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    Default Re: The Mayweather double standard.

    Quote Originally Posted by piye View Post
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    Wow, Six pages! and pretty much unanimous hatred for Floyd! I mean Floyd is a fighter I like but by no means a favorite of mine! My personal favorites are Paul Williams, David Haye and Shane Moseley.

    I posted this article because I read it as a unbiased rational 26 year old man; and I must say one thing that is clear, the majority of people including professionals (Max Kellermen, Larry Merchant mostly American press) allow the somewhat unfounded hatred they harbor for Floyd Mayweather to affect their judgments.

    I mean a claim I see flying around a lot is Floyd ducked Cotto, However Cotto to my knowledge unlike Margarito, never made any attempt to make a fight with Mayweather, Floyd mentioned Cotto's name as a potential opponent when they were both at 140 and that was the only mention from either fighter! at other times people have asked Cotto about fighting Mayweather and the answer has always been I'll fight whoever they put in front of me.

    The other unfounded claim is Mayweather avoiding Shane despite the fact that it's common knowledge that Floyd called Shane out multiple times, any fan who searches on youtube will also be able to find a video clip of Shane saying he thinks Mayweather should fight Margarito instead, and then that he had a toothache and then was going on family holiday! imagine if Floyd used these excuses?

    I think that Floyd's large mouth and repeated stupid comments have alienated him to the point that he is now actually correct in feeling discriminated against.
    I would never make the argument PBF ducked anyone. However, when he fought for a belt at 147, instead of fighting Margarito or others, he fought Baldomir.

    After that fight, instead of fighting Cotto, Margarito, or Williams, he fought jr. welterweight, Ricky Hatton, at 147 mind you, and now instead of fighting Cotto, Mosley or Paul Williams (Margarito is suspended), he is fighting Marquez. Moreover, his next fight looks to be Pacquiao.

    Will he ever face a prime, elite welterweight?

    The criticism against PBF is that with all the potential options at 147 (in which he probably would be favored), he chooses to fight smaller men.
    Take into account Mayweather called out Shane and Cotto, so let's leave them out of the equation; beat Zab (who is now considered a bum but was undisputed welterweight champ) and beat Oscar at 154 no less who else was there for Floyd to fight at Welter at the time?

    Paul Williams Although a huge threat, was green and a no name, Berto was unheard of or was and still is very green, so that leaves Margarito as the only option who I agree Floyd could have/ should have fought (Although retrospect makes his choice appear a good one).
    Leaving aside the argument about what he should have done in the past, his choice for his last fight and for his next fight leave something to be desired. After he beat Hatton, but before he retired, boxing fans everywhere, pbf fans or not, wanted him to fight Mosley, Cotto, or Margarito (Williams wasn't there yet). Then he retired. Now, he unretires. Yet, instead of fighting any of the above-mentioned boxers, he chooses to fight a blown up light weight, at 147. That is disappointing. And who is his next potential opponent? Probably Manny Paquiao, again at 147. Basically, a welterweight ending his career fighting a junior welterweight, a lightweight, and another lightweight (although Manny may naturally be a 140 fighter), and not fighting one legitimate welterweight, of which there are at least 4 that are worthy.

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    Default Re: The Mayweather double standard.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by piye View Post
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    I would never make the argument PBF ducked anyone. However, when he fought for a belt at 147, instead of fighting Margarito or others, he fought Baldomir.

    After that fight, instead of fighting Cotto, Margarito, or Williams, he fought jr. welterweight, Ricky Hatton, at 147 mind you, and now instead of fighting Cotto, Mosley or Paul Williams (Margarito is suspended), he is fighting Marquez. Moreover, his next fight looks to be Pacquiao.

    Will he ever face a prime, elite welterweight?

