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after watching more of Marquez and Mayweather.
I am starting to re believe that Mayweather will win this pretty one sidedly. I know what I wrote before, but Mayweather has been fighting bigger guys lately and thats likely the main reason he has become so defensive minded, pulling up his stuff from when he was at 130,135,140. He has too much speed(at that time he was significantly faster than Pacquiao) too much accuracy, and he's still so hard to hit. Though Manny has made great strides towards becoming more of a complete fighter, he is still sort of like a train, he doesn't get off as a quick as he throws combinations. Whereas Mayweather is the opposite, against Manny he can catch him off guard if you beat him to the punch, but against Mayweather he will likely still be able to land before you even if he starts his punch after you do, and in all likely hood get out of the way or roll most of the damage off the punch being thrown.
But it wasn't so much from watching Mayweather, but Marquez that makes me feel Mayweather will be too much, watching Marquez against Chris John, Barrera, Casamayor makes me feel that Marquez is 1) isn't as effective against conventionally trained fighters as he is against Manny if you compare the natural skill level of Manny and Casamayor for example. 2) Marquez was being hit by guys who threw punches conventionally who were way slower than MAyweather, IMO Mayweather will be able to land at will, and likely be too far away by the time Marquez tries to counter.
The differences between Mayweather and Manny
1) Mayweather is always in balance when fighting orthodox fighters. This means no catching him out of position like Marquez did. This means he can get in and out quicker than Manny can because he won't have to regain his balance.
2) Mayweather will have a jab that can land quicker than Manny get land that left cross off, as quick as he does it, but once again a jab like Floyd's doesn't leave you open, and he is also so good at changing into a lead hook. This along with his height and freakishly long arms makes it hard for Marquez to find a rhythm because Mayweather throws a stiff, solid jab.
3) Counter punching: Mayweather is in a different league than Manny in this regard, if he is as sharp as he was before his retirement(he has been training since december) he will be hitting Marquez in situations nobody else has been able to, and Mayweather always finds a way to escape unscathed when he is countering punching. This has dispirited everyone he has ever foughten, including guys like Baldomir who walked through the harder punching Judah and Vernon Forest's punches because he was able to land, within 4 roudns with Mayweather he was totally discouraged until Mayweather hurt his right hand and wasn't able to throw with any conviction.
4) Defense: Mayweather is so hard to hit, I am not sure if this will discourage Marquez, but he won't be able to 1 punch Mayweather, and he won't be landing like he has with anyone else. The one certainty is that you won't land consistently on Mayweather all night. Even Judah who was countering well early wasn't able to land very much once Mayweather made his adjustments, but Judah has speed and timing that nobody Mayweather will ever encounter will possess(unless he fights Berto).
5) Size: not that Mayweather will use his size on Marquez, but that Marquez's size won't intimidate Mayweather from fighting how he is suppose to fight like he used to at 140 and below. You won't see Floyd fighting out of a shell uber defensively, you will see a closer version to the guy who fought G. Hernandez, Sosa, Corrales, etc. He won't be scared to throw punches, to mix it up, and he will really be able to let his speed loose in ways he hasn't for the last few years at 147 and above against a lot bigger guys who he tried to avoid trading with at all costs.
Anyways All in all I am starting to see that Mayweather has too many advantages for this to be a close fight.
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Originally Posted by Taeth
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