The Mayweather double standard.

[killersheep]

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[Majesty]

People think this argument can end

It wouldnt end even if Mayweather beat Pacquiao, Cotto and Mosley

[ElTerribleMorales]

People think this argument can end

It wouldnt end even if Mayweather beat Pacquiao, Cotto, Mosley, Angulo, Williams, Kirkland, Abraham, Pavlik, Wright, Taylor, Froch, Bute, Andrade, Kessler, Hopkins, Calzaghe, Jones Jr, Dawson, Johnson, Adamek, Peter, Chambers, Haye, Wlad and Vitali

fixed it lol

[Majesty]

People think this argument can end

It wouldnt end even if Mayweather beat Pacquiao, Cotto, Mosley, Angulo, Williams, Kirkland, Abraham, Pavlik, Wright, Taylor, Froch, Bute, Andrade, Kessler, Hopkins, Calzaghe, Jones Jr, Dawson, Johnson, Adamek, Peter, Chambers, Haye, Wlad and Vitali

fixed it lol

I got the excuse for every win too

Pacquiao: Too Small

Cotto: Over hyped or not experienced enough
Mosley: Shot
Angulo: Overrated
Williams: Overrated since the first quintana fight Kirkland: One dimensional
Abraham: Why didn't he fight Pavlik?
Pavli: Overrated
Wright: Past his prime
Taylor: Exposed by Spinks and passed it
Froch: Overrated only has one punch
Bute: Exposed by Andrade
Andrade: One dimensional, got lucky against Bute Kessler: Overrated
Hopkins: past his prime
Calzaghe: Rusty from retirement
Jones Jr: Past his prime
Dawson: Never impressive
Johnson: Not that good anyway or past his prime Adamek: A nobody
Peter: exposed twice already
Chambers: Weakest heavyweight ever
Haye: One dimensional, glass chin
Wlad: Glass chin and tired out swinging
Vitali: Injury prone and couldnt train right

[Julius Rain]

[quote=ElTerribleMorales;731362]

3 names on Pacquiao's resume that are better then anyone Mayweather fought?

Sure they are "names" but lets take a closer look at it floyd hater

He only beat Morales after Erik moved back down in weight and had already lost to Zahir Raheem. If Pacquiao was the warrior you make him out to be that fought everyone he would have fought Raheem but he fought a second match with an obviously faded Morales for the money and you can make the argument that Erik was past his prime and that the Raheem fight showed that. And there is a lot of people who feel Pacquiao lost both fights against Marquez and he barely won the second one, by one round because of the knockdown.


But on Mayweathers resume, everyone on that list with the exception of the first Castillo fight, Mayweather dominated them. But Pacquiao only dominated one and that was Barerra and it can be said he only beat Morales after Morales was past his prime and also that he didn't beat Marquez or barely squeaked by. So defend that

There may be the three "names" on Pacquiao's resume but he only dominated one in their prime. all the names on Mayweather's list he dominated with the exception of the first Castillo fight and even then he came back and won the rematch with ease. Pacquiao on the other hand after "improving" only barely beat Marquez because of the knockdown and there is a lot of argument to say that he lost that rematch too. Meanwhile there is no one on Mayweathers resume with the exception of the first Castillo fight that you could find anyone that says that Mayweather could have lost

who did Morales ever beat AFTER losing to RAHEEM? that's right, nobody, and yea i am one of the people that now credits a portion of Morales' win to Manny's lack of experience and although i feel prime for prime Morales had the style to beat Pacquiao, i think that the Morales that beat Pacquiao would lose to the Manny of now

OK you are right floyd demolish everybody he fought, but i'll ask you a simple question. Is he as ambitious when it come to having a tough fighting schedule like pac?

Pac: within about 15 months - mab(first fight at 126), jmm, eric(first fight at 130) = two different division.

Pac : within about 14 months - jmm, diaz, oscar, hatton = 4 different divison

Pac: next - cotto?, floyd/jmm winner?, mosley?

If floyd was as tough as pac he would of fought casamayor,koysta,mosely, cotto,margarito, williams, a long time ago or atleast one of them no but his fighting a lightweight champion currently

on that same note, if Manny was so tough he would have given Marquez an immediate rematch instead of jumping weight to fight the bum David Diaz, a weight drained shot DLH, and Mayweather's leftovers, is that how i feel, no, i give credit where credit is due, and IMO even though i feel Mayweather would beat Pacquiao, and that he's more skilled than him, i think both fighters have accomplished just as much, unlike you, i'm giving an un-biased opinion

I can be unbias against floyd because he does run his mouth like his so great but his not facing great opposition like pac is. Everybody knows floyd is very talented but he rather talk about how good he is instead of finding out for sure, like what pac is doing. He is challenging himself time after time. Ofcourse the results wont be as perfect as floyds fight result thats because pac is fighting the best as consistent as possible.

