Daily Show calls Truman a war criminal

[Youngblood]

Is he that famous US president that used to like to dress up in womans cloths?

...I think you are confused. J. Edgar Hoover, while around at that point in time, he was never President and never ran for President, he was the head of the FBI and served from 1935 til his death in 1972. He was famous for being the head of the FBI and also allegedly a closet queen and dressing up in women's clothes.

oh ya. him

[Andre]

Is he that famous US president that used to like to dress up in womans cloths?

...I think you are confused. J. Edgar Hoover, while around at that point in time, he was never President and never ran for President, he was the head of the FBI and served from 1935 til his death in 1972. He was famous for being the head of the FBI and also allegedly a closet queen and dressing up in women's clothes.

oh ya. him

F B I = Feminine Bastard Incorporated ;-)

[Gandalf]

Bush and Cheney are war criminals too with their disregard of the Geneva Conventions. String 'em all up, I say!!



































































Will that make Lyle angry....

[El Kabong]

miles, after your previous posts on this thread I just don't take you seriously.

Sure the left had been clammoring for Bush and Cheaney to get the war criminal treatment but in all honesty they don't deserve it, I mean it's better than what the CIA used to do....I don't think overdosing someone on LSD is all that great, I'd rather be water boarded, don't know about you. It's not like the CIA sawed anyone's head off, so we're still the good guys in that regard so there you have it.

[VictorCharlie]

I almost find the term war criminal paradoxical.

[CFH]

I almost find the term war criminal paradoxical.

I agree with that as well. The notion varies wildly based on whatever the current cultural constructs of which classifications of people (ie. soldiers, civilians) can be justifiably killed, maimed, or "tortured".

[Gandalf]

miles, after your previous posts on this thread I just don't take you seriously.

Sure the left had been clammoring for Bush and Cheaney to get the war criminal treatment but in all honesty they don't deserve it, I mean it's better than what the CIA used to do....I don't think overdosing someone on LSD is all that great, I'd rather be water boarded, don't know about you. It's not like the CIA sawed anyone's head off, so we're still the good guys in that regard so there you have it.

A little bit tongue in cheek perhaps, but not a million miles away really. A better label for these types might be "the morally obsolete". Not good people by any stretch of the imagination. Mike Tyson has commited fewer crimes against humanity than these people!

[El Kabong]

At the end of the day the USA is still the good guy.

[CFH]

At the end of the day the USA is still the good guy.

I think a nation as powerful as the United States is far too complex to be described in terms of good and evil. Really, I think that it's impossible to describe any nation in such terms except for extreme cases such as Nazi Germany or Stalinist Russia etc. America does many things I would consider to be good, but it also does many things I would not consider good. However, it also depends on how the word "good" is defined in this instance. At a very basic level, the primary goal of the nation is to look after it's own citizens and perhaps that is the only way which it should be judged. However, the very structure of the nation and the interconnectedness of our world means that a country, particularly one as powerful as America, has such scope and impact worldwide that some consideration must be given for the way its actions impact others.

I guess that was a long-winded way of saying I have no idea if America is "good" or not as I don't even know how to define "good" in this instance...

[Gandalf]

At the end of the day the USA is still the good guy.

Every nation likes to think that about themselves.

America has had it's many moments when that could be questioned. But I'm hopeful that this change in administration might lead to a renewed attitude of respect for the states. It's been very touch and go with Bush at the helm.

I find it very hard to make excuses for his time in office.