Calzaghe WILL fight again for £10/$16 million

[Fenster]

I agree with all that.

Finishing off with a really old Hopkins and a way past it Jones Jr just left me feeling that Joe was cashing out too easily. I would really have liked a final fight against someone young just to hammer home a point about how good he was. Nobody was impressed when the Jones fight was signed really.

Hopkins schooled Pavlik to pieces though remember. JC for me deserves top credit for beatin Hopkins. Hopkins is still an elite fighter no doubt. I think he would have hammered Dawson too, just like he beat Lacy.....

The problem is almost all people I know who're not big Calzaghe fans feel he lost that fight, and despite him being one of my favourites I felt he did too All that fight did was convince people that if an old Hopkins could do that, imagine what Hopkins from about 2001-2004 could have done. Joe would of schooled Pavlik like he did Lacy though, but no way does he beat Dawson like Lacy. Lacy's weaknesses were apparent to everyone not desperate for some kind of Tyson reincarnation, the best he'd beaten was Robin Reid. Whereas Dawson has beaten Adamek & Glen Johnson at the point that fight could have been made. Whilst I think Joe would have beaten him, no way is it like Lacy.

How many people are you talking about? I think only a minority think Hopkins won that fight. Polls on here and many other sites all strongly favoured Calzaghe.. ESPECIALLY at the time of the fight.

[JazMerkin]

Hopkins schooled Pavlik to pieces though remember. JC for me deserves top credit for beatin Hopkins. Hopkins is still an elite fighter no doubt. I think he would have hammered Dawson too, just like he beat Lacy.....

The problem is almost all people I know who're not big Calzaghe fans feel he lost that fight, and despite him being one of my favourites I felt he did too All that fight did was convince people that if an old Hopkins could do that, imagine what Hopkins from about 2001-2004 could have done. Joe would of schooled Pavlik like he did Lacy though, but no way does he beat Dawson like Lacy. Lacy's weaknesses were apparent to everyone not desperate for some kind of Tyson reincarnation, the best he'd beaten was Robin Reid. Whereas Dawson has beaten Adamek & Glen Johnson at the point that fight could have been made. Whilst I think Joe would have beaten him, no way is it like Lacy.

How many people are you talking about? I think only a minority think Hopkins won that fight. Polls on here and many other sites all strongly favoured Calzaghe.. ESPECIALLY at the time of the fight.

Everyone at my gym, and tbh most of the posters that I have seen comment on it on here. I wasn't around at the time of the fight, but those I've seen mention it have generally said they feel Calzaghe lost, or they display they are big Joe fans by going on about 'Hopkins cheating, being boring etc etc', which for me is immaterial for how I score a fight

[Mar]

16 mill. Ha ha yea right joe. Get the fuck outta here.

[Fenster]

The problem is almost all people I know who're not big Calzaghe fans feel he lost that fight, and despite him being one of my favourites I felt he did too All that fight did was convince people that if an old Hopkins could do that, imagine what Hopkins from about 2001-2004 could have done. Joe would of schooled Pavlik like he did Lacy though, but no way does he beat Dawson like Lacy. Lacy's weaknesses were apparent to everyone not desperate for some kind of Tyson reincarnation, the best he'd beaten was Robin Reid. Whereas Dawson has beaten Adamek & Glen Johnson at the point that fight could have been made. Whilst I think Joe would have beaten him, no way is it like Lacy.

How many people are you talking about? I think only a minority think Hopkins won that fight. Polls on here and many other sites all strongly favoured Calzaghe.. ESPECIALLY at the time of the fight.

Everyone at my gym, and tbh most of the posters that I have seen comment on it on here. I wasn't around at the time of the fight, but those I've seen mention it have generally said they feel Calzaghe lost, or they display they are big Joe fans by going on about 'Hopkins cheating, being boring etc etc', which for me is immaterial for how I score a fight

Nah.. there's no way MOST on here think Calzaghe lost. The Calzaghe haters turn up in any thread about him, so that's probably what makes it look like what it's not.

There's a poll on here, if i can find it

[Britkid]

He's doing stricktly come dancing on BBC1 soon too...

Gonna make a proper tit out of himself

A smart move....