I agree with you about Eric, IMO eric has better chance beating pac then mab. I think pac has mabs number and if eric jmm fought I'll bet on eric.

You ask why didn't pac fight jmm right away after there second fight? you mean like how izzy gave rafa an immediate third match? I think it would of been a bad move if they fought right away after the second because look what both guys has done since. jmm lightweight king, pac lightwelterweight king. Do you remember what happen after the first fight? why did jmm disagree in a rematch right away? instead he went to indonesia and got robbed.

You can't call david diaz a bum, his the same guy that ko'ed the guy that defeated casamayor before jmm did.

you can't call oscar dela hoya floyds left over or hatton, floyd barely won against oscar and pac ko'ed hatton 5 times faster in hattons division

you said your not being unbias but you claim floyd obviously has the better record

casamayor,koysta,mosely, cotto,margarito, williams, a long time ago or atleast one of them no but his fighting a lightweight champion currently

If Pacquiao was so tough why didn't he fight Vasquez, Marquez, Gonzalez, Guzman, Casamayor, Diaz(juan) and Larios(in his prime not after Vasquez already had knocked him out a fight before)

It can go both ways if you wanna cherry pick who he didn't fight.

The difference is Vasquez, Marquez, Gonzalez were not in the same time as pac was when pac was at bantamweight. Pac fought Larios only because nobody wanted to step up and fight pac in manila. Pac wanted a hometown match, only larios was willing to come up and take on the opportunity. Guzman Pac never happen because of the obvious, Casamayor Pac could of happen if pac didn't take on bigger guys after testing the waters with david diaz. Juan Pac didnt happen because of the same reason. And now that JMM has dispose of those two theres little point of pac facing them now.

See floyd jump up weight classes to take titles from selected oppenents. Pac actually face great fighters along his way to the p4p rankings. Including floyds greatest rival; hatton and dela hoya.

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yea your right but this is what we're here for, just a fun debate.no harm at all.

[Violent Demise]

You ask why didn't pac fight jmm right away after there second fight? you mean like how izzy gave rafa an immediate third match? I think it would of been a bad move if they fought right away after the second because look what both guys has done since. jmm lightweight king, pac lightwelterweight king. Do you remember what happen after the first fight? why did jmm disagree in a rematch right away? instead he went to indonesia and got robbed.

You can't call david diaz a bum, his the same guy that ko'ed the guy that defeated casamayor before jmm did.

you can't call oscar dela hoya floyds left over or hatton, floyd barely won against oscar and pac ko'ed hatton 5 times faster in hattons division

you said your not being unbias but you claim floyd obviously has the better record

The Marquez-Pacqiauo rematch didn't happen right away cuz of bullshiit from Arum and Pacquiao. They promised him $1.5 million and then tried to come at him with $750,000. What the fukk was that? Really it wasn't even about the money. It was the pricipal. After there second fight Marquez and Golden Boy offered Pacquiao 6 million (at that time a career high purse). Pac turned it down. He took less money to face a much, much lesser fighter. Facts don't lie.

And David Diaz is a bum

[Julius Rain]

You ask why didn't pac fight jmm right away after there second fight? you mean like how izzy gave rafa an immediate third match? I think it would of been a bad move if they fought right away after the second because look what both guys has done since. jmm lightweight king, pac lightwelterweight king. Do you remember what happen after the first fight? why did jmm disagree in a rematch right away? instead he went to indonesia and got robbed.

You can't call david diaz a bum, his the same guy that ko'ed the guy that defeated casamayor before jmm did.

you can't call oscar dela hoya floyds left over or hatton, floyd barely won against oscar and pac ko'ed hatton 5 times faster in hattons division

you said your not being unbias but you claim floyd obviously has the better record

The Marquez-Pacqiauo rematch didn't happen right away cuz of bullshiit from Arum and Pacquiao. They promised him $1.5 million and then tried to come at him with $750,000. What the fukk was that? Really it wasn't even about the money. It was the pricipal. After there second fight Marquez and Golden Boy offered Pacquiao 6 million (at that time a career high purse). Pac turned it down. He took less money to face a much, much lesser fighter. Facts don't lie. Which set up a possible match with oscar dela hoya a huge fight and then another huge fight with hatton.

