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RJJ jumped 6 divisions from 154 to 200+ and he could have picked up lot of titles along the way but he got titles only in 4 divisions (with no LINEAL TITLE)...

PAC jumped 10 divisions from 108 to 147 and so far got titles in 6 divisions (with 4 LINEAL TITLES) where he could have also picked more titles along the way...

So who do you think has more impressive accomplishment jumping divisions, RJJ or PAC??
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Jones, his heavyweight win alone is more impressive, although it was against Ruiz, in that fight Ruiz weighed at least 70 lbs more than Jones had at the beginning of his career, and fight night and come fight night Jones was out weighed by 33 lbs and still dominated the fight, so when Pacquiao fights at 147 against lets say Glen Johnson and pulls off a shut out then i'll say he pulled off a better win
HaHa I was not overly impressed by RJJ's win over John Ruiz for I predicted that RJJ's speed will dominate the slow moving Ruiz...

Jones was outweighed by 33 lbs.?? How about this, Chagaev was outweighed 90 lbs. by Valuev and still won the fight...
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and yet many believe that Chagaev (a natural heavyweight) lost to Valuev, and that Ruiz beat Valuev, Ruiz might be slow but he does have power, and the strength to push a smaller man to the ropes, Ruiz although boring did win MOST of his wins clearly, (can't believe i'm defending Ruiz), like i said when Manny beats someone that' outweighs him by that much well he'd have bragging rights over Jones, until then, not a chance in hell, titles now a days mean nothing, technically Manny didn't do shit at 135, so hardly a dominant figure