    The criticism against PBF is that with all the potential options at 147 (in which he probably would be favored), he chooses to fight smaller men.
    Take into account Mayweather called out Shane and Cotto, so let's leave them out of the equation; beat Zab (who is now considered a bum but was undisputed welterweight champ) and beat Oscar at 154 no less who else was there for Floyd to fight at Welter at the time?

    Paul Williams Although a huge threat, was green and a no name, Berto was unheard of or was and still is very green, so that leaves Margarito as the only option who I agree Floyd could have/ should have fought (Although retrospect makes his choice appear a good one).
    Leaving aside the argument about what he should have done in the past, his choice for his last fight and for his next fight leave something to be desired. After he beat Hatton, but before he retired, boxing fans everywhere, pbf fans or not, wanted him to fight Mosley, Cotto, or Margarito (Williams wasn't there yet). Then he retired. Now, he unretires. Yet, instead of fighting any of the above-mentioned boxers, he chooses to fight a blown up light weight, at 147. That is disappointing. And who is his next potential opponent? Probably Manny Paquiao, again at 147. Basically, a welterweight ending his career fighting a junior welterweight, a lightweight, and another lightweight (although Manny may naturally be a 140 fighter), and not fighting one legitimate welterweight, of which there are at least 4 that are worthy.
    I agree with a lot of what you have said, I want Mayweather to fight Moseley (I think Moseley could win if the fight is soon) but what I do not think is that Mayweather is ducking Moseley, nor has he ever ducked Moseley! Moseley has called out Floyd when it's suitable for him, and Floyd called out Shane when it was suitable for him! it's all money in reality and not ducking!

    Am I dissapointed Floyd is not fighting Shane? Yes, Do I think he should fight Paul? No; paul is to big my point is not if he should fight these people or not though it's that all of this ducking and double standard nonsense and stupid claims annoy me.

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    Default Re: The Mayweather double standard.

    Quote Originally Posted by piye View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by piye View Post

    Take into account Mayweather called out Shane and Cotto, so let's leave them out of the equation; beat Zab (who is now considered a bum but was undisputed welterweight champ) and beat Oscar at 154 no less who else was there for Floyd to fight at Welter at the time?

    Paul Williams Although a huge threat, was green and a no name, Berto was unheard of or was and still is very green, so that leaves Margarito as the only option who I agree Floyd could have/ should have fought (Although retrospect makes his choice appear a good one).
    Leaving aside the argument about what he should have done in the past, his choice for his last fight and for his next fight leave something to be desired. After he beat Hatton, but before he retired, boxing fans everywhere, pbf fans or not, wanted him to fight Mosley, Cotto, or Margarito (Williams wasn't there yet). Then he retired. Now, he unretires. Yet, instead of fighting any of the above-mentioned boxers, he chooses to fight a blown up light weight, at 147. That is disappointing. And who is his next potential opponent? Probably Manny Paquiao, again at 147. Basically, a welterweight ending his career fighting a junior welterweight, a lightweight, and another lightweight (although Manny may naturally be a 140 fighter), and not fighting one legitimate welterweight, of which there are at least 4 that are worthy.
    I agree with a lot of what you have said, I want Mayweather to fight Moseley (I think Moseley could win if the fight is soon) but what I do not think is that Mayweather is ducking Moseley, nor has he ever ducked Moseley! Moseley has called out Floyd when it's suitable for him, and Floyd called out Shane when it was suitable for him! it's all money in reality and not ducking!

    Am I dissapointed Floyd is not fighting Shane? Yes, Do I think he should fight Paul? No; paul is to big my point is not if he should fight these people or not though it's that all of this ducking and double standard nonsense and stupid claims annoy me.
    Fair enough - the ducking rumors are complete nonsense. It's about money and contract terms.

    Floyd needs to fight the natural welterweights. He came out of retirement and again chose to fight a smaller man. I don't dislike Floyd as a fighter, but as a fan, he hasn't taken a challenging fight in a while, and it is wrong to always fight smaller men at your natural weight. He should fight other men who share that natural weight.

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