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    Default Re: Why is Mosley ranked higher than Cotto at welterweight?

    Fuk all the BALCO talk.

    Cotto is good but Mosley is better. Yeah I know Mosley lost but IMO he fought the wrong fight; He was suprised by Cotto's boxing ability.

    Cotto was on the back foot by the end of the fight. Forget he's excuses for why. The real reasons became apparent in the Margarito and Clottey fights.

    Cotto isn't quite the warrior he'd have us all believe.

    Mosley would K.O cotto in a Re-match.

    Also, for the sake of this argument, id LOVE to see how Cotto handled a PRIME Dela Hoya at 147
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    Default Re: Why is Mosley ranked higher than Cotto at welterweight?

    Quote Originally Posted by holmcall View Post
    Because he slaughtered the guy who butchered the guy who beat him, but he did this MOST RECENTLY. My guess is Mosley is fresher than Cotto and that's why I have have him ranked higher--that and the fact I saw Margo's ghost in his fight with Clottey.
    Yea, but Cotto beat Clottey even more recently and he beat Mosley. Plus, Mosley looked mediocre in his win over Mayorga, which was the fight before Margarito.

    Either way you cut it Cotto has taken on every single fighter out there. How anyone could not say Cotto is a warrior is beyond me.

    Mosley is ranked above Cotto because Mosley beat Margarito. I can get that: Margarito was ranked number one and Mosley beat the number one guy. That said, Cotto beat Mosley, the current number one, and beat Clottey, the current number three.

    If I'm getting everyone's points, everyone would agree that if Cotto rematched Margarito and beat him, he unequivocally would be ranked number one. Correct? And what if he beats Manny?
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    Default Re: Why is Mosley ranked higher than Cotto at welterweight?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Yea, but Cotto beat Clottey even more recently and he beat Mosley. Plus, Mosley looked mediocre in his win over Mayorga, which was the fight before Margarito.

    Either way you cut it Cotto has taken on every single fighter out there. How anyone could not say Cotto is a warrior is beyond me.

    Mosley is ranked above Cotto because Mosley beat Margarito. I can get that: Margarito was ranked number one and Mosley beat the number one guy. That said, Cotto beat Mosley, the current number one, and beat Clottey, the current number three.

    If I'm getting everyone's points, everyone would agree that if Cotto rematched Margarito and beat him, he unequivocally would be ranked number one. Correct? And what if he beats Manny?
    All Cotto has to do is fight