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    Default Re: Calzaghe WILL fight again for £10/$16 million

    hopkins had more speed than calzaghe and still lost decisively. Calzaghe would have taken pavlik to the woodshed and possibly even knocked him out in 8 or fewer rounds.

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    Hopkins is never a guy who does that well with judges, and one of the key reasons that he was going to struggle on the judges cards that night was the stupid comment about never losing to a white boy. So the whole 'Calzaghe is British & still got a decision' means nothing, because if you want to go along that route you could argue that the race issue equally played a role.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    Hopkins is never a guy who does that well with judges, and one of the key reasons that he was going to struggle on the judges cards that night was the stupid comment about never losing to a white boy. So the whole 'Calzaghe is British & still got a decision' means nothing, because if you want to go along that route you could argue that the race issue equally played a role.
    So the judges favoured Calzaghe because he's white?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    Hopkins is never a guy who does that well with judges, and one of the key reasons that he was going to struggle on the judges cards that night was the stupid comment about never losing to a white boy. So the whole 'Calzaghe is British & still got a decision' means nothing, because if you want to go along that route you could argue that the race issue equally played a role.
    So the judges favoured Calzaghe because he's white?
    No, that's not at all what I said, they MAY have favoured him because of the dickhead comment Hopkins made. It's as good an argument as 'Calzaghe's British so it was all against him', because Calzaghe had enough of Warren's money behind him to ensure he wasn't going to get shafted. In fact, I'd like to hear of a single Brit other than Lewis against Holyfield who has been screwed by the judges against a US fighter in America in recent years, maybe I'm missing someone

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    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    Hopkins is never a guy who does that well with judges, and one of the key reasons that he was going to struggle on the judges cards that night was the stupid comment about never losing to a white boy. So the whole 'Calzaghe is British & still got a decision' means nothing, because if you want to go along that route you could argue that the race issue equally played a role.
    So the judges favoured Calzaghe because he's white?
    No, that's not at all what I said, they MAY have favoured him because of the dickhead comment Hopkins made. It's as good an argument as 'Calzaghe's British so it was all against him', because Calzaghe had enough of Warren's money behind him to ensure he wasn't going to get shafted. In fact, I'd like to hear of a single Brit other than Lewis against Holyfield who has been screwed by the judges against a US fighter in America in recent years, maybe I'm missing someone
    Right.. but thats like saying Adalaide Byrd (the black American judge) MAY have favoured Hopkins the black American.. considering the other two judges and the MAJORITY of people that watched the fight scored it for Calzaghe.

    Warren has more clout than Golden Boy?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
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    So the judges favoured Calzaghe because he's white?
    No, that's not at all what I said, they MAY have favoured him because of the dickhead comment Hopkins made. It's as good an argument as 'Calzaghe's British so it was all against him', because Calzaghe had enough of Warren's money behind him to ensure he wasn't going to get shafted. In fact, I'd like to hear of a single Brit other than Lewis against Holyfield who has been screwed by the judges against a US fighter in America in recent years, maybe I'm missing someone
    Right.. but thats like saying Adalaide Byrd (the black American judge) MAY have favoured Hopkins the black American.. considering the other two judges and the MAJORITY of people that watched the fight scored it for Calzaghe.

    Warren has more clout than Golden Boy?
    Jesus, I DIDN'T say they favoured Joe because he & they are white, I said it's because of the comment that Hopkins made. Let's put it this way if Alan Minter said what he did about Hagler today, who would you put your money on if it went to the cards regardless of the colour of the judges?

    And no I didn't say Warren has more clout than GBP, but he has enough to ensure his fighter probably won't get screwed over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
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    No, that's not at all what I said, they MAY have favoured him because of the dickhead comment Hopkins made. It's as good an argument as 'Calzaghe's British so it was all against him', because Calzaghe had enough of Warren's money behind him to ensure he wasn't going to get shafted. In fact, I'd like to hear of a single Brit other than Lewis against Holyfield who has been screwed by the judges against a US fighter in America in recent years, maybe I'm missing someone
    Right.. but thats like saying Adalaide Byrd (the black American judge) MAY have favoured Hopkins the black American.. considering the other two judges and the MAJORITY of people that watched the fight scored it for Calzaghe.

    Warren has more clout than Golden Boy?
    Jesus, I DIDN'T say they favoured Joe because he & they are white, I said it's because of the comment that Hopkins made. Let's put it this way if Alan Minter said what he did about Hagler today, who would you put your money on if it went to the cards regardless of the colour of the judges?

    And no I didn't say Warren has more clout than GBP, but he has enough to ensure his fighter probably won't get screwed over.
    The argument that "Calzaghe is British and still got the decision" is simply refering to a fighter in the other guys backyard. Whether it be America, Britain, Germany or wherever, it's a given the HOME fighter will be favoured. (i'm sure Britkid will also give you a history of robberies )

    I don't see how that compares with a fighter being favoured because of skin colour over racial remarks. Maybe if they got the Ku klux clan to judge it you'd have a point.

    Calzaghe won a close fight fair and square. Simple as.
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    Default Re: Calzaghe WILL fight again for £10/$16 million

    Hopkins defeated Calzaghe. Sorry but I am more of a 'quality' guy than a 'quantity' when I score a fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quinito View Post
    Hopkins defeated Calzaghe. Sorry but I am more of a 'quality' guy than a 'quantity' when I score a fight.
    I echo this comment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Quinito View Post
    Hopkins defeated Calzaghe. Sorry but I am more of a 'quality' guy than a 'quantity' when I score a fight.
    I echo this comment.
    And you were both wrong.
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