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    I think PAC can defeat Berto at 147... Berto sucks...
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    Berto not the worthy for a pac opponent!!! Pac doesn't need to waste time. I think Ortiz will give him his 1st loss.
    Berto is just for PAC's 7th division title... I agree, many will protest if PAC fights Berto at 147 and not Mosley, Cotto or Clottey...
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    What upset me about Berto's performance was everytime he landed a significant blow he didn't really follow it up. It was like he said to himself, "nice shot, now let's dance around a bit."

    The holding bothered me as well. But on the other hand, Berto's handspeed is SERIOUS! He threw that lead left hook with his hands down faster than anyone I've ever seen.

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    I think PAC can defeat Berto at 147... Berto sucks...
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    Berto not the worthy for a pac opponent!!! Pac doesn't need to waste time. I think Ortiz will give him his 1st loss.
    Berto is just for PAC's 7th division title... I agree, many will protest if PAC fights Berto at 147 and not Mosley, Cotto or Clottey...
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    How the hell did Pacquiao get involved in this thread?!

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    Berto is probably playing it safe, his last fight with Collazo a fighter with 50 percent kayo ratio had him hurt when he traded. He shouldnt have done that against a naturally smaller fighter in Iron Twin though
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    Quote Originally Posted by C-Lo View Post
    What upset me about Berto's performance was everytime he landed a significant blow he didn't really follow it up. It was like he said to himself, "nice shot, now let's dance around a bit."

    The holding bothered me as well. But on the other hand, Berto's handspeed is SERIOUS! He threw that lead left hook with his hands down faster than anyone I've ever seen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pacdbest2 View Post

    Berto not the worthy for a pac opponent!!! Pac doesn't need to waste time. I think Ortiz will give him his 1st loss.
    Berto is just for PAC's 7th division title... I agree, many will protest if PAC fights Berto at 147 and not Mosley, Cotto or Clottey...
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    How the hell did Pacquiao get involved in this thread?!
    My bad... Just exploring the possibility of PAC-Berto fight at 147 if PAC wants to get his 7th weight division title from Berto... Actually there's another thread about that...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Pacdbest2 View Post
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    I think PAC can defeat Berto at 147... Berto sucks...
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    Berto not the worthy for a pac opponent!!! Pac doesn't need to waste time. I think Ortiz will give him his 1st loss.
    Berto is just for PAC's 7th division title... I agree, many will protest if PAC fights Berto at 147 and not Mosley, Cotto or Clottey...
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    Pac need to fight only HOFamers!! Berto will be a forgotten name. 20 years from now, if u ask any casual boxing fans if they knew about Berto, You'll probably get answer like "Berto the Beef Jerky Brand"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pavlik View Post
    Berto is probably playing it safe, his last fight with Collazo a fighter with 50 percent kayo ratio had him hurt when he traded. He shouldnt have done that against a naturally smaller fighter in Iron Twin though
    I think Berto needs more fights before he steps it up to the elite. He easily won the fight with Forbes but it was somewhat competitive. He fought life and death against Collazo who is basically a class under the Mosleys, Cottos, and Mayweathers. His speed will give anyone he fights the fits but he needs more experience. His skills and his heart have already been tested and he's passed, he just not ready yet.

    I think people are hoping Berto turns elite overnight, but it won't happen. Him and his promoter are being smart, nothing more.

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    Berto not the worthy for a pac opponent!!! Pac doesn't need to waste time. I think Ortiz will give him his 1st loss.
    Berto is just for PAC's 7th division title... I agree, many will protest if PAC fights Berto at 147 and not Mosley, Cotto or Clottey...
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    Pac need to fight only HOFamers!! Berto will be a forgotten name. 20 years from now, if u ask any casual boxing fans if they knew about Berto, You'll probably get answer like "Berto the Beef Jerky Brand"
    Just in case there's nothing fruitful will come out from the HOFamers, Berto is an option for PAC... Having attained a 7th division title is also nice for PAC's boxing history... If ever, PAC will become the only boxer in history to get titles in 7 different weight divisions... A record that's very difficult to break...
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer View Post
    I think PAC can defeat Berto at 147... Berto sucks...
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    Is there any thread where you don't mention Pac? Just wondering .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chino View Post
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    I think PAC can defeat Berto at 147... Berto sucks...
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    Is there any thread where you don't mention Pac? Just wondering .
    I already apologized earlier... You're late... Any comment for the "Berto sucks" part??
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    I think he's too damn short for 147 and needs to drop to 140 if possible. He almost looks like he lifts weights. If he does, then he should stop immediately. His fights at 140 are only going to become less and less dominant as time goes on IMO.

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    Berto fights with alot of nervous energy. He needs to calm down a bit in the ring. He could have stopped Juan easy if he held his ground and let his hands go.

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    He's got all the tools to be a great champ, but there are some questions in places. Something I noticed that was off was Berto's balance, he doesn't seem have solid footing when he throws his shots, and if he takes on a good counter puncher he would have some serious problems, but if he can work this out he can hang with just about anyone.

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    Berto is the fight that Cotto needed at this moment to fully regain his confidence, and unify tittles. Cotto would destroy him... I believe that Clottey is a more dangerous fighter today for Cotto compared to Berto.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    I really was expecting a Pacquiao-Diaz type fight, it should be like that, and he's landing a lot, but he isn't dominating like I expected, with his power and speed he should have Urango totally clueless. Also wtf is with the holding, he should be countering so much Urango shouldn't want to come forward, or because Urango is so slow he should be confident with his defense than Juan won't land anything. IMO Berto needs a new trainer, I am not saying that fixes everything, but this guy is teaching him the wrong things, IMO FMSR is perfect for him.
    Berto clearly has the speed and athleticism, but I'm not sure if his power is all that great. He's going to be in for a rude awaking when he get put in with a top level WW. He barely got by Collazo. Even though he won last night, it was against a mediocre fighter who was taylor made for him and he looked terrible doing it.

    A new trainer would probably help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puerto Rican Punch View Post
    Berto is the fight that Cotto needed at this moment to fully regain his confidence, and unify tittles. Cotto would destroy him... I believe that Clottey is a more dangerous fighter today for Cotto compared to Berto.
    I dont think Cotto destroys Berto. Berto is a slick fast fighter with very good stamina. I think his quick combos will trouble cotto and Berto has some pop on those shots, he rocked Juan a couple times last night......

    Cotto has had stamina issues and I think Berto would pose problems for Cotto with his lateral movement and fast hands.....

    I would give Cotto a points victory at this point but Berto will have his moments....

    Berto just needs to calm down in the ring and trust his abilities. He will only get better.

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