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    Default Re: Should winner celebrate while opponenent is out KO'd?

    I remember Benn taking alot of flack,in the immediate aftermath he jumped on the ropes in celebration,and then you could as it all started to sink in as McClellan lay there.Benn talking to commentators.Sort of a cruel irony and rollercoaster of instant emotions,not knowing in some cases exactly what the toll is.

    One that has always stuck for some reason was a Teddy Reid fight with Amirilano (sp?) Valdez some time ago.Reid strikes me as a headcase,but he was a classless and crass fool,was clubbing Valdez,think he had a late shot mixed in.Guy went down in a bad way,obviously in distress,Reid strutting around,acting the f!!!!g jerk.Pretty sure he lapsed into a coma that night.

    Remember Tyson doing the whole "Let me help you up" thing lol.Quite often.Knock your head off...and then goes running after it for the poor guy sprawled on the deck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    I remember Benn taking alot of flack,in the immediate aftermath he jumped on the ropes in celebration,and then you could as it all started to sink in as McClellan lay there.Benn talking to commentators.Sort of a cruel irony and rollercoaster of instant emotions,not knowing in some cases exactly what the toll is.

    One that has always stuck for some reason was a Teddy Reid fight with Amirilano (sp?) Valdez some time ago.Reid strikes me as a headcase,but he was a classless and crass fool,was clubbing Valdez,think he had a late shot mixed in.Guy went down in a bad way,obviously in distress,Reid strutting around,acting the f!!!!g jerk.Pretty sure he lapsed into a coma that night.

    Remember Tyson doing the whole "Let me help you up" thing lol.Quite often.Knock your head off...and then goes running after it for the poor guy sprawled on the deck.
    was just typing the exact same thing about Benn when my PC crashed, good call on that one. Same with Tyson, always thought that was funny too.Frank Bruno was like that too.Could probably count on one hand the number of real shits that would do it deliberately, usually big grudge matches or re matches. For the most point IMO it's all heat of the moment and what happens ten minutes after or at the presse conference counts more.I think you are entitled after sweating your balls off for months and then landing a KO to celebrate.

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    Default Re: Should winner celebrate while opponenent is out KO'd?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamiebhoy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    I remember Benn taking alot of flack,in the immediate aftermath he jumped on the ropes in celebration,and then you could as it all started to sink in as McClellan lay there.Benn talking to commentators.Sort of a cruel irony and rollercoaster of instant emotions,not knowing in some cases exactly what the toll is.

    One that has always stuck for some reason was a Teddy Reid fight with Amirilano (sp?) Valdez some time ago.Reid strikes me as a headcase,but he was a classless and crass fool,was clubbing Valdez,think he had a late shot mixed in.Guy went down in a bad way,obviously in distress,Reid strutting around,acting the f!!!!g jerk.Pretty sure he lapsed into a coma that night.

    Remember Tyson doing the whole "Let me help you up" thing lol.Quite often.Knock your head off...and then goes running after it for the poor guy sprawled on the deck.
    was just typing the exact same thing about Benn when my PC crashed, good call on that one. Same with Tyson, always thought that was funny too.Frank Bruno was like that too.Could probably count on one hand the number of real shits that would do it deliberately, usually big grudge matches or re matches. For the most point IMO it's all heat of the moment and what happens ten minutes after or at the presse conference counts more.I think you are entitled after sweating your balls off for months and then landing a KO to celebrate.
    Thats it,the heat of the moment.Also in the manner you know?Like when a guy is clearly in command but its an accumulation leading to KO or a sudden shot out of know where.Its that natural instinct of realizing victory.You can also see the fighters that have beaten on a guy...but they just wont fall and they start asking the ref,motioning because they are weary of hurting someone.Sad all around really.Always talk on that Antonio Tarver/Harding rematch......I literally thought Tarver was going to rough that ref up after the fight,he was yelling in his face "What the hell is wrong with you".Ref was not fit to be in their.Harding took a horrific beating,but just wouldn't quit.

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    Default Re: Should winner celebrate while opponenent is out KO'd?

    There is no better feeling than knocking out your opponent, it's only natural to throw your arms up and take it all in. I don't think Pac knew how bad Hatton was hurt, he was just celebrating with his fans.

    I remember a black female boxer knocking out an opponent and dancing about like a complete fucktard, I just cringed watching her, I'm sure many of you know who I'm talking about I did a quick google but found no name or video.

