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    Default Re: Should winner celebrate while opponenent is out KO'd?

    You can't really control the actions of a boxer after knocking out his opponent cold... They go into a fight with the objective of winning and once they attained that, their very first reaction is to celebrate... Tho if the opponent was badly hurt, there were boxers who showed real concern over their fallen opponent...

    I observed PAC taking a concern look on the flatten Hatton when he was told by the referee to go to the neutral corner... PAC did console Hatton when Hatton was already on his stool...




    When PAC flatten David Diaz, he tried to help Diaz stand up which I think is not the right thing to do... There are medical personnel around the ring that will be tasked to do these things...



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    Default Re: Should winner celebrate while opponenent is out KO'd?

    Quote Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer View Post

    When PAC flatten David Diaz, he tried to help Diaz stand up which I think is not the right thing to do... There are medical personnel around the ring that will be tasked to do these things...



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    Default Re: Should winner celebrate while opponenent is out KO'd?

    I remember Benn taking alot of flack,in the immediate aftermath he jumped on the ropes in celebration,and then you could as it all started to sink in as McClellan lay there.Benn talking to commentators.Sort of a cruel irony and rollercoaster of instant emotions,not knowing in some cases exactly what the toll is.

    One that has always stuck for some reason was a Teddy Reid fight with Amirilano (sp?) Valdez some time ago.Reid strikes me as a headcase,but he was a classless and crass fool,was clubbing Valdez,think he had a late shot mixed in.Guy went down in a bad way,obviously in distress,Reid strutting around,acting the f!!!!g jerk.Pretty sure he lapsed into a coma that night.

    Remember Tyson doing the whole "Let me help you up" thing lol.Quite often.Knock your head off...and then goes running after it for the poor guy sprawled on the deck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    I remember Benn taking alot of flack,in the immediate aftermath he jumped on the ropes in celebration,and then you could as it all started to sink in as McClellan lay there.Benn talking to commentators.Sort of a cruel irony and rollercoaster of instant emotions,not knowing in some cases exactly what the toll is.

    One that has always stuck for some reason was a Teddy Reid fight with Amirilano (sp?) Valdez some time ago.Reid strikes me as a headcase,but he was a classless and crass fool,was clubbing Valdez,think he had a late shot mixed in.Guy went down in a bad way,obviously in distress,Reid strutting around,acting the f!!!!g jerk.Pretty sure he lapsed into a coma that night.

    Remember Tyson doing the whole "Let me help you up" thing lol.Quite often.Knock your head off...and then goes running after it for the poor guy sprawled on the deck.
    was just typing the exact same thing about Benn when my PC crashed, good call on that one. Same with Tyson, always thought that was funny too.Frank Bruno was like that too.Could probably count on one hand the number of real shits that would do it deliberately, usually big grudge matches or re matches. For the most point IMO it's all heat of the moment and what happens ten minutes after or at the presse conference counts more.I think you are entitled after sweating your balls off for months and then landing a KO to celebrate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamiebhoy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    I remember Benn taking alot of flack,in the immediate aftermath he jumped on the ropes in celebration,and then you could as it all started to sink in as McClellan lay there.Benn talking to commentators.Sort of a cruel irony and rollercoaster of instant emotions,not knowing in some cases exactly what the toll is.

    One that has always stuck for some reason was a Teddy Reid fight with Amirilano (sp?) Valdez some time ago.Reid strikes me as a headcase,but he was a classless and crass fool,was clubbing Valdez,think he had a late shot mixed in.Guy went down in a bad way,obviously in distress,Reid strutting around,acting the f!!!!g jerk.Pretty sure he lapsed into a coma that night.

    Remember Tyson doing the whole "Let me help you up" thing lol.Quite often.Knock your head off...and then goes running after it for the poor guy sprawled on the deck.
    was just typing the exact same thing about Benn when my PC crashed, good call on that one. Same with Tyson, always thought that was funny too.Frank Bruno was like that too.Could probably count on one hand the number of real shits that would do it deliberately, usually big grudge matches or re matches. For the most point IMO it's all heat of the moment and what happens ten minutes after or at the presse conference counts more.I think you are entitled after sweating your balls off for months and then landing a KO to celebrate.
    Thats it,the heat of the moment.Also in the manner you know?Like when a guy is clearly in command but its an accumulation leading to KO or a sudden shot out of know where.Its that natural instinct of realizing victory.You can also see the fighters that have beaten on a guy...but they just wont fall and they start asking the ref,motioning because they are weary of hurting someone.Sad all around really.Always talk on that Antonio Tarver/Harding rematch......I literally thought Tarver was going to rough that ref up after the fight,he was yelling in his face "What the hell is wrong with you".Ref was not fit to be in their.Harding took a horrific beating,but just wouldn't quit.

