If HBO shows such a lack of class again...

[Taeth]

Wow HBO was bullshit last night, I was so upset when they showed Cotto's family when he lost and they were crying, it was classless to do, and now they did it with the Hatton family again. I know its a indication that our whole society is fucked up, but they shouldn't show that, and when Hatton clearly didn't want to be shown on his way back to the locker room they should give him, his space.

[Gandalf]

I have just finished watching the HBO version just now actually.

I thought it was very distasteful of them to show Ricky walking out at the end. Surely a Hatton team member putting a hand and towel over the camera should have been warning enough. But no, they keep following all the way back to his room. Personally, I would have smashed the camera onto the floor stopping them in their tracks. But that's just me.

And yes, showing tearful family members isn't cool. Ricky was badly hurt in there, but there is no need to take away peoples dignity live on television by showing their distress.

HBO should quit with that kind of thing, because it really is in VERY poor taste.

[amat]

They did the same thing when Cotto lost to Margarito. I don't have much of a problem with it, especially in Hatton's case since obviously with 24/7 he is used to the cameras and for as much as he got paid I'm not sure that was to bad. The showing of family members while their loved one is on another planet on the canvas is another thing, I think that's tacky and without taste.

[Kev]

They did the same thing when Cotto lost to Margarito. I don't have much of a problem with it, especially in Hatton's case since obviously with 24/7 he is used to the cameras and for as much as he got paid I'm not sure that was to bad. The showing of family members while their loved one is on another planet on the canvas is another thing, I think that's tacky and without taste.

I really don't see the problem with it, both fighters got something like $12,000,000 dollars each for the fight and Hatton's family have always been more than happy to have their faces plastered in the papers and push themselves forward on his 24/7 shows.

The money these guys earn (and hence their families get too) is so insane it puts them in the same level as Hollywood earners. If they want to take that much money from the public then they inevitably lose the right to some level of anonymity.

I have no problem at all with a couple of glancing camera shots into the crowd.

[CGM]

That's the risk you take when you bring your family to watch you getting the living crap beat out of you and the cameras are rolling. I'm sure the Hatton clan cheered mightily the last time Hatton beat the crap out of someone. What goes around comes around.

[amat]

I don't think money meant much to the family when they weren't sure if their guy was ever going to be the same. That's a sensitive moment, you could see his fiance was literally shaking it was no good.

As for the money, I really don't think Cotto's kids cared about the money their daddy earned when they were shown crying on TV by HBO. That is crossing the line don't you think? And I'm not one to get to riled up over these things either.

[rjj tszyu]

I have just finished watching the HBO version just now actually.

I thought it was very distasteful of them to show Ricky walking out at the end. Surely a Hatton team member putting a hand and towel over the camera should have been warning enough. But no, they keep following all the way back to his room. Personally, I would have smashed the camera onto the floor stopping them in their tracks. But that's just me.

And yes, showing tearful family members isn't cool. Ricky was badly hurt in there, but there is no need to take away peoples dignity live on television by showing their distress.

HBO should quit with that kind of thing, because it really is in VERY poor taste.

They showed Ricky's girlfriend screaming after the PBF KO too.

[Gandalf]

I have just finished watching the HBO version just now actually.

I thought it was very distasteful of them to show Ricky walking out at the end. Surely a Hatton team member putting a hand and towel over the camera should have been warning enough. But no, they keep following all the way back to his room. Personally, I would have smashed the camera onto the floor stopping them in their tracks. But that's just me.

And yes, showing tearful family members isn't cool. Ricky was badly hurt in there, but there is no need to take away peoples dignity live on television by showing their distress.

HBO should quit with that kind of thing, because it really is in VERY poor taste.

They showed Ricky's girlfriend screaming after the PBF KO too.

That's right.

And it doesn't just get put on tv for that one time. You get muppets on less tasteful sites putting up pictures, adding captions and taking the piss and thinking it's all one big joke. So, it doesn't just stay on HBO it ends up all over the place.

Not nice at all.

[Kev]

I don't think money meant much to the family when they weren't sure if their guy was ever going to be the same. That's a sensitive moment, you could see his fiance was literally shaking it was no good.

As for the money, I really don't think Cotto's kids cared about the money their daddy earned when they were shown crying on TV by HBO. That is crossing the line don't you think? And I'm not one to get to riled up over these things either.

