KLITSCHKO vs CHAGAEV

[AdamGB]

No but I also make a differentiation between somebody pawing with their left as opposed to working an actual jab. They are not one and the same.

The issue isn't whether I've seen it countered or whether it will be countered.

Unless he has a third arm I fail to see where the criticisms about his reluctance to throw the right come from.

[leftylee]

Wladimir Klitchsko - Same thing over and over.

[jon09]

Wladimir Klitchsko - Same thing over and over.

And the heavyweights still continue to fall for it over and over again.

[leftylee]

Wladimir Klitchsko - Same thing over and over.

And the heavyweights still continue to fall for it over and over again.

All but one. And that one will come soon enough, David Haye.

[jon09]

Wladimir Klitchsko - Same thing over and over.

And the heavyweights still continue to fall for it over and over again.

All but one. And that one will come soon enough, David Haye.

You know what lefty I hope your right. It would be great to see a fresh face in the heavyweights making waves. But I just do not think its going to be Haye unless he pulls a Sanders and goes for broke looking for the ko early. There is no way Haye is going to outbox either 1 of the Klitschkos. Haye should go after Valuev 1st.

[leftylee]

And the heavyweights still continue to fall for it over and over again.

All but one. And that one will come soon enough, David Haye.

You know what lefty I hope your right. It would be great to see a fresh face in the heavyweights making waves. But I just do not think its going to be Haye unless he pulls a Sanders and goes for broke looking for the ko early. There is no way Haye is going to outbox either 1 of the Klitschkos. Haye should go after Valuev 1st.

Haye has even stated that is his plan numerous times. Haye doesn't mess around in there, he's in and out. He'll be looking to KO Wlad early and when he lands the monster Hayemaker shot its lights out for Bitchsko.

[Violent Demise]

He's a talented fighter but he sure as hell doesn't fight like a champ... I don't like fighters to just brawl but come on...

Tyson was more than just a brawler (early on anyway) and I wouldn't say that his opposition was much better than Wlad's... Wlad uses his superior size to basically fence with people until throwing out a cautious (if hard) right hand... Tyson wouldn't let them breath... they were inferior fighters to Tyson but the manor he dispatched of them is why Tyson is and would have still been a bigger name than Brock fucking Lesnar and why nobody really gives a damn about Wlad.

Yes dominating wins are not what champions do.

All but one. And that one will come soon enough, David Haye.

You know what lefty I hope your right. It would be great to see a fresh face in the heavyweights making waves. But I just do not think its going to be Haye unless he pulls a Sanders and goes for broke looking for the ko early. There is no way Haye is going to outbox either 1 of the Klitschkos. Haye should go after Valuev 1st.

Haye has even stated that is his plan numerous times. Haye doesn't mess around in there, he's in and out. He'll be looking to KO Wlad early and when he lands the monster Hayemaker shot its lights out for Bitchsko.

They all have a plan. Once that hammer jab hits them flush it usually changes.

[amat]

Right hand thrown with caution? I can't say I agree with that Adam. I think he was cautious at first in throwing the right hand, he through his 1st with 10 seconds to go in the 1st round and then sparingly through the next couple rounds but when he through them there was no caution involved those were straight shots with a lot on them, he missed and fell in with the right hand one time in that fight, it was pretty much perfection. So yeah he didn't throw a single left hook, he didn't need to and he couldn't have made his punches count for much more.

He's finely tuned and confident right now, Haye better have fast feet because Wlad's balance and footwork won him the fight tonight he was spacing his shots perfectly catching Chagaev on the very end of all of those right hands. Used his feet nicely never let Chagaev inside because he was the better athlete in there.

I got a lot more out of it then I thought I would, definitely exceeded meager expectations. At least one fighter looked good.

[LEGION]

Wladimir Klitchsko - Same thing over and over.

And the heavyweights still continue to fall for it over and over again.

All but one. And that one will come soon enough, David Haye.

Don't put the cart in front of the horse bro'. You jinxed Hatton enough already JK.

So what are the chances Haye/Klit will renegotiate a fight? If not who does Wlad fight now? Chewbacca?

[leftylee]

And the heavyweights still continue to fall for it over and over again.

All but one. And that one will come soon enough, David Haye.

Don't put the cart in front of the horse bro'. You jinxed Hatton enough already JK.

So what are the chances Haye/Klit will renegotiate a fight? If not who does Wlad fight now? Chewbacca?

Well its difficult as Wlad has Povetkin to deal with by September otherwise he'll lose his title. So Haye will HAVE to fight somebody else before Wladimir. Who that is remains to be seen.

[LEGION]

All but one. And that one will come soon enough, David Haye.

Don't put the cart in front of the horse bro'. You jinxed Hatton enough already JK.

So what are the chances Haye/Klit will renegotiate a fight? If not who does Wlad fight now? Chewbacca?

Well its difficult as Wlad has Povetkin to deal with by September otherwise he'll lose his title. So Haye will HAVE to fight somebody else before Wladimir. Who that is remains to be soon.

Oh ok; honestly I forgot about Povetkin. To be truthful I just don't follow the heavies and the furball primate Valuev is the only one I always think of Or some of these American guys like Arreola and Chambers. I'm wondering how much longer Wlad is going to fight anyways?

[Violent Demise]

No but I also make a differentiation between somebody pawing with their left as opposed to working an actual jab. They are not one and the same.

The issue isn't whether I've seen it countered or whether it will be countered.

Unless he has a third arm I fail to see where the criticisms about his reluctance to throw the right come from.

What the fukk are you talking about? When did I say anything about his reluctance to throw or not throw the right?

[AdamGB]

No but I also make a differentiation between somebody pawing with their left as opposed to working an actual jab. They are not one and the same.

The issue isn't whether I've seen it countered or whether it will be countered.

Unless he has a third arm I fail to see where the criticisms about his reluctance to throw the right come from.

What the fukk are you talking about? When did I say anything about his reluctance to throw or not throw the right?

I wasn't talking about you...