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    Default Re: Should winner celebrate while opponenent is out KO'd?

    There is no better feeling than knocking out your opponent, it's only natural to throw your arms up and take it all in. I don't think Pac knew how bad Hatton was hurt, he was just celebrating with his fans.

    I remember a black female boxer knocking out an opponent and dancing about like a complete fucktard, I just cringed watching her, I'm sure many of you know who I'm talking about I did a quick google but found no name or video.

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    That was Jim Watt from the Sky commentary team. I can confidently say he would have said the same thing had the roles been reversed. I can recall him making similar comments many times over the years.

    I too thought Manny should have cooled the celebration until Hatton was at least sitting up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    That was Jim Watt from the Sky commentary team. I can confidently say he would have said the same thing had the roles been reversed. I can recall him making similar comments many times over the years.

    I too thought Manny should have cooled the celebration until Hatton was at least sitting up.
    Agree mate, Jim Watt would say that regardless of who it was , so his comments wouldn't have been biased, I think he has been more like that since the Benn fight when he ironically was the one excusing Benn by saying he was unaware of what was happening to McClellan.

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    Default Re: Should winner celebrate while opponenent is out KO'd?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    That was Jim Watt from the Sky commentary team. I can confidently say he would have said the same thing had the roles been reversed. I can recall him making similar comments many times over the years.

    I too thought Manny should have cooled the celebration until Hatton was at least sitting up.
    I agree with this.

    I Don't hold anything against Manny for celebrating but still think he should have cooled it a bit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kel View Post
    There is no better feeling than knocking out your opponent, it's only natural to throw your arms up and take it all in. I don't think Pac knew how bad Hatton was hurt, he was just celebrating with his fans.

    I remember a black female boxer knocking out an opponent and dancing about like a complete fucktard, I just cringed watching her, I'm sure many of you know who I'm talking about I did a quick google but found no name or video.
    You're thinking of Anne Wolf after taking out Vonda Ward. She was doing the pelvic thrust while Ward was getting oxygen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kel View Post
    There is no better feeling than knocking out your opponent, it's only natural to throw your arms up and take it all in. I don't think Pac knew how bad Hatton was hurt, he was just celebrating with his fans.

    I remember a black female boxer knocking out an opponent and dancing about like a complete fucktard, I just cringed watching her, I'm sure many of you know who I'm talking about I did a quick google but found no name or video.
    You're thinking of Anne Wolf after taking out Vonda Ward. She was doing the pelvic thrust while Ward was getting oxygen.
    Yeah that's the one killersheep, it was a good KO I remember that, devastating in fact but the way she acted was terrible to watch.

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    Default Re: Should winner celebrate while opponenent is out KO'd?

    Meh, this is a sport where we celebrate and encourage people to knock other people out cold. Knocking someone unconscious is THE BEST thing you can do in this sport, so How can we tell them not to celebrate it?

    I've seen a lot of celebrations that I thought were very tasteless (Ann Wolfe after her brutal KO of Vonda Ward comes to mind), but thats the name of the game.

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    Here's PAC taking a look at the flatten Hatton:




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    Default Re: Should winner celebrate while opponenent is out KO'd?

    I always though it showed a lot of character when a fighter went over to his fallen opponent to see if he was ok. Thats one one the reasons I liked Tyson of all people. But on the other hand, this is a business, and it is the nature of the sport. You knock a guy out cold and you are rewarded. After, the fight is over though, yeah I do like to see good sportsmanship and an itiatial celebration is ok as long as the fighter goes over to see his opponent when he cools down a bit. The thing about a fight though is that your mind i still racing and adrenaline is still flowing after the fight for a few minutes. I rarely even remember my reaction after a fight. In the amateurs if im working a corner we always remend the fighter after the fight to go shake his opponents hand, not because the wouldnt anyways, they just usually just too wound up to think about it.
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