It's life mate, what about all the aid campaigns we watch with crying African children or people mourning their lost ones in a natural disaster. The camera doesn't turn away from them instead it focuses on them, the only difference here is that the people involved are mega rich superstars who put themselves and their families in the limelight to make a fortune and then can't complain when they get filmed when things go wrong.

By the way, have any fighters actually complained about this? Personally I think not showing their reactions would be censorship, seeing the worry and concern on his loved one's faces only serves to reinforce what a brutal sport boxing is.

[LEGION]

I don't think money meant much to the family when they weren't sure if their guy was ever going to be the same. That's a sensitive moment, you could see his fiance was literally shaking it was no good.

As for the money, I really don't think Cotto's kids cared about the money their daddy earned when they were shown crying on TV by HBO. That is crossing the line don't you think? And I'm not one to get to riled up over these things either.

It's life mate, what about all the aid campaigns we watch with crying African children or people mourning their lost ones in a natural disaster. The camera doesn't turn away from them instead it focuses on them, the only difference here is that the people involved are mega rich superstars who put themselves and their families in the limelight to make a fortune and then can't complain when they get filmed when things go wrong.

By the way, have any fighters actually complained about this? Personally I think not showing their reactions would be censorship, seeing the worry and concern on his loved one's faces only serves to reinforce what a brutal sport boxing is.

I agree; it's life. It is tasteless but so is life in general. Don't like it turn it off. I paid 50$ for a fight and got what looked like a skit from Benny Hill. Ricky said himself that he and Manny were knockout fighters and someone was going to get knocked out......well someone got ktfo and seeing as how it is a brutal sport and people's sensibilities at the time aren't very sensible, than be prepared for the gory extras.

I personally liked seeing Ricky being followed out; I wanted to see if he was walking normal. Better than seeing a stretcher hauling him out. I would have rather seen the camera pointed in the audience than watching Ricky gasping for breath and looking like a fish. If the family didn't want to be seen crying they should have put those Ricky masks on

Now the child thing isn't cool; like what happened with Cotto. But maybe the children shouldn't be there. I am glad Ricky doesn't let his son go to his fights. Kid would have been shaken for life watching that

It is tasteless no doubt; but when you are in the limelight and getting paid that kind of $$$ expect tasteless to follow you around. Since when has $$$ and tactfulness been a couple? I hope when Larry Merchant has a stroke at one of these they film the whole thing live

[Gandalf]

I don't think money meant much to the family when they weren't sure if their guy was ever going to be the same. That's a sensitive moment, you could see his fiance was literally shaking it was no good.

As for the money, I really don't think Cotto's kids cared about the money their daddy earned when they were shown crying on TV by HBO. That is crossing the line don't you think? And I'm not one to get to riled up over these things either.

It's life mate, what about all the aid campaigns we watch with crying African children or people mourning their lost ones in a natural disaster. The camera doesn't turn away from them instead it focuses on them, the only difference here is that the people involved are mega rich superstars who put themselves and their families in the limelight to make a fortune and then can't complain when they get filmed when things go wrong.

By the way, have any fighters actually complained about this? Personally I think not showing their reactions would be censorship, seeing the worry and concern on his loved one's faces only serves to reinforce what a brutal sport boxing is.

I agree; it's life. It is tasteless but so is life in general. Don't like it turn it off. I paid 50$ for a fight and got what looked like a skit from Benny Hill. Ricky said himself that he and Manny were knockout fighters and someone was going to get knocked out......well someone got ktfo and seeing as how it is a brutal sport and people's sensibilities at the time aren't very sensible, than be prepared for the gory extras.

I personally liked seeing Ricky being followed out; I wanted to see if he was walking normal. Better than seeing a stretcher hauling him out. I would have rather seen the camera pointed in the audience than watching Ricky gasping for breath and looking like a fish. If the family didn't want to be seen crying they should have put those Ricky masks on

Now the child thing isn't cool; like what happened with Cotto. But maybe the children shouldn't be there. I am glad Ricky doesn't let his son go to his fights. Kid would have been shaken for life watching that

It is tasteless no doubt; but when you are in the limelight and getting paid that kind of $$$ expect tasteless to follow you around. Since when has $$$ and tactfulness been a couple? I hope when Larry Merchant has a stroke at one of these they film the whole thing live

That is very funny!

[Kev]

I don't think money meant much to the family when they weren't sure if their guy was ever going to be the same. That's a sensitive moment, you could see his fiance was literally shaking it was no good.