My Mum loves this show, if he can survive a few weeks, he will become a pretty big household name to an audience that has probably never heard of him.

I think Tszyu did it in Australia and made quite a name for himself.....

As for his tongue in cheek remark, perhaps if you added another nought to that £10 Million, then it would be worth the effort!

[Fenster]

There's a bigger poll than this somewhere but still ...

http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...won-fight.html

[littlebif]

There's a bigger poll than this somewhere but still ...

http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...won-fight.html

must of missed that poll,Calzaghe edged it by 2 rounds for me.

[Fenster]

There's a bigger poll than this somewhere but still ...

http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...won-fight.html

must of missed that poll,Calzaghe edged it by 2 rounds for me.

There's a bigger poll with different names where Calzaghe is winning by a landslide (can't find it).

Just about every major boxing site had Calzaghe winning by a huge margin.

[ICB]

I had Bernard Hopkins winning by 1 point, too much was made of the amount of punches Joe Calzaghe landed.

It was obvious before the fight he would land more punches, but i expected him to be more effective with his punches.

And i was pretty shocked how ineffective Joe Calzaghe's punches were. I would rate one clean effective punch from Bernard Hopkins, over 10 of Joe Calzaghe's glancing slapping punches.

Most of Joe Calzaghe's punches were very ineffective, he struggled to land a solid blow all night long. I mean can anyone tell me how many effective punches you think Joe Calzaghe landed ?

[Britkid]

I had Bernard Hopkins winning by 1 point, too much was made of the amount of punches Joe Calzaghe landed.

It was obvious before the fight he would land more punches

Is that not like saying, it was pretty obvious before the fight Tyson was going to knock out Julius Francis, so if he did, it should not count?

[ICB]

I had Bernard Hopkins winning by 1 point, too much was made of the amount of punches Joe Calzaghe landed.

It was obvious before the fight he would land more punches

Is that not like saying, it was pretty obvious before the fight Tyson was going to knock out Julius Francis, so if he did, it should not count?

I don't really get what your saying BK, if you read my whole post. I said i knew Joe Calzaghe was going to land more punches.

But i expected him to land more effective punches than he did. I know he slaps alot but i atleast expected him to land more clean punches than he did.

Thats why he lost the fight IMO, Bernard Hopkins landed the better more effective punches. He was also able to get Joe Calzaghe out of his rhythm for quite alot of the fight, and he also scored the knockdown which is why i think Bernard Hopkins edged it.

[Britkid]

I had Bernard Hopkins winning by 1 point, too much was made of the amount of punches Joe Calzaghe landed.

It was obvious before the fight he would land more punches

Is that not like saying, it was pretty obvious before the fight Tyson was going to knock out Julius Francis, so if he did, it should not count?

I don't really get what your saying BK, if you read my whole post. I said i knew Joe Calzaghe was going to land more punches.

But i expected him to land more effective punches than he did. I know he slaps a lot but i atleast expected him to land more clean punches than he did.

Thats why he lost the fight IMO, Bernard Hopkins landed the better more effective punches. He was also able to get Joe Calzaghe out of his rhythm for quite alot of the fight, and he also scored the knockdown which is why i think Bernard Hopkins edged it.

Calzaghe won because he was more crafty than the King of Craft Hopkins.

Hopkins was fighting in his home country so was always going to get any benefit of doubt the judges had.

Calzaghe out smarted him, by looking the busier and more spectacular, even if all the punches were not landing correctly or indeed if they were landing at all!

Hopkins just did not have the pace of the fight right and Joe took advantage.

For an American to moan he was robbed by the judges fighting a Brit in the States is kind of at least pushing, if not out right taking the piss!

[TheDemolitionDan]

If Calzaghe had fought Pavlik instead of Hopkins.After Calzaghe had outboxed him to claim a UD people would of just said what they did against Lacy that he was overrated,and Pavlik stepped up.

Calzaghe will never get the respect he deserves.

Exactly, it doesn't matter who Super Joe Calzaghe faces he won't ever get any respect, especially here in the States, but I do no he was a great fight an All-Time Great.

[ICB]

Is that not like saying, it was pretty obvious before the fight Tyson was going to knock out Julius Francis, so if he did, it should not count?

