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    Default Re: Why people won't hate on Miguel Cotto for fighting Manny Pacquiao

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    Pacster would have beat Hatton at any time of Hatton's career. Watch the Magee fight.

    Oscar was a shriveled mess, yes, but that doesn't mean any fighter would have slaughtered him the way Pacster did.

    You're the excuses king, ICB, don't try and make out you wont be making excuses.
    Didn't i just say Manny Pacquiao would of beaten any version of Ricky Hatton ? but you can't just base that on one performance.

    ODLH was rubbish in that fight any top 147 pound fighter, would of beaten ODLH like a red headed step child. ODLH hasn't fought at Welterweight since 2001 agaisnt Arturo Gatti, and the last time he was below 146 was in 1997 against Miguel Angel Gonzalez, if that isn't proof enough i don't know what is.

    You know it and i know it, don't try and make out that Manny Pacquiao, is the only fighter that would of beaten a weight drained ODLH like that.

    Because that is reaching just to try and prove your point, when the fact is ODLH was rubbish and he was rubbish in sparring aswell. Getting the crap knocked out of him by the smaller Victor Ortiz.

    Im the king of excuses since when ? i give fighters credit but if there is circumstances surronding a certain fight. Then yes i will point it out like everyone else does on here.
    Prove my point? I don't have to prove anything. You're the one claiming Pacster's wins are tainted.

    For you to be right, you must PROVE any other top 147 fighter would have done as good a job as Pacster. Can you prove that? No you can't, because no other 147 fighter fought Oscar that night. So you're wrong. Fact.

    You deal with suppostion, I deal with the facts.
    Actually your wrong again how is it a "Fact" that no one else would of done that to ODLH ?

    Its your opinion no one else wouldn't have, like its my opinion plenty of fighters could.

    I've backed my comments up with facts, like its a fact that ODLH hasn't fought at Welterweight since he fought Arturo Gatti in 2001. Its a fact he hasn't been below 146 pounds since he fought Miguel Angel Gonzalez in 1997 over a decade.

    Its a fact in sparring before the Manny Pacquiao fight, he got beat up by the smaller Victor Ortiz. Its a fact in the fight previous to the Manny Pacquiao fight.

    He was marked up by the smaller Steve Forbes. Its a fact it was ODLH's worst performance of his career against Manny Pacquiao, its a fact he was badly weight drained.

    And its a very strong opinion backed up by solid facts of the past, that most of the elite Welterweights. Would of beaten ODLH without too much trouble.
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    Default Re: Why people won't hate on Miguel Cotto for fighting Manny Pacquiao

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    Didn't i just say Manny Pacquiao would of beaten any version of Ricky Hatton ? but you can't just base that on one performance.

    ODLH was rubbish in that fight any top 147 pound fighter, would of beaten ODLH like a red headed step child. ODLH hasn't fought at Welterweight since 2001 agaisnt Arturo Gatti, and the last time he was below 146 was in 1997 against Miguel Angel Gonzalez, if that isn't proof enough i don't know what is.

    You know it and i know it, don't try and make out that Manny Pacquiao, is the only fighter that would of beaten a weight drained ODLH like that.

    Because that is reaching just to try and prove your point, when the fact is ODLH was rubbish and he was rubbish in sparring aswell. Getting the crap knocked out of him by the smaller Victor Ortiz.

    Im the king of excuses since when ? i give fighters credit but if there is circumstances surronding a certain fight. Then yes i will point it out like everyone else does on here.
    Prove my point? I don't have to prove anything. You're the one claiming Pacster's wins are tainted.

    For you to be right, you must PROVE any other top 147 fighter would have done as good a job as Pacster. Can you prove that? No you can't, because no other 147 fighter fought Oscar that night. So you're wrong. Fact.

    You deal with suppostion, I deal with the facts.
    Actually your wrong again how is it a "Fact" that no one else would of done that to ODLH ?

    Its your opinion no one else wouldn't have, like its my opinion plenty of fighters could.

    I've backed my comments up with facts, like its a fact that ODLH hasn't fought at Welterweight since he fought Arturo Gatti in 2001. Its a fact he hasn't been below 146 pounds since he fought Miguel Angel Gonzalez in 1997 over a decade.

    Its a fact in sparring before the Manny Pacquiao fight, he got beat up by the smaller Victor Ortiz. Its a fact in the fight previous to the Manny Pacquiao fight.

    He was marked up by the smaller Steve Forbes. Its a fact it was ODLH's worst performance of his career against Manny Pacquiao, its a fact he was badly weight drained.

    And its a very strong opinion backed up by solid facts of the past, that most of the elite Welterweights. Would of beaten ODLH without too much trouble.
    No.. I never said that. You are confusing yourself. You need to focus on what I am saying.

    Nobody apart from Pacster fought Oscar on the 06-12-2008. That is a fact. Therefore it is impossible to know for a fact that any other fighter would have been more impressive than Pacster. That is a fact.

    You THINK any top fighter at 147 would have beaten Oscar that night. But you can't PROVE it. It's just an OPINION because It's IMPOSSIBLE to prove. That is a fact.

    I too believe other fighters would have beaten Oscar that night. BUT it doesn't mean Pacster's performance should be sullied.
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    Default Re: Why people won't hate on Miguel Cotto for fighting Manny Pacquiao

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    Prove my point? I don't have to prove anything. You're the one claiming Pacster's wins are tainted.

    For you to be right, you must PROVE any other top 147 fighter would have done as good a job as Pacster. Can you prove that? No you can't, because no other 147 fighter fought Oscar that night. So you're wrong. Fact.

    You deal with suppostion, I deal with the facts.
    Actually your wrong again how is it a "Fact" that no one else would of done that to ODLH ?

    Its your opinion no one else wouldn't have, like its my opinion plenty of fighters could.

    I've backed my comments up with facts, like its a fact that ODLH hasn't fought at Welterweight since he fought Arturo Gatti in 2001. Its a fact he hasn't been below 146 pounds since he fought Miguel Angel Gonzalez in 1997 over a decade.

    Its a fact in sparring before the Manny Pacquiao fight, he got beat up by the smaller Victor Ortiz. Its a fact in the fight previous to the Manny Pacquiao fight.

    He was marked up by the smaller Steve Forbes. Its a fact it was ODLH's worst performance of his career against Manny Pacquiao, its a fact he was badly weight drained.

    And its a very strong opinion backed up by solid facts of the past, that most of the elite Welterweights. Would of beaten ODLH without too much trouble.
    No.. I never said that. You are confusing yourself. You need to focus on what I am saying.

    Nobody apart from Pacster fought Oscar on the 06-12-2008. That is a fact. Therefore it is impossible to know for a fact that any other fighter would have been more impressive than Pacster. That is a fact.

    You THINK any top fighter at 147 would have beaten Oscar that night. But you can't PROVE it. It's just an OPINION because It's IMPOSSIBLE to prove. That is a fact.

    I too believe other fighters would have beaten Oscar that night. BUT it doesn't mean Pacster's performance should be sullied.
    Perhaps but the version of DLH that showed up was in name only.

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    Default Re: Why people won't hate on Miguel Cotto for fighting Manny Pacquiao

    Teath he weight in at 145 and came in at 147 in the Forbes fight he weight in at 150 but come fight night Oscar Dela Hoya weight alot more.

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