Roach says "Manny will fight shane at 142 not 147"

[RozzySean]

Pac and Roach are showing what a bunch of pussies they really are, what a gotdam joke.

If you want to fight these guys than fight them at their weight where they are their strongest and best. Everyone gushes over Manny's strength and conditioning. The whole folklore of Manny starting out at 106 is a farce anyway. Big deal!! he was 16 when turned pro, not a fully developed adult. it is not uncommon for an human being to put on 40lbs in 14 years especially an elite athlete like Pac who is a blessed physical specimen.

When I was 16 I weighed about 150 lbs, I started weight training at 23 and put on about 35lbs of muscle in my peak. I wasnt incredibly bulky but extremely functional playing basketball 3x a week and softball once a week. I never used performance enhancers and didnt have the best strength and conditioning coaches money can buy and I would hardly brag about my genetics.. It was and still is a struggle to stay in tip top shape.

So if a middleclass kid with mediocre genetics can play with weights and compete in pickup basketball and softball games and train martial arts and gain 35lbs in that amount of time,I think a pro boxer with all the conditioning experts, supplements and trainers money can buy, could achieve the same.

Also if Roach was saying what a phenom Pac was at 147 with speed and combos, why fear Shane and Cotto then? I smell piss and its coming from roaches pants! By the way Floyd never pulled this shiit, he was called a cherry picker yet when moving up he didnt ask for bullshit demands.

Saddoboxer you crack me up... you honestly think Pac would pick Bertos pocket for a 7th championship? You must be joking !! pac is all wrong for Berto, Andres hands are signifigantlly faster and more powerful. Pac would last 6 with Berto before getting blown out. Berto would outmuscle and outclass pac in every category

Exactly. I weighted 120 at 16 in condition enough to play varsity soccer. In similar condition in my late 20's and early 30's, I weighted 180. If I had been looking to make boxing or wrestling weight at 16, I would have been 112 or 115. With my filled out adult frame, I would have boxed at 160 or 168. So basically, I would have gone from a flyweight/bantamweight to a middleweight/super middle. And like JT says, I'm just an average guy with full time job average athletic ability.

It's amazing that Pac was able to make 130 for as long as he did. Did he look like the smaller man against Hatton? Not by much, if at all. If Pac wants Mosley, let him go to 147 to do it, same with Cotto. It's smart business with Roach, but I won't give Pac a bit of credit if he beat a weight drained 39 y.o. Mosley.

[pacman79]

Pac and Roach are showing what a bunch of pussies they really are, what a gotdam joke.

If you want to fight these guys than fight them at their weight where they are their strongest and best. Everyone gushes over Manny's strength and conditioning. The whole folklore of Manny starting out at 106 is a farce anyway. Big deal!! he was 16 when turned pro, not a fully developed adult. it is not uncommon for an human being to put on 40lbs in 14 years especially an elite athlete like Pac who is a blessed physical specimen.

When I was 16 I weighed about 150 lbs, I started weight training at 23 and put on about 35lbs of muscle in my peak. I wasnt incredibly bulky but extremely functional playing basketball 3x a week and softball once a week. I never used performance enhancers and didnt have the best strength and conditioning coaches money can buy and I would hardly brag about my genetics.. It was and still is a struggle to stay in tip top shape.

So if a middleclass kid with mediocre genetics can play with weights and compete in pickup basketball and softball games and train martial arts and gain 35lbs in that amount of time,I think a pro boxer with all the conditioning experts, supplements and trainers money can buy, could achieve the same.

Also if Roach was saying what a phenom Pac was at 147 with speed and combos, why fear Shane and Cotto then? I smell piss and its coming from roaches pants! By the way Floyd never pulled this shiit, he was called a cherry picker yet when moving up he didnt ask for bullshit demands.

Saddoboxer you crack me up... you honestly think Pac would pick Bertos pocket for a 7th championship? You must be joking !! pac is all wrong for Berto, Andres hands are signifigantlly faster and more powerful. Pac would last 6 with Berto before getting blown out. Berto would outmuscle and outclass pac in every category

Exactly. I weighted 120 at 16 in condition enough to play varsity soccer. In similar condition in my late 20's and early 30's, I weighted 180. If I had been looking to make boxing or wrestling weight at 16, I would have been 112 or 115. With my filled out adult frame, I would have boxed at 160 or 168. So basically, I would have gone from a flyweight/bantamweight to a middleweight/super middle. And like JT says, I'm just an average guy with full time job average athletic ability.

It's amazing that Pac was able to make 130 for as long as he did. Did he look like the smaller man against Hatton? Not by much, if at all. If Pac wants Mosley, let him go to 147 to do it, same with Cotto. It's smart business with Roach, but I won't give Pac a bit of credit if he beat a weight drained 39 y.o. Mosley.

I agree,I'd give him very very little credit and if he thinks he's big enough let him go to 147.
I don't think he is.