the legal line. I'm with you little buddy
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    Default Re: If HBO shows such a lack of class again...

    Well at least they didn't chant

    "THERE'S ONLY ONE........GUY WHO GOT KNOCKED THE FUCK OUT!"

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    Default Re: If HBO shows such a lack of class again...

    Sports is about greatness of victory and sadly at times agony of defeat. Life has it's up's and downs. If you don't mind dressin up in your fancy gigs and having the camera on you during the good times then be prepared to have people curious to your reaction during the bad. These guys and thier families get paid tons of dough and are catered to pretty well and it's not like they are playing pro dodge ball and dragged into this sport by gun point. I'm sure by the time they get to the atm especially since it wasn't them taking the ass whoopin they'll be ok.
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    Default Re: If HBO shows such a lack of class again...

    I don't think it's tasteless to show either the fam. or Ricky walking away.
    After all it's part of the sport you win some you lose some.

    Not only HBO but almost any network shows loved ones ringside before, after and during fights. The list is endless and it wont be the last it's part of the show. (For HBO)

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    Default Re: If HBO shows such a lack of class again...

    I agree with Bilbo, they have a right to film whatever they want at the end of the day, they are paying for it.

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    Default Re: If HBO shows such a lack of class again...

    After seeing the children of Cotto crying while he was being beaten senseless, I have to agree that it adds absolutely nothing to the sport of boxing. Entertainment, voyeurism...yes. I could watch Gerry Springer for the same effect. But HBO? hmmmm

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    Default Re: If HBO shows such a lack of class again...

    Quote Originally Posted by LEGION View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by LEGION View Post




    I agree; it's life. It is tasteless but so is life in general. Don't like it turn it off. I paid 50$ for a fight and got what looked like a skit from Benny Hill. Ricky said himself that he and Manny were knockout fighters and someone was going to get knocked out......well someone got ktfo and seeing as how it is a brutal sport and people's sensibilities at the time aren't very sensible, than be prepared for the gory extras.

    I personally liked seeing Ricky being followed out; I wanted to see if he was walking normal. Better than seeing a stretcher hauling him out. I would have rather seen the camera pointed in the audience than watching Ricky gasping for breath and looking like a fish. If the family didn't want to be seen crying they should have put those Ricky masks on

    Now the child thing isn't cool; like what happened with Cotto. But maybe the children shouldn't be there. I am glad Ricky doesn't let his son go to his fights. Kid would have been shaken for life watching that

    It is tasteless no doubt; but when you are in the limelight and getting paid that kind of $$$ expect tasteless to follow you around. Since when has $$$ and tactfulness been a couple? I hope when Larry Merchant has a stroke at one of these they film the whole thing live
    I don't even find it tasteless, it's just an accurate and complete potryal of the event. If the cameras turn away from looking into the crowd its censorship in my view.

    If it would have been Manny knocked out would you object to Hattons family being filmed cheering?

    Boxing is a brutal sport, as is life in general. The camera's like Hatton's family were at a PUBLIC event, therefore the camera cans pan where they want.

    If they tried to record Ricky or his family in the dressing room against their wishes, then that is something else, but at a public event, especially one where both fighters and by association familes are benefitting by the way of several million pounds then they cannot object (and to my knowledge havn't) to being captured on film in that public event.

    I even think the same regarding Cotto's children. The Margarito Cotto fight again was a PUBLIC event where the cameras have every right to film that public event and present as complete a picture of the event as possible.

    Again they should not be filmed weeping in the dressing room, that's not public but the arena was completely public and therefore anything that happens in that arena is by definition public and ok for filming.

    If you don't want to be pictured grieving at a public massively televised event then don't go.

    Sorry for the repetitive emphasis of the same points over and over and the use of capital letters, I annoy myself too when I do that, but as you cannot see when I point and wag my fingers I need to do something to convey the importance I feel should be attached to my words



    No problem Bilbore; I think everyone is used to it. Good points for sure.

    I mean when you were fighting to breathe and pushing your little oxygen tank around the UK with tubes trailing behind you it would have been perfectly legal to film you in your misery; tasteless but expected. Now had they followed you into your hobbit hole, knowing you were too weak to put up a fight, to film your excessive snivelling and vomit marathons that sir would have crossed the legal line. I'm with you little buddy
    Exactly, although for the millions Hatton and his family got paid they could have filmed me pissing and shitting myself at the same time as I struggled to puke into my little bucket whilst crowds of onlookers looked on and laughed.

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    Default Re: If HBO shows such a lack of class again...

    He threw up


    This is the world of boxing, the announcers are as fair weather as you can get because if they are good to whoever wins the HBO might be able to sign them for future fights. But in this case obviously they wanted to re-hype Manny to perhaps get a super-duper matchup between Manny and the PBF-JMM winner

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