Victor Ortiz is a quiter

[CFH]

“To beat a legend the way I did, it’s a massive highlight in my career, and it will take me on to the next level, get me known around the world and get a lot bigger fights,”

Amir Khan Beats Marco Antonio Barrera: Olympic Silver Medalist Triumphs Over Baby-Faced Assassin | Suite101.com

there is one i can look for more later.

Everything Khan said is perfectly accurate. Barrera is a legend, Khan did beat him, and the victory (disputed or not) will certainly increase his exposure and lead to bigger fights (ie a Kotelnik title match). Nowhere does he brag and he never once calls himself great or lauds himself in any way in the quote you provided.

well i beg to differ, saying "to beat a legend the way i did" implies he destroyed him when in fact MAB was a one eyed fighter out there due to a butt in the first round.

That quote could mean anything. Maybe "the way I did" means to come back after a devestating KO loss and defeat a legend (albeit one who is well past his best), winning every round.

I'm just saying that the quote is ambiguous as best, and nowhere does he call himself great or say anything out of the ordinary. In fact, in terms of boxers talking themselves up that quote is very tame and I see no reason to get bent out of shape about it.

[OumaFan]

There's nothing wrong with what Ortiz did, it was his choice and its not like he pulled a Derrick Gainer during the fight.

But face it part of the fascination with boxing is seeing guys who are willing to lay everything on the line, who are wired like most people aren't really. Diego Corrales, Morales, etc. We have some internet warriors who post with bad intentions regularly but that's not really the same thing. And Ortiz doesn't seem to be wired like a Corrales either. It doesn't mean he's a coward, he gave a good effort, just wilted under the pressure and didn't react well to the cut.

[boozeboxer]

There's nothing wrong with what Ortiz did, it was his choice and its not like he pulled a Derrick Gainer during the fight.

But face it part of the fascination with boxing is seeing guys who are willing to lay everything on the line, who are wired like most people aren't really. Diego Corrales, Morales, etc. We have some internet warriors who post with bad intentions regularly but that's not really the same thing. And Ortiz doesn't seem to be wired like a Corrales either. It doesn't mean he's a coward, he gave a good effort, just wilted under the pressure and didn't react well to the cut.

When Joe Frazier was asked if he would have come out the last round knowing he could very well die and he simply said "yes."

[markb018]

Everything Khan said is perfectly accurate. Barrera is a legend, Khan did beat him, and the victory (disputed or not) will certainly increase his exposure and lead to bigger fights (ie a Kotelnik title match). Nowhere does he brag and he never once calls himself great or lauds himself in any way in the quote you provided.

well i beg to differ, saying "to beat a legend the way i did" implies he destroyed him when in fact MAB was a one eyed fighter out there due to a butt in the first round.

That quote could mean anything. Maybe "the way I did" means to come back after a devestating KO loss and defeat a legend (albeit one who is well past his best), winning every round.

I'm just saying that the quote is ambiguous as best, and nowhere does he call himself great or say anything out of the ordinary. In fact, in terms of boxers talking themselves up that quote is very tame and I see no reason to get bent out of shape about it.

fair enough, point taken