Great Technical Boxers Limited by Mentality

[Andre]

Hi my friend Donny , good to see you , i hopes everything is well with you and your family too ..............

Well what about Hazem Hamed when was defeated by Marcos Antonio Barrera , he never returned back to fight , probably MAB frustrated him in some way i guess..................

I really liked that fight and i enjoyed...............

Macho!
Great to see you my friend!
Everything is good here, how are you?


Yeah Naseem Hamed certainly is one, once he lost his aura of invincibility I think it shattered his own drive and self belief.

Truely great to see you again mi pana.

Same happened i the same weight class to Koko from Hungary undefeated for 20 plus then ko'ed lost his world title and never even tried again once.

Tua wasnt great technically as such but always dissapointed me, recon he could of been so much more if he hadn't got so lazy with his training.

[donnydarkoIRL]

Hi my friend Donny , good to see you , i hopes everything is well with you and your family too ..............

Well what about Hazem Hamed when was defeated by Marcos Antonio Barrera , he never returned back to fight , probably MAB frustrated him in some way i guess..................

I really liked that fight and i enjoyed...............

Macho!
Great to see you my friend!
Everything is good here, how are you?


Yeah Naseem Hamed certainly is one, once he lost his aura of invincibility I think it shattered his own drive and self belief.

Truely great to see you again mi pana.

Same happened i the same weight class to Koko from Hungary undefeated for 20 plus then ko'ed lost his world title and never even tried again once.

Tua wasnt great technically as such but always dissapointed me, recon he could of been so much more if he hadn't got so lazy with his training.

Yeah Tua regretted that himself...
Shame really.

[Andre]

Actually the thread title is tailor made for A Mundine.

[El Kabong]

I didn't read all the posts but Andrew Golota should be the posterboy of this thread

[holmcall]

Dominick Guinn

[amat]

Ike has he been mentioned? Ibeabuchi not Quartey, that's one that sticks out. A good solid fighter who had a legit two hand attack which is more then you can say for a lot of one dimensional heavyweights of today.

I don't really agree with the Taylor one, moreover I don't agree with the notion that he should have done something else in the 12th round. I think he fought a GREAT fight, a fight that would have propelled him to superstardom and ATG status if he won and that's because of the way he fought the first 11 rounds. Everyone knew Taylor had the ability to outbox Chavez, the statement was made when he outfought Chavez on the inside. And that's how he won all those rounds that gave him that perceived lead (I don't remember how the cards shook out.) Hindsight is 20/20, Taylor could have bounced around, not given Chavez a target and then leave it in the hands of judges who you never know what you are getting in their cards. Plus, he could have knocked Chavez out. With the accumalation of punches you could see that was a possibility as early as the 8th round. I find it more admirable then I do boneheaded. The ending to that fight and to Meldrick Taylor's career as a whole is tragic but I don't think he was limited in the way Golota, Bowe, Judah or Tyson are, by their own mentality. The Philly fighter mentality he always gets branded with isn't neccasarily a bad thing, we would have loved him for it just like everyone loved Holyfield at that time for being so willing to fight.

That's my stance on Taylor.

Another Taylor fits this bill, Jermain Taylor who had his career rolling with two wins over Hopkins and a draw with Wright who were concievably the two toughest possible fights for him to ever take and he emerged through them with his title. But it just seems like they both made him think to much in the ring because like OumaFan pointed out in the Froch fight, he fights with so much nervous energy it's visible. He's never settled, he always looks ancy and never smooth. He fought really calm against Lacy only getting into trouble once otherwise fighting smart with great activity, looked good but not against Froch not even in the first 11 rounds did he look all that great.

De La Hoya comes to mind just because of how many times he simply made the wrong tactical decision in a fight which eventually cost him or should have cost him on numerous occasions.

[jon09]

Hi my friend Donny , good to see you , i hopes everything is well with you and your family too ..............

Well what about Hazem Hamed when was defeated by Marcos Antonio Barrera , he never returned back to fight , probably MAB frustrated him in some way i guess..................

I really liked that fight and i enjoyed...............

Macho!
Great to see you my friend!
Everything is good here, how are you?


Yeah Naseem Hamed certainly is one, once he lost his aura of invincibility I think it shattered his own drive and self belief.

Truely great to see you again mi pana.

Same happened i the same weight class to Koko from Hungary undefeated for 20 plus then ko'ed lost his world title and never even tried again once.

Tua wasnt great technically as such but always dissapointed me, recon he could of been so much more if he hadn't got so lazy with his training.

Tua is a good 1 the Lennox loss screwed him up pretty badly.