I don't really get what your saying BK, if you read my whole post. I said i knew Joe Calzaghe was going to land more punches.

But i expected him to land more effective punches than he did. I know he slaps a lot but i atleast expected him to land more clean punches than he did.

Thats why he lost the fight IMO, Bernard Hopkins landed the better more effective punches. He was also able to get Joe Calzaghe out of his rhythm for quite alot of the fight, and he also scored the knockdown which is why i think Bernard Hopkins edged it.

Calzaghe won because he was more crafty than the King of Craft Hopkins.

Hopkins was fighting in his home country so was always going to get any benefit of doubt the judges had.

Calzaghe out smarted him, by looking the busier and more spectacular, even if all the punches were not landing correctly or indeed if they were landing at all!

Hopkins just did not have the pace of the fight right and Joe took advantage.

For an American to moan he was robbed by the judges fighting a Brit in the States is kind of at least pushing, if not out right taking the piss!

Joe Calzaghe more crafty than Bernard Hopkins ? i don't think so somehow. Bernard Hopkins was making Joe Calzaghe miss all night long. And he was able to smartly gain time to recover in the late rounds by being very crafty.

I don't really see how just throwing non effective punches, is out-smarting Bernard Hopkins. Joe Calzaghe always throws alot of punches, what he did in this fight was no difference to what he has done in the past.

I think Bernard Hopkins was out smarting Joe Calzaghe by gaining time, making him off balance an clinching to get Joe Calzaghe out of his rhythm.

You just said it yourself Joe Calzaghe missed alot of punches, and the ones he did land were not effective.

So why did you score the fight for Joe Calzaghe then ? because with that logic you would of had Sam Soliman beating Winky Wright, because he threw 1000 punches right ?

Im not really getting what your saying BK, because all you've proved to me so far is that you only thought Joe Calzaghe won based on workrate. But boxing is far more complicated than just letting your arms go as you know.

Bernard Hopkins was excellent defensively, he was able to make it his kind of fight. For a majority of the fight. He landed the cleaner more effective punches, and he scored a knockdown. So shouldn't Bernard Hopkins be credited for all the things above ?

As for your last comment im not sure if your on about me, but im English and im from London. And i never said the fight was a robbery. I had Bernard Hopkins winning by 1 point, i just didn't like Joe Calzaghe's work. It was sloppy and his punches were ineffective.

[Britkid]

I don't really get what your saying BK, if you read my whole post. I said i knew Joe Calzaghe was going to land more punches.

But i expected him to land more effective punches than he did. I know he slaps a lot but i atleast expected him to land more clean punches than he did.

Thats why he lost the fight IMO, Bernard Hopkins landed the better more effective punches. He was also able to get Joe Calzaghe out of his rhythm for quite alot of the fight, and he also scored the knockdown which is why i think Bernard Hopkins edged it.

Calzaghe won because he was more crafty than the King of Craft Hopkins.

Hopkins was fighting in his home country so was always going to get any benefit of doubt the judges had.

Calzaghe out smarted him, by looking the busier and more spectacular, even if all the punches were not landing correctly or indeed if they were landing at all!

Hopkins just did not have the pace of the fight right and Joe took advantage.

For an American to moan he was robbed by the judges fighting a Brit in the States is kind of at least pushing, if not out right taking the piss!

Joe Calzaghe more crafty than Bernard Hopkins ? i don't think so somehow. Bernard Hopkins was making Joe Calzaghe miss all night long. And he was able to smartly gain time to recover in the late rounds by being very crafty.

Well then how comes Hopkins did not get the decision? Calzaghe outsmarted him, he knew what the judges wanted and Hopkins fought the wrong fight, the scores say Joe was too crafty for him.

Hopkins nine times out of ten delivers what is needed, but Joe was too good for him and still won despite losing a 10/8 round.

Luckily for Hopkins, Joe is one of the few with at least the equal of Hopkins boxing brain, because Calzaghe is that good, not Hopkins that bad.

Calzaghe went to America and beat their best 175lber IMO. What is more, he got off the floor to win on points, that is simply brilliant, a virtually unheard of feat for a Brit in the Americas.