Are all the best American Boxers in the NFL and NBA?

[ElTerribleMorales]

Paralysis hardly ever happens, it does occur, but still way lower stats than boxing has for permanent brain damage. ALso if you've sparred a day in YOUR life, you would know that people don't always take it easy sparring, especially if you've ever gotten ready for a competition, sure you are wearing 16oz. gloves, but you still feel it, if the person has any technique or power whatsoever. But you probably shadowbox with gloves on, or you've obviously never done inter-gym sparring sessions or real sparring.

i've been boxing since i was 8 yrs old, plenty of sparring and no way do you hit as hard in sparring as you do in an actual fight, even if an Amateur fight, i didn't pursue boxing as a career or anything but did have my share of Am fights, don't think i can say the same about you though, and for the record, here in PR we basically start out with pro-style training, obviously you start with the fundamentals but we're basically taught a style to move on to pros, that's why PR isn't really huge on the amateur circuit

[Kel]

They all wear pads, it's rugby with protection. I'd love to see them all without all that padding and helmets, they would pussy out of big tackles everytime.

[ElTerribleMorales]

They all wear pads, it's rugby with protection. I'd love to see them all without all that padding and helmets, they would pussy out of big tackles everytime.

lmao gotta give you rep, but for whatever reason cant lol so i'm gonna have to give you a rain check, but you're dead on

[Kel]

By the way, all the best American heavyweight boxers are doing sod all

[generalbulldog]

They all wear pads, it's rugby with protection. I'd love to see them all without all that padding and helmets, they would pussy out of big tackles everytime.

And I agree with you. But most Americans don't even know what Rugby is, they don't even understand that American Football is the bastard child of Rugby but with pads. But it's considered the most hardcore sport to them.

This discussion isn't about whether boxing or American football is tougher, but it's boxing hands down. The recovery time for a boxing match is anywhere from a few weeks to months, while the NFL is 1 week.

[Taeth]

They all wear pads, it's rugby with protection. I'd love to see them all without all that padding and helmets, they would pussy out of big tackles everytime.

maybe you should try playing football, there is no way you can tackle like that if oyu weren't wearing pads, in highschool there were many dislocated shoudlers because your body can't take hitting somebody htat hard without pads, the contact PSI is about 3x as hard as an average pro heavyweight, I believe its around 3500 psi, which is as powerful as crocodile closing its mouth.

[El Kabong]

Enough about rugby, I'm an American, I know about rugby, and it's like football the same way bareknuckle boxing is the same as today's boxing. Football IS a hardcore sport...the pads only encourage you to hit harder. The forward pass and other football plays also create higher impact collisions than rugby. If you lined up our greatest football players against your greatest rugby players and told them to play rugby or football, we'd clean your clocks....and I'm not talking about just the Greatest English Rugby Players or the Greatest Australian Rugby Players, I'm talking about THE Greatest Rugby Players regardless of what country they came from....that ought to stir the pot a bit

As per the American heavyweights, I think the amateur boxing system just got a little too full of itself and got lazy when it came to recruiting talented young fighters. Not every good American heavyweight is doing something else, there are DECENT American heavyweights who didn't get the training they needed to become good, there are guys out there right now who could have been trained up into something pretty good. Our problem right now is our guys get into boxing too late or they burn out too soon.

[robinswe01]

A difference between Football and rugby is fitness. Football players are nowhere near as fit. They play for 10 seconds and have a minute break. Rugby players play for 40 minutes straight, have a 10 - 15 minute break and play another 40 minutes.
As football players stop every 10 seconds it gives them time to plan moves and for the other team to set up their defence. In rugby you need to work to get back if you are in defence. You also have to support you own team mates when they get tackled as if you don’t you’ll lose the ball.
Rugby is far superior IMO.

As for the boxing, it is probably true. There is more money to be made in football then boxing. Its only the super star boxers who make more money that football players.

PS
Jonah lomu would have been an ATG if he had played football. Look him up. 6' 6". 125 KG (20st). 100m in 10.88.

[Kel]

They all wear pads, it's rugby with protection. I'd love to see them all without all that padding and helmets, they would pussy out of big tackles everytime.

maybe you should try playing football, there is no way you can tackle like that if oyu weren't wearing pads, in highschool there were many dislocated shoudlers because your body can't take hitting somebody htat hard without pads, the contact PSI is about 3x as hard as an average pro heavyweight, I believe its around 3500 psi, which is as powerful as crocodile closing its mouth.

It's a good job they are not covered in teeth then they would hurt each other.

[AGM]

What I never understand about these types of statements is it always seems to be exclusively America's problem... As if there aren't any other sports in the world that might be taking away from other nations' boxing?!

[Taeth]

Paralysis hardly ever happens, it does occur, but still way lower stats than boxing has for permanent brain damage. ALso if you've sparred a day in YOUR life, you would know that people don't always take it easy sparring, especially if you've ever gotten ready for a competition, sure you are wearing 16oz. gloves, but you still feel it, if the person has any technique or power whatsoever. But you probably shadowbox with gloves on, or you've obviously never done inter-gym sparring sessions or real sparring.

i've been boxing since i was 8 yrs old, plenty of sparring and no way do you hit as hard in sparring as you do in an actual fight, even if an Amateur fight, i didn't pursue boxing as a career or anything but did have my share of Am fights, don't think i can say the same about you though, and for the record, here in PR we basically start out with pro-style training, obviously you start with the fundamentals but we're basically taught a style to move on to pros, that's why PR isn't really huge on the amateur circuit

I don't know who you were fighitng with, I know people are tough in PR, but if you sparred with anybody half decent, and they feel like going hard, then you definitely have wars, and the difference is that they don't last 3-4 rounds like an amateur fight, and they aren't 2-3 minute rounds, I've had times where we've gone 8-10 hard rounds with guys. Its obviously different htan a real fight because you don't have the adrenaline going the same, way and you know the fighter and so you feel more comfortable, but we still hit go hard.

[Rantcatrat]

To get back to the point of the post, it may be true for the heavyweights and to a lesser extent the cruiser weights, but not true for any weight class below. There are very few players in the NFL who weigh less than 190 pounds. No one fighting at welterweight, middleweight, or super middleweight would have been big enough to play in the NFL or the NBA.

[Hunter]

Boxing gyms are hard to come by these days in the states, with the other sports they are shoved down your throat in High School. Unless boxing runs in your family like Mayweather, Roy Jones, Berto you are very unlikely to take the sport up seriously.

[ono]

Judging by the brawl between Indiana and Detroit i'd say no.