I wish Jack Johnson was alive

[El Kabong]

We're talking about heavyweights correct? Then why would any comment about David Haye be out of bounds or off topic?

[JazMerkin]

We're talking about heavyweights correct? Then why would any comment about David Haye be out of bounds or off topic?

Because you're relentlessly mentioning him. I meant you mentioned him in the off-topic section, I'll admit some of the hype he's been getting has been ridiculous, but just don't feed into it unless you're that desperate to talk about him

[El Kabong]

But this isn't the Off Topic forum and this thread IS about heavyweight ergo wouldn't this be the place for me to post about David Haye? I mean it would be in a place where you could avoid reading about him and all.

[JazMerkin]

But this isn't the Off Topic forum and this thread IS about heavyweight ergo wouldn't this be the place for me to post about David Haye? I mean it would be in a place where you could avoid reading about him and all.

But the thing is, and I know you'll agree with this, but David Haye IS NOT the HW division. It seems we can't discuss HWs without Haye getting mentioned, often by you, and as he hasn't done enough in the division, why do we have to mention him every time any HWs get mentioned. Wlad has earnt the right to at least be discussed in context with great HWs of the past, Haye hasn't so let's leave him out of discussions about Jack Johnson

[rjj tszyu]

But this isn't the Off Topic forum and this thread IS about heavyweight ergo wouldn't this be the place for me to post about David Haye? I mean it would be in a place where you could avoid reading about him and all.

But the thing is, and I know you'll agree with this, but David Haye IS NOT the HW division. It seems we can't discuss HWs without Haye getting mentioned, often by you, and as he hasn't done enough in the division, why do we have to mention him every time any HWs get mentioned. Wlad has earnt the right to at least be discussed in context with great HWs of the past, Haye hasn't so let's leave him out of discussions about Jack Johnson

Spot on my friend. Until Haye proves his greatness by KOing Wlad lets leave him out of Jack Johnsons thread and just keep with the topic

[El Kabong]

But the thing is, and I know you'll agree with this, but David Haye IS NOT the HW division. It seems we can't discuss HWs without Haye getting mentioned, often by you, and as he hasn't done enough in the division, why do we have to mention him every time any HWs get mentioned. Wlad has earnt the right to at least be discussed in context with great HWs of the past, Haye hasn't so let's leave him out of discussions about Jack Johnson

The only reason you guys want to compare Wlad with the greats is to bitch and moan about him so if you're thinking that reading about David Haye and how much I hate him is annoying and you want me to lay off, then I'd oblige you if the people who dislike Wladimir would stop knocking him all the time.

[rjj tszyu]

But the thing is, and I know you'll agree with this, but David Haye IS NOT the HW division. It seems we can't discuss HWs without Haye getting mentioned, often by you, and as he hasn't done enough in the division, why do we have to mention him every time any HWs get mentioned. Wlad has earnt the right to at least be discussed in context with great HWs of the past, Haye hasn't so let's leave him out of discussions about Jack Johnson

The only reason you guys want to compare Wlad with the greats is to bitch and moan about him so if you're thinking that reading about David Haye and how much I hate him is annoying and you want me to lay off, then I'd oblige you if the people who dislike Wladimir would stop knocking him all the time.

I personally don't want to knock Wlad but I can see why people do. He is the man at HW and he has recent greats such as Lewis, Holyfield and Tyson to follow and all three of them brought excitement that Wlad just doesn't and the fact he is around in such a poor era of HW's doesn't help because there is only really Vitali who "most" people think can beat him and they are never going to fight for obvious reasons. Wlad is a victim of this era too.

[JT Rock]

and you want me to lay off, then I'd oblige you if the people who dislike Wladimir would stop knocking him all the time.

You got as much of a chance as Wlad does of taking a right hand, then to have me stop knocking him

[JazMerkin]

But the thing is, and I know you'll agree with this, but David Haye IS NOT the HW division. It seems we can't discuss HWs without Haye getting mentioned, often by you, and as he hasn't done enough in the division, why do we have to mention him every time any HWs get mentioned. Wlad has earnt the right to at least be discussed in context with great HWs of the past, Haye hasn't so let's leave him out of discussions about Jack Johnson

The only reason you guys want to compare Wlad with the greats is to bitch and moan about him so if you're thinking that reading about David Haye and how much I hate him is annoying and you want me to lay off, then I'd oblige you if the people who dislike Wladimir would stop knocking him all the time.

I'd like you to find the post where I have b1tched & moaned about Wlad, or where I've knocked him. I have some criticisms, but I'm not one to lay into him, I give him the respect & due he deserves. However, that really is no excuse for you going on about Haye. PBF is my favourite fighter, yet I read endless threads where people slag him off about this and that, saying he's a 'pussy', however I don't then start badmouthing Cotto or Pacquiao just because those people are idiots

[El Kabong]

Well to each their own....you don't like my posts then don't read them

[rjj tszyu]

We're talking about heavyweights correct? Then why would any comment about David Haye be out of bounds or off topic?

Because you're relentlessly mentioning him. I meant you mentioned him in the off-topic section, I'll admit some of the hype he's been getting has been ridiculous, but just don't feed into it unless you're that desperate to talk about him

He has a point Lyle. You seem obsessed by David Haye and his downfall, If you don't like the guy thats fair enough, I don't particuarly like Mike Tyson but I don't bring him up every other post I make and I respect that the guy was a professional athlete just like Haye and Wlad.