And David Diaz is a bum, i guess his the same bum that ko'ed the guy who beat your p4p best casamayor

so he turned down $750,000 and took $30,000 to fight and lose in indonesia

[josef4334]

You ask why didn't pac fight jmm right away after there second fight? you mean like how izzy gave rafa an immediate third match? I think it would of been a bad move if they fought right away after the second because look what both guys has done since. jmm lightweight king, pac lightwelterweight king. Do you remember what happen after the first fight? why did jmm disagree in a rematch right away? instead he went to indonesia and got robbed.

You can't call david diaz a bum, his the same guy that ko'ed the guy that defeated casamayor before jmm did.

you can't call oscar dela hoya floyds left over or hatton, floyd barely won against oscar and pac ko'ed hatton 5 times faster in hattons division

you said your not being unbias but you claim floyd obviously has the better record

The Marquez-Pacqiauo rematch didn't happen right away cuz of bullshiit from Arum and Pacquiao. They promised him $1.5 million and then tried to come at him with $750,000. What the fukk was that? Really it wasn't even about the money. It was the pricipal. After there second fight Marquez and Golden Boy offered Pacquiao 6 million (at that time a career high purse). Pac turned it down. He took less money to face a much, much lesser fighter. Facts don't lie. Which set up a possible match with oscar dela hoya a huge fight and then another huge fight with hatton.

And David Diaz is a bum, i guess his the same bum that ko'ed the guy who beat your p4p best casamayor

so he turned down $750,000 and took $30,000 to fight and lose in indonesia

man you beat me to it...

[brucelee]

You ask why didn't pac fight jmm right away after there second fight? you mean like how izzy gave rafa an immediate third match? I think it would of been a bad move if they fought right away after the second because look what both guys has done since. jmm lightweight king, pac lightwelterweight king. Do you remember what happen after the first fight? why did jmm disagree in a rematch right away? instead he went to indonesia and got robbed.

You can't call david diaz a bum, his the same guy that ko'ed the guy that defeated casamayor before jmm did.

you can't call oscar dela hoya floyds left over or hatton, floyd barely won against oscar and pac ko'ed hatton 5 times faster in hattons division

you said your not being unbias but you claim floyd obviously has the better record

The Marquez-Pacqiauo rematch didn't happen right away cuz of bullshiit from Arum and Pacquiao. They promised him $1.5 million and then tried to come at him with $750,000. What the fukk was that? Really it wasn't even about the money. It was the pricipal. After there second fight Marquez and Golden Boy offered Pacquiao 6 million (at that time a career high purse). Pac turned it down. He took less money to face a much, much lesser fighter. Facts don't lie. Which set up a possible match with oscar dela hoya a huge fight and then another huge fight with hatton.

And David Diaz is a bum, i guess his the same bum that ko'ed the guy who beat your p4p best casamayor

so he turned down $750,000 and took $30,000 to fight and lose in indonesia

LOL. VD is clearly making up stories.

and he claims to know some boxing history.

[osncoll_0716]

You ask why didn't pac fight jmm right away after there second fight? you mean like how izzy gave rafa an immediate third match? I think it would of been a bad move if they fought right away after the second because look what both guys has done since. jmm lightweight king, pac lightwelterweight king. Do you remember what happen after the first fight? why did jmm disagree in a rematch right away? instead he went to indonesia and got robbed.

You can't call david diaz a bum, his the same guy that ko'ed the guy that defeated casamayor before jmm did.

you can't call oscar dela hoya floyds left over or hatton, floyd barely won against oscar and pac ko'ed hatton 5 times faster in hattons division

you said your not being unbias but you claim floyd obviously has the better record

The Marquez-Pacqiauo rematch didn't happen right away cuz of bullshiit from Arum and Pacquiao. They promised him $1.5 million and then tried to come at him with $750,000. What the fukk was that? Really it wasn't even about the money. It was the pricipal. After there second fight Marquez and Golden Boy offered Pacquiao 6 million (at that time a career high purse). Pac turned it down. He took less money to face a much, much lesser fighter. Facts don't lie.

And David Diaz is a bum

So JMM fights Chris John for $35,000.00 in his hometown instead? JMM and Nacho Bernstein are total idiots!!!Principal my a** VD ...and guess what ??JMM lost!!!, and he wasnt robbed!!!....