B. J. Flores' comments on Wlad yesterday

[El Kabong]

Wlad did have a dominant showing and vs the #3 ranked heavyweight in most people's opinions. Ruslan had never had much trouble vs anyone, sure he had a little ring rust vs Drummond but he was undefeated and had beaten some pretty decent competition in his own right and Wlad never let him in the fight....total domination.

The sad thing is had that been David Haye in there the tone of these posts would still be the same, apparently for some people Wlad just hasn't done enough they don't care about the 53 wins they only look at the losses, they don't care about the 47 KO's they only care about the way he gets them....one day when Wlad is old and retired people will look back and come to grips with how much he accomplished and how dominant a fighter he was.

[rowlesy]

Saying that about his victories, you have to look at who he has beaten. It's one hell of a padded record. It's a very sad indictment of the division that someone like Wlad can just jab there way to the top and be so very boring.

[El Kabong]

Saying that about his victories, you have to look at who he has beaten. It's one hell of a padded record. It's a very sad indictment of the division that someone like Wlad can just jab there way to the top and be so very boring.

...well after a post like that I don't even have to call you a hater you're proudly promoting yourself as one without any help from the like of me.

Wladimir does what he does, he comes to fight in shape, he gets the KO's and he doesn't get hit. He's not Mike Tyson, he's not Evander Holyfield but he has achieved so much already and he's just 32 so he's got a lot left in him.

Sure the guys Wlad has fought recently have mainly been fighting to stay alive Tyson had similar issues as did Lennox Lewis and they had tough fights on account of it and they weren't fun to watch. But that isn't a testament to how weak the division is, it's a testament to how good of a fighter Wladimir is, that a very experienced pro like Chagaev can just be baffled by the size, the skill, and the athletism of Wladimir and have no answer for it.

But go ahead and hate away...I'll enjoy it all the more when David Haye gets smacked down like the punk he is

[Spicoli]

I dont think its the numbers of KO's really so much as its his approach.I say it with any guy,Ko's can be a bit misleading.Its a willingness and intensity when you are in absolute control...shifting gears and putting a period on it..I think he has a much better arsenal than he shows alot of the times but maybe throwing more leaves you there to be open yourself.Given his past losses I think he is very conscious of it.

[rowlesy]

Saying that about his victories, you have to look at who he has beaten. It's one hell of a padded record. It's a very sad indictment of the division that someone like Wlad can just jab there way to the top and be so very boring.

...well after a post like that I don't even have to call you a hater you're proudly promoting yourself as one without any help from the like of me.

Wladimir does what he does, he comes to fight in shape, he gets the KO's and he doesn't get hit. He's not Mike Tyson, he's not Evander Holyfield but he has achieved so much already and he's just 32 so he's got a lot left in him.

Sure the guys Wlad has fought recently have mainly been fighting to stay alive Tyson had similar issues as did Lennox Lewis and they had tough fights on account of it and they weren't fun to watch. But that isn't a testament to how weak the division is, it's a testament to how good of a fighter Wladimir is, that a very experienced pro like Chagaev can just be baffled by the size, the skill, and the athletism of Wladimir and have no answer for it.

But go ahead and hate away...I'll enjoy it all the more when David Haye gets smacked down like the punk he is

I don't hate anyone you sanctimounious prick. Because I call him boring I'm a hater? If he was entertaining I would love him, but he's as boring as hell. All he does is jab jab and then right hand. I saw him throw maybe one uppercut and possibly three hooks that entire fight.

But that isn't a testament to how weak the division is

Really? So him fighting fighters who are 'fighting to stay alive' doesn't show how weak the division is does it not? The division is on its arse and you know it. But because you're a 'fanboy' you refuse to accept that Wlad's record is nowhere near as good as it looks.

[Kirkland Laing]

But that isn't a testament to how weak the division is, it's a testament to how good of a fighter Wladimir is

You just keep on believing.

