KLITSCHKO vs CHAGAEV

[Violent Demise]

After watching that borefest i still think Haye is fast enough to beat this guy by evading the left and smashing the overhand right.

Good thing for Wlad he rarely throws the left.

what hand does he jab with?

After watching that borefest i still think Haye is fast enough to beat this guy by evading the left and smashing the overhand right.

Good thing for Wlad he rarely throws the left.

Wlad hardly throws a left

I think you're confused VD, Piye is saying that Haye could have some sucsess if he were to slip to the outside of Wlad's left hand and throw an overhand right at Wlad.

Did you misread his post or are you honestly telling us that Wlad doesn't throw his left hand much?

I don't consider his jab a left hand. He uses it as a range finder most of the time. When he does it's impossible to counter

[piye]

Good thing for Wlad he rarely throws the left.

what hand does he jab with?

Good thing for Wlad he rarely throws the left.

Wlad hardly throws a left

I think you're confused VD, Piye is saying that Haye could have some sucsess if he were to slip to the outside of Wlad's left hand and throw an overhand right at Wlad.

Did you misread his post or are you honestly telling us that Wlad doesn't throw his left hand much?

I don't consider his jab a left hand. He uses it as a range finder most of the time. When he does it's impossible to counter

I'm sure this is dependent on how fast you are.

[Violent Demise]

what hand does he jab with?

Wlad hardly throws a left

I think you're confused VD, Piye is saying that Haye could have some sucsess if he were to slip to the outside of Wlad's left hand and throw an overhand right at Wlad.

Did you misread his post or are you honestly telling us that Wlad doesn't throw his left hand much?

I don't consider his jab a left hand. He uses it as a range finder most of the time. When he does it's impossible to counter

I'm sure this is dependent on how fast you are.

You seen it get counter yet?

[piye]

I don't consider his jab a left hand. He uses it as a range finder most of the time. When he does it's impossible to counter

I'm sure this is dependent on how fast you are.

You seen it get counter yet?

Yes against Corrie Sanders and against Brewster and against Sam Peter etc.

[Violent Demise]

I'm sure this is dependent on how fast you are.

You seen it get counter yet?

Yes against Corrie Sanders and against Brewster and against Sam Peter etc.

You never saw those fights, did you? They had nothing to do with him being countered.

[AdamGB]

You seen it get counter yet?

Yes against Corrie Sanders and against Brewster and against Sam Peter etc.

You never saw those fights, did you? They had nothing to do with him being countered.

he never said that they were major factors in the fight, just that counters were landed at some point.

[piye]

You seen it get counter yet?

Yes against Corrie Sanders and against Brewster and against Sam Peter etc.

You never saw those fights, did you? They had nothing to do with him being countered.

lol, no I never watched the fights. blah, let me ask you this are you really happy with Wlad spearheading your favorite sport? I mean a Kids entertainer Brock Lesner is champ of UFC and is a much bigger name worldwide than Wlad. Wlad is a gentleman and a nice guy but he is really stopping the sport from having any cross over success in the heavyweight division.

[AdamGB]

He's a talented fighter but he sure as hell doesn't fight like a champ... I don't like fighters to just brawl but come on...

Tyson was more than just a brawler (early on anyway) and I wouldn't say that his opposition was much better than Wlad's... Wlad uses his superior size to basically fence with people until throwing out a cautious (if hard) right hand... Tyson wouldn't let them breath... they were inferior fighters to Tyson but the manor he dispatched of them is why Tyson is and would have still been a bigger name than Brock fucking Lesnar and why nobody really gives a damn about Wlad.

[Violent Demise]

Yes against Corrie Sanders and against Brewster and against Sam Peter etc.

You never saw those fights, did you? They had nothing to do with him being countered.

he never said that they were major factors in the fight, just that counters were landed at some point.

Learn to read between the lines. He listed them as if they contributed to his losses.

Yes against Corrie Sanders and against Brewster and against Sam Peter etc.

You never saw those fights, did you? They had nothing to do with him being countered.

lol, no I never watched the fights. blah, let me ask you this are you really happy with Wlad spearheading your favorite sport? I mean a Kids entertainer Brock Lesner is champ of UFC and is a much bigger name worldwide than Wlad. Wlad is a gentleman and a nice guy but he is really stopping the sport from having any cross over success in the heavyweight division.

So now it's Wlad fault his opponents can't beat him? Gimmie a fukking break. Wlad is what he is. Accept it.

Lesner a former pro wrestler became champ in what his 3rd or 4th fight? That pretty much says it all about the crap otherwise known as UFC

[AdamGB]

Good thing for Wlad he rarely throws the left.

what hand does he jab with?

Good thing for Wlad he rarely throws the left.

Wlad hardly throws a left

I think you're confused VD, Piye is saying that Haye could have some sucsess if he were to slip to the outside of Wlad's left hand and throw an overhand right at Wlad.

Did you misread his post or are you honestly telling us that Wlad doesn't throw his left hand much?

I don't consider his jab a left hand.

What ever floats your boat...

[Violent Demise]

what hand does he jab with?

Wlad hardly throws a left

I think you're confused VD, Piye is saying that Haye could have some sucsess if he were to slip to the outside of Wlad's left hand and throw an overhand right at Wlad.

Did you misread his post or are you honestly telling us that Wlad doesn't throw his left hand much?

I don't consider his jab a left hand.

What ever floats your boat...

Are you telling me you consider his left hand (power punch) to be the same as his left jab?

[AdamGB]

No but I also make a differentiation between somebody pawing with their left as opposed to working an actual jab. They are not one and the same.

The issue isn't whether I've seen it countered or whether it will be countered.

Unless he has a third arm I fail to see where the criticisms about his reluctance to throw the right come from.

[leftylee]

Wladimir Klitchsko - Same thing over and over.

[jon09]

Wladimir Klitchsko - Same thing over and over.

And the heavyweights still continue to fall for it over and over again.

[leftylee]

Wladimir Klitchsko - Same thing over and over.

And the heavyweights still continue to fall for it over and over again.

All but one. And that one will come soon enough, David Haye.