Can McCain do a truman come November?

[pacfan]

Is there by any chance for McCain to do what Truman did - coming from behind in polls to beat his rival Dewey by 8% popular vote? Just asking...

[Bomp]

Yes it is. Undecided voters are among the stupidest people on earth, and all this communist BS might actually work.

I actually like Mccain, and hope all this far right stuff is just a charade to get the Crazy evangelical vote. He tried running with sound reasonable policies and arguments in 2000 but got battered by meaningless one line sloguns.

[El Kabong]

McCain has a chance to win, there are too many variables to call the race right now having a woman and minority running on seperate tickets kinds of throws all we know about polls out the window.

Bomp McCain was beaten in 2000 by the Bushies calling people in South Carolina and saying "Would you vote for John McCain if he had a black daughter out of wedlock?" ....sheisty stuff.

If you asked Democrats to choose a Republican Candidate they could bare in the White House before the general election began the majority of Democrats would have chosen John McCain and for good reason, he is a moderate Republican.

I like John McCain, I don't think Sarah Palin was the greatest choice as VP though.

No matter who wins we're going to be ok in the end

[CGM]

Anything is possible. Watch for McCain to have an ace in the hole, which he will spring at the last moment, regardles of it's validity, leaving little time for an Obama response, or for meaningful debate. Then it would require a significant number of people to buy into this ace at the last minute.

For example, here is a link to an article on MSNBC.com. The title is Obama predicts 'significant recession'

In this article Obama says that economic conditions will get worse before they gets better, regardless of who wins the election.

Now this is a pretty significant statement for Obama to make right before an election.

Expect McCain to wait till Sundau or Monday, then make a major announcement that says that Obama is obviously unable to deal with economic conditions and is prepared to accept a recession, while I on the other hand have a new plan to end the recesion. This statement will get made regardless of the validity or even existence of said plan, without time for analysis before the election. It then remains to be seen whether a significant number of undecided and left leaning Americans will buy into this.

edit: oops here is the link Obama predicts ‘significant recession’ - Nightly News with Brian Williams

[El Kabong]

....McCain issued a statement saying that before the Obama campaign even reacted to it. I heard it around 2-3 today.

[CGM]

....McCain issued a statement saying that before the Obama campaign even reacted to it. I heard it around 2-3 today.

I don't quite follow you. Before the Obama campaign reacted to what? Obama makes the statement, as described in the article, and McCain responds.

Was McCain's statement that he disagreed that things would get worse before they got better if he was elected?

[El Kabong]

Today when the stocks went down the McCain camp reacted first

[CGM]

I'm not talking about stocks going down. Stocks have been going up and down for weeks. That isn't even mentioned in the article. I'm talking about Obama's statement that things will get worse before they get better, no matter who is elected, and if, when, and how McCain will respond to that statement.

In a larger sense, I am talking aout making significant statements and promises at the last minute, as a campaign tactic in order to turn things around.

p.s. I forgot to include the link at first, it's there in my post now.

[killersheep]

Of course he could, these "polls" are just how people feel on those days, let's see who actually shows up on November 4th. "A sure thing" and "politics" are never one and the same.

[Kirkland Laing]

I'm still hoping McCain wins. The next few years are going to be ugly for the US economy and foreign policy and it would be good for the GOP to reap what they sowed rather than have obama become the new Jimmy Carter who reaped what Nixon sowed.

[pacfan]

So that means you GOP folks still have a lot to hope for, right? I was thinking from historical perspective that it would be possible. It would have been better if Mac was Democrat like Truman, though.

I'm still hoping McCain wins. The next few years are going to be ugly for the US economy and foreign policy and it would be good for the GOP to reap what they sowed rather than have obama become the new Jimmy Carter who reaped what Nixon sowed.

Ya, I wonder why anyone in his right mind would want to be a president now, with all the mess left behind and probably much more to follow. If I were both of them I'd give it gladly, free of charge, to ol' Ralph who's been aching for it ever since the days of our grandpas...

But seriously, I think, as Lyle has always been hoping for, that things will be all right, though no doubt it would be a bumpy road ahead, with lots of rocks, nay boulders, strewn all over. The great US of A, despite the arrogance of its leader sometimes, has been very resilient ever since the oil embargo - it has overcome many crisis without much damage, including a very serious savings and loan crisis of the 80's that likewise saw billions of dollars of public money been used to bail out those companies and mortgages in trouble. I must admit the present crisis is by far much more serious than any previous ones but with the knowledge and tools available today that weren't available then, the authorities will probably find the way to cruise thru the crisis somehow. But make no mistake about it, folks, the crisis is potentially very devastating. If the economic honchos can't get the loans moving again, many other financial institutions might get into trouble and when that happens, all the available money will soon dry up and... I'll leave it up to your imagination - it'll be so ugly that I haven't got the heart to describe it. But again, as I've said, the US and the world have been surprisingly resilient the last couple decades, so I'm confident, though guardedly, that everything will turn out all right. Just keep your fingers crossed, fellas.

[TheChosenOne]

im not an american but i do like politics and i do follow the us politics

obama probbaly got this one in the bag

but obama and his vice pres binden is too god dam close to osama bin lahdin.

and nostradamus did predict the there would be a 3rd antichrist
and it did kinda sound like it was osama bin laden. just worded differntly

[El Kabong]

I'm still hoping McCain wins. The next few years are going to be ugly for the US economy and foreign policy and it would be good for the GOP to reap what they sowed rather than have obama become the new Jimmy Carter who reaped what Nixon sowed.

...no one will ever be radical enough for you poor Kirkland....at least not in the US

[pacfan]

im not an american but i do like politics and i do follow the us politics

obama probbaly got this one in the bag

but obama and his vice pres binden is too god dam close to osama bin lahdin.

and nostradamus did predict the there would be a 3rd antichrist
and it did kinda sound like it was osama bin laden. just worded differntly

ObamaBi(nla)den = 'crash' on the twin tower, which is a

symbol of economic might of the US. So does that mean

the Obama-Biden symbolizes economic crash of the US?


Okay, folks, don't get me wrong here, 'symbolizes' doesn't necessarily mean they are responsible for it. If the crash ever happens, their predecessors are definitely more to blame for it. I was going to start a thread about this but decided not to as I might offend some people. But curiously, the name coincidence is too strange to ignore.

[El Kabong]

......Ok Nostra-dumbass ......you know shit like that doesn't help anybody.

Everyone knows Kirkland is the anti-Christ