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    Default Re: Should winner celebrate while opponenent is out KO'd?

    That was Jim Watt from the Sky commentary team. I can confidently say he would have said the same thing had the roles been reversed. I can recall him making similar comments many times over the years.

    I too thought Manny should have cooled the celebration until Hatton was at least sitting up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    That was Jim Watt from the Sky commentary team. I can confidently say he would have said the same thing had the roles been reversed. I can recall him making similar comments many times over the years.

    I too thought Manny should have cooled the celebration until Hatton was at least sitting up.
    Agree mate, Jim Watt would say that regardless of who it was , so his comments wouldn't have been biased, I think he has been more like that since the Benn fight when he ironically was the one excusing Benn by saying he was unaware of what was happening to McClellan.

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    Default Re: Should winner celebrate while opponenent is out KO'd?

    I think it's too big of an adrenalin rush to simply stop to celebrate for a second. If you're at a football (soccer) match and your team scores a goal, no one in the crowd bothers to check if the goal has been allowed, they just go crazy, it's natural human instinct.

    Saying that, pac man did initally go to offer Hatton help or even see if he was ok, but Kenny pushed him out of the way and sent him back to his corner if I remember rightly.

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    Default Re: Should winner celebrate while opponenent is out KO'd?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    That was Jim Watt from the Sky commentary team. I can confidently say he would have said the same thing had the roles been reversed. I can recall him making similar comments many times over the years.

    I too thought Manny should have cooled the celebration until Hatton was at least sitting up.
    I agree with this.

    I Don't hold anything against Manny for celebrating but still think he should have cooled it a bit.
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    Default Re: Should winner celebrate while opponenent is out KO'd?

    I seem to vaguely recall seeing Roach in an aftermath interview and he said one think that the cameras didn't. And that is that Pacquiao when to the hospital to check on Hatton before he did anything else, it could have been De La Hoya. I didn't read or hear that anywhere else. He was making a comment on the man and not the fighter.
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    I would celebrate.....I'd go over to my opponent and do this while he was sleeping



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    Quote Originally Posted by Kel View Post
    There is no better feeling than knocking out your opponent, it's only natural to throw your arms up and take it all in. I don't think Pac knew how bad Hatton was hurt, he was just celebrating with his fans.

    I remember a black female boxer knocking out an opponent and dancing about like a complete fucktard, I just cringed watching her, I'm sure many of you know who I'm talking about I did a quick google but found no name or video.
    You're thinking of Anne Wolf after taking out Vonda Ward. She was doing the pelvic thrust while Ward was getting oxygen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kel View Post
    There is no better feeling than knocking out your opponent, it's only natural to throw your arms up and take it all in. I don't think Pac knew how bad Hatton was hurt, he was just celebrating with his fans.

    I remember a black female boxer knocking out an opponent and dancing about like a complete fucktard, I just cringed watching her, I'm sure many of you know who I'm talking about I did a quick google but found no name or video.
    You're thinking of Anne Wolf after taking out Vonda Ward. She was doing the pelvic thrust while Ward was getting oxygen.
    Yeah that's the one killersheep, it was a good KO I remember that, devastating in fact but the way she acted was terrible to watch.

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    Default Re: Should winner celebrate while opponenent is out KO'd?

    You can't stop a victor from celebrating, it is by nature a reflexive and instinctive reaction.

    Having said that, there are many ways and many levels of this exercise that can be viewed as excessive. In this, as per the case on hand, I would say it as justified and none of the callous variety as insinuated.

    When the celebratory actions were made, the extent and severity of the KO have yet to fully manifest itself . And when done so, it was only as a "reaction", and only a short and brief exclaim then afterwards a prayer. This was on top of Manny Pacquiao's prayers in every pre-fight for the safety and deliverance of them both.

    To see this as anything else, as a slight or an insensitive display of behavior is parallel to seeing beyond what is really there.

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    Default Re: Should winner celebrate while opponenent is out KO'd?

    I agree with most of the posts so far.. KO'ing your opponent is the ultimate victory..

    They stepped in the ring knowing that they could be knocked out cold, it's not like KO'ing someone is something that rarely happens in boxing..

    With that said, most boxers have enough class to show some attention to the opponent that they just knocked out shortly after their celebration.

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