As for the money, I really don't think Cotto's kids cared about the money their daddy earned when they were shown crying on TV by HBO. That is crossing the line don't you think? And I'm not one to get to riled up over these things either.

It's life mate, what about all the aid campaigns we watch with crying African children or people mourning their lost ones in a natural disaster. The camera doesn't turn away from them instead it focuses on them, the only difference here is that the people involved are mega rich superstars who put themselves and their families in the limelight to make a fortune and then can't complain when they get filmed when things go wrong.

By the way, have any fighters actually complained about this? Personally I think not showing their reactions would be censorship, seeing the worry and concern on his loved one's faces only serves to reinforce what a brutal sport boxing is.

I agree; it's life. It is tasteless but so is life in general. Don't like it turn it off. I paid 50$ for a fight and got what looked like a skit from Benny Hill. Ricky said himself that he and Manny were knockout fighters and someone was going to get knocked out......well someone got ktfo and seeing as how it is a brutal sport and people's sensibilities at the time aren't very sensible, than be prepared for the gory extras.

I personally liked seeing Ricky being followed out; I wanted to see if he was walking normal. Better than seeing a stretcher hauling him out. I would have rather seen the camera pointed in the audience than watching Ricky gasping for breath and looking like a fish. If the family didn't want to be seen crying they should have put those Ricky masks on

Now the child thing isn't cool; like what happened with Cotto. But maybe the children shouldn't be there. I am glad Ricky doesn't let his son go to his fights. Kid would have been shaken for life watching that

It is tasteless no doubt; but when you are in the limelight and getting paid that kind of $$$ expect tasteless to follow you around. Since when has $$$ and tactfulness been a couple? I hope when Larry Merchant has a stroke at one of these they film the whole thing live

I don't even find it tasteless, it's just an accurate and complete potryal of the event. If the cameras turn away from looking into the crowd its censorship in my view.

If it would have been Manny knocked out would you object to Hattons family being filmed cheering?

Boxing is a brutal sport, as is life in general. The camera's like Hatton's family were at a PUBLIC event, therefore the camera cans pan where they want.

If they tried to record Ricky or his family in the dressing room against their wishes, then that is something else, but at a public event, especially one where both fighters and by association familes are benefitting by the way of several million pounds then they cannot object (and to my knowledge havn't) to being captured on film in that public event.

I even think the same regarding Cotto's children. The Margarito Cotto fight again was a PUBLIC event where the cameras have every right to film that public event and present as complete a picture of the event as possible.

Again they should not be filmed weeping in the dressing room, that's not public but the arena was completely public and therefore anything that happens in that arena is by definition public and ok for filming.

If you don't want to be pictured grieving at a public massively televised event then don't go.

Sorry for the repetitive emphasis of the same points over and over and the use of capital letters, I annoy myself too when I do that, but as you cannot see when I point and wag my fingers I need to do something to convey the importance I feel should be attached to my words

[LEGION]

It's life mate, what about all the aid campaigns we watch with crying African children or people mourning their lost ones in a natural disaster. The camera doesn't turn away from them instead it focuses on them, the only difference here is that the people involved are mega rich superstars who put themselves and their families in the limelight to make a fortune and then can't complain when they get filmed when things go wrong.

By the way, have any fighters actually complained about this? Personally I think not showing their reactions would be censorship, seeing the worry and concern on his loved one's faces only serves to reinforce what a brutal sport boxing is.

I agree; it's life. It is tasteless but so is life in general. Don't like it turn it off. I paid 50$ for a fight and got what looked like a skit from Benny Hill. Ricky said himself that he and Manny were knockout fighters and someone was going to get knocked out......well someone got ktfo and seeing as how it is a brutal sport and people's sensibilities at the time aren't very sensible, than be prepared for the gory extras.

I personally liked seeing Ricky being followed out; I wanted to see if he was walking normal. Better than seeing a stretcher hauling him out. I would have rather seen the camera pointed in the audience than watching Ricky gasping for breath and looking like a fish. If the family didn't want to be seen crying they should have put those Ricky masks on

Now the child thing isn't cool; like what happened with Cotto. But maybe the children shouldn't be there. I am glad Ricky doesn't let his son go to his fights. Kid would have been shaken for life watching that

It is tasteless no doubt; but when you are in the limelight and getting paid that kind of $$$ expect tasteless to follow you around. Since when has $$$ and tactfulness been a couple? I hope when Larry Merchant has a stroke at one of these they film the whole thing live

I don't even find it tasteless, it's just an accurate and complete potryal of the event. If the cameras turn away from looking into the crowd its censorship in my view.

If it would have been Manny knocked out would you object to Hattons family being filmed cheering?

Boxing is a brutal sport, as is life in general. The camera's like Hatton's family were at a PUBLIC event, therefore the camera cans pan where they want.

If they tried to record Ricky or his family in the dressing room against their wishes, then that is something else, but at a public event, especially one where both fighters and by association familes are benefitting by the way of several million pounds then they cannot object (and to my knowledge havn't) to being captured on film in that public event.

I even think the same regarding Cotto's children. The Margarito Cotto fight again was a PUBLIC event where the cameras have every right to film that public event and present as complete a picture of the event as possible.

Again they should not be filmed weeping in the dressing room, that's not public but the arena was completely public and therefore anything that happens in that arena is by definition public and ok for filming.

If you don't want to be pictured grieving at a public massively televised event then don't go.

Sorry for the repetitive emphasis of the same points over and over and the use of capital letters, I annoy myself too when I do that, but as you cannot see when I point and wag my fingers I need to do something to convey the importance I feel should be attached to my words

No problem Bilbore; I think everyone is used to it. Good points for sure.

I mean when you were fighting to breathe and pushing your little oxygen tank around the UK with tubes trailing behind you it would have been perfectly legal to film you in your misery; tasteless but expected. Now had they followed you into your hobbit hole, knowing you were too weak to put up a fight, to film your excessive snivelling and vomit marathons that sir would have crossed the legal line. I'm with you little buddy

[Gandalf]

I agree; it's life. It is tasteless but so is life in general. Don't like it turn it off. I paid 50$ for a fight and got what looked like a skit from Benny Hill. Ricky said himself that he and Manny were knockout fighters and someone was going to get knocked out......well someone got ktfo and seeing as how it is a brutal sport and people's sensibilities at the time aren't very sensible, than be prepared for the gory extras.

I personally liked seeing Ricky being followed out; I wanted to see if he was walking normal. Better than seeing a stretcher hauling him out. I would have rather seen the camera pointed in the audience than watching Ricky gasping for breath and looking like a fish. If the family didn't want to be seen crying they should have put those Ricky masks on

Now the child thing isn't cool; like what happened with Cotto. But maybe the children shouldn't be there. I am glad Ricky doesn't let his son go to his fights. Kid would have been shaken for life watching that

It is tasteless no doubt; but when you are in the limelight and getting paid that kind of $$$ expect tasteless to follow you around. Since when has $$$ and tactfulness been a couple? I hope when Larry Merchant has a stroke at one of these they film the whole thing live

I don't even find it tasteless, it's just an accurate and complete potryal of the event. If the cameras turn away from looking into the crowd its censorship in my view.

If it would have been Manny knocked out would you object to Hattons family being filmed cheering?

Boxing is a brutal sport, as is life in general. The camera's like Hatton's family were at a PUBLIC event, therefore the camera cans pan where they want.

If they tried to record Ricky or his family in the dressing room against their wishes, then that is something else, but at a public event, especially one where both fighters and by association familes are benefitting by the way of several million pounds then they cannot object (and to my knowledge havn't) to being captured on film in that public event.

I even think the same regarding Cotto's children. The Margarito Cotto fight again was a PUBLIC event where the cameras have every right to film that public event and present as complete a picture of the event as possible.

Again they should not be filmed weeping in the dressing room, that's not public but the arena was completely public and therefore anything that happens in that arena is by definition public and ok for filming.

If you don't want to be pictured grieving at a public massively televised event then don't go.

Sorry for the repetitive emphasis of the same points over and over and the use of capital letters, I annoy myself too when I do that, but as you cannot see when I point and wag my fingers I need to do something to convey the importance I feel should be attached to my words

No problem Bilbore; I think everyone is used to it. Good points for sure.

I mean when you were fighting to breathe and pushing your little oxygen tank around the UK with tubes trailing behind you it would have been perfectly legal to film you in your misery; tasteless but expected. Now had they followed you into your hobbit hole, knowing you were too weak to put up a fight, to film your excessive snivelling and vomit marathons that sir would have crossed the legal line. I'm with you little buddy

Someone's on form today!!

[El Kabong]

Well at least they didn't chant

"THERE'S ONLY ONE........GUY WHO GOT KNOCKED THE FUCK OUT!"