[ono]

Saying that about his victories, you have to look at who he has beaten. It's one hell of a padded record. It's a very sad indictment of the division that someone like Wlad can just jab there way to the top and be so very boring.

...well after a post like that I don't even have to call you a hater you're proudly promoting yourself as one without any help from the like of me.

Wladimir does what he does, he comes to fight in shape, he gets the KO's and he doesn't get hit. He's not Mike Tyson, he's not Evander Holyfield but he has achieved so much already and he's just 32 so he's got a lot left in him.

Sure the guys Wlad has fought recently have mainly been fighting to stay alive Tyson had similar issues as did Lennox Lewis and they had tough fights on account of it and they weren't fun to watch. But that isn't a testament to how weak the division is, it's a testament to how good of a fighter Wladimir is, that a very experienced pro like Chagaev can just be baffled by the size, the skill, and the athletism of Wladimir and have no answer for it.

But go ahead and hate away...I'll enjoy it all the more when David Haye gets smacked down like the punk he is

[Mar]

B. J. pretty much writes down what the guy next to him says mixes it up and says it again.

[JT Rock]

Wlad did have a dominant showing and vs the #3 ranked heavyweight in most people's opinions. Ruslan had never had much trouble vs anyone, sure he had a little ring rust vs Drummond but he was undefeated and had beaten some pretty decent competition in his own right and Wlad never let him in the fight....total domination.

The sad thing is had that been David Haye in there the tone of these posts would still be the same, apparently for some people Wlad just hasn't done enough they don't care about the 53 wins they only look at the losses, they don't care about the 47 KO's they only care about the way he gets them....one day when Wlad is old and retired people will look back and come to grips with how much he accomplished and how dominant a fighter he was.

Nope, Never

Holyfield
Prime Bowe
Lewis
Prime Tyson
Michael Moorer

Would all beat Wlad, he is a very mediocre fighter in a lackluster division. I agree no one can outbox him currently, because there all stiffs.

Ruslan#3 yea ok 10 or so years ago he wouldnt even be a top 20.

Wlad is the best now, fine but its the weakest heavyweight era I can ever remember.

Congrats Wlad your king of the garbage dump

[El Kabong]

Nope, Never

Holyfield
Prime Bowe
Lewis
Prime Tyson
Michael Moorer

Would all beat Wlad, he is a very mediocre fighter in a lackluster division. I agree no one can outbox him currently, because there all stiffs.

Ruslan#3 yea ok 10 or so years ago he wouldnt even be a top 20.

Wlad is the best now, fine but its the weakest heavyweight era I can ever remember.

Congrats Wlad your king of the garbage dump

Are those guys fighting right now? Is it 100% certain that those guys could hang with Wladimir No, so all you have is a fucking opinion and I do believe that everyone has an opinion.

"Wlad wouldn't stand a chance vs a Prime ____" ...you can fuck off that's what you can do because a Prime ____ ain't walking through that door. Mike Tyson got beat by Buster Douglas, Kevin McBride and Danny Williams and was getting worked over by Frans Botha before Tyson tried to break his arms....so don't give me this shit.

[Kev]

Nope, Never

Holyfield
Prime Bowe
Lewis
Prime Tyson
Michael Moorer

Would all beat Wlad, he is a very mediocre fighter in a lackluster division. I agree no one can outbox him currently, because there all stiffs.

Ruslan#3 yea ok 10 or so years ago he wouldnt even be a top 20.

Wlad is the best now, fine but its the weakest heavyweight era I can ever remember.

Congrats Wlad your king of the garbage dump

Are those guys fighting right now? Is it 100% certain that those guys could hang with Wladimir No, so all you have is a fucking opinion and I do believe that everyone has an opinion.

"Wlad wouldn't stand a chance vs a Prime ____" ...you can fuck off that's what you can do because a Prime ____ ain't walking through that door. Mike Tyson got beat by Buster Douglas, Kevin McBride and Danny Williams and was getting worked over by Frans Botha before Tyson tried to break his arms....so don't give me this shit.

I agree completely Lyle. People always say this fighter couldn't hang with that one, he'd destroy him in 4 rounds or whatever but its very very very rarely the case when you are talking about the elite of the sport.

The margin of talent and ability is so small that just a slight advantage, even to how a fighter is feeling on the day can make all the difference.

I really doubt Michael Moorer could beat Wladimir, a great fighter but too small and not enough power to hurt a cautious, jabbing Wlad. I think he'd have an excellent chance of beating even a prime Holyfield too for the same reasons.

Tyson, who really knows. Sure he could land immediately and end it in the first couple of rounds or he could have got frustrated, full of self doubt and just imploded. Tyson was never invincible, he always had a weak mindset and he'd have been every bit as intimidated of Wlad as Wlad would of him.

Certainly if Tyson landed it would be lights out but he wasn't very effective against Bonecrusher Smith in his prime and I think Wlad is several levels above that.

If he fought smart the Wlad of today would have a chance of beating even a prime Tyson if he fought a perfect fight, far far lesser men than Wlad have knocked him out so he was in no way unbeatable.

I can't think of a single heavyweight who has ever lived who you could say would certainly have an easy night against Wlad. It's one thing to just say he's chinny and he'll get destroyed but if his jabe stops them from landing and he can keep himself safe then as we've seen he's tremendously difficult to beat.

Sure he could lose to any of the best guys but this idea that all they have to do is turn up is absurd.

And Tyson never beat a heavyweight as good as Wladimir either.

[Spicoli]

He would not defeat a prime Holyfield umm Imo.......Larger & nicely skilled but flawed by regiment.Holyfield would find a way under and come up on the inside.Wlads comfort zone would evaporate and I think Holyfield the better hooker ()

Have to throw in...Moorer was solid boxer-puncher.Fluid hitter with a mental block.If he stood on the outside jabbing to get it,I think Wlad takes him out off range.Some of the better quicker hands at Hvy....but feet not so much.

[Kev]

He would not defeat a prime Holyfield umm Imo.......Larger & nicely skilled but flawed by regiment.Holyfield would find a way under and come up on the inside.Wlads comfort zone would evaporate and I think Holyfield the better hooker ()

Have to throw in...Moorer was solid boxer-puncher.Fluid hitter with a mental block.If he stood on the outside jabbing to get it,I think Wlad takes him out off range.Some of the better quicker hands at Hvy....but feet not so much.

You have no way of proving that Evander would have beaten Wlad. I'm not arguing that Wlad is anywhere near as exciting as Evander or has his chin and toughness, but his size and jab would cause Evander problems, just like it would cause anybody problems.

Evander never beat a prime fighter as good as Wlad with those height and reach advantages. It would have been a very tough fight and could easily have gone either way.

[The Fightfan]

Wlad did have a dominant showing and vs the #3 ranked heavyweight in most people's opinions. Ruslan had never had much trouble vs anyone, sure he had a little ring rust vs Drummond but he was undefeated and had beaten some pretty decent competition in his own right and Wlad never let him in the fight....total domination.

The sad thing is had that been David Haye in there the tone of these posts would still be the same, apparently for some people Wlad just hasn't done enough they don't care about the 53 wins they only look at the losses, they don't care about the 47 KO's they only care about the way he gets them....one day when Wlad is old and retired people will look back and come to grips with how much he accomplished and how dominant a fighter he was.

Nope, Never

Holyfield
Prime Bowe
Lewis
Prime Tyson
Michael Moorer

Would all beat Wlad, he is a very mediocre fighter in a lackluster division. I agree no one can outbox him currently, because there all stiffs.

Ruslan#3 yea ok 10 or so years ago he wouldnt even be a top 20.

Wlad is the best now, fine but its the weakest heavyweight era I can ever remember.

Congrats Wlad your king of the garbage dump

I am sorry Michael Moorer? Are you serious?

[El Kabong]

I just get tired of reading all the hate people have for Wladimir...it's ridiculous