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    Default Re: How is Donaire ahead of Williams, Haye, Dawson etc?

    Master Bilbo has a very valid question here for some (like Dawson, Williams) but not all of the boxers he cited that "should" be above Donaire...

    I think Donaire deserves his #7 spot... The thing is, we only have 10 slots available for the Top Ten P4P List (why there's no tie to accomodate more boxers )... These boxers in the top 5 to 15 do have very close accomplishments and resume and ranking them does take very tedious process... Then you can add up subjectivity and you get a total headache...

    Off-topic: Is there anyone here questioning why Israel Vazquez still having his #5 P4P slot even with more than 1 year of inactivity??
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    Default Re: How is Donaire ahead of Williams, Haye, Dawson etc?

    I would be surprised if either Vazquez or Marquez look like top five P4P guys from here on out. They're both getting a bit up there (especially in "ring years" if you will as far as how much punishment they've taken) and I think they're best days are past. But we'll see. As far as the inactivity, I don't know, I guess you have to be consistent about that, one year doesn't sound like too much for a guy who was an established P4P guy. Its starting to push it though.

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    Default Re: How is Donaire ahead of Williams, Haye, Dawson etc?

    Quote Originally Posted by XaduBoxer View Post
    Master Bilbo has a very valid question here for some (like Dawson, Williams) but not all of the boxers he cited that "should" be above Donaire...

    I think Donaire deserves his #7 spot... The thing is, we only have 10 slots available for the Top Ten P4P List (why there's no tie to accomodate more boxers )... These boxers in the top 5 to 15 do have very close accomplishments and resume and ranking them does take very tedious process... Then you can add up subjectivity and you get a total headache...

    Off-topic: Is there anyone here questioning why Israel Vazquez still having his #5 P4P slot even with more than 1 year of inactivity??
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    I think we just ran off some lurker/potential new member types.

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    Default Re: How is Donaire ahead of Williams, Haye, Dawson etc?

    Quote Originally Posted by OumaFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by XaduBoxer View Post
    Master Bilbo has a very valid question here for some (like Dawson, Williams) but not all of the boxers he cited that "should" be above Donaire...

    I think Donaire deserves his #7 spot... The thing is, we only have 10 slots available for the Top Ten P4P List (why there's no tie to accomodate more boxers )... These boxers in the top 5 to 15 do have very close accomplishments and resume and ranking them does take very tedious process... Then you can add up subjectivity and you get a total headache...

    Off-topic: Is there anyone here questioning why Israel Vazquez still having his #5 P4P slot even with more than 1 year of inactivity??
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    I think we just ran off some lurker/potential new member types.
    Ha ha That's how I addressed my friend Mr. Bilbo, I mean Master Bilbo ever since... He doesn't comment about it tho... He likes it very much I guess... My Master, My Lord... great sounding...
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    Last edited by XaduBoxer; 06-17-2009 at 04:24 AM.

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    Default Re: How is Donaire ahead of Williams, Haye, Dawson etc?

    Quote Originally Posted by XaduBoxer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by OumaFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by XaduBoxer View Post
    Master Bilbo has a very valid question here for some (like Dawson, Williams) but not all of the boxers he cited that "should" be above Donaire...

    I think Donaire deserves his #7 spot... The thing is, we only have 10 slots available for the Top Ten P4P List (why there's no tie to accomodate more boxers )... These boxers in the top 5 to 15 do have very close accomplishments and resume and ranking them does take very tedious process... Then you can add up subjectivity and you get a total headache...

    Off-topic: Is there anyone here questioning why Israel Vazquez still having his #5 P4P slot even with more than 1 year of inactivity??
    .
    I think we just ran off some lurker/potential new member types.
    Ha ha That's how I addressed my friend Mr. Bilbo, I mean Master Bilbo ever since... He doesn't comment about it tho... He likes it very much I guess... My Master, My Lord... great sounding...
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    oh, ok, that explains it.

    I'm sure Bilbo does like it very much.

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    Default Re: How is Donaire ahead of Williams, Haye, Dawson etc?

    im one of the only guys on saddos that is naive enough to believe those below 5`5 are better fighters just because they can throw more punches and produce the better fights.

    Vitali Klitschko shits all over the likes of calderon, vasquez, donaire yet you never see him in the rankings because they are complete byest for the littler guys and have been for the last 10 years now.
    one dangerous horrible bloke

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    Default Re: How is Donaire ahead of Williams, Haye, Dawson etc?

    Donaire is 5'6". Some believe he's actually 5'8". Lol! He's opponents looks like dwarf everytime he's fighting.

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    Default Re: How is Donaire ahead of Williams, Haye, Dawson etc?

    Quote Originally Posted by Quinito View Post
    Donaire is 5'6". Some believe he's actually 5'8". Lol! He's opponents looks like dwarf everytime he's fighting.
    How is that relevant to this discussion?

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    Default Re: How is Donaire ahead of Williams, Haye, Dawson etc?

    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
    im one of the only guys on saddos that is naive enough to believe those below 5`5 are better fighters just because they can throw more punches and produce the better fights.

    Vitali Klitschko shits all over the likes of calderon, vasquez, donaire yet you never see him in the rankings because they are complete byest for the littler guys and have been for the last 10 years now.
    I don't mean to argue semantics but that might make them more exciting fighters, not better ones. Excitement should play no role in selecting a P4P list in my mind.

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    Default Re: How is Donaire ahead of Williams, Haye, Dawson etc?

    Quote Originally Posted by OumaFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by XaduBoxer View Post
    Master Bilbo has a very valid question here for some (like Dawson, Williams) but not all of the boxers he cited that "should" be above Donaire...

    I think Donaire deserves his #7 spot... The thing is, we only have 10 slots available for the Top Ten P4P List (why there's no tie to accomodate more boxers )... These boxers in the top 5 to 15 do have very close accomplishments and resume and ranking them does take very tedious process... Then you can add up subjectivity and you get a total headache...

    Off-topic: Is there anyone here questioning why Israel Vazquez still having his #5 P4P slot even with more than 1 year of inactivity??
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    I think we just ran off some lurker/potential new member types.
    haha I pissed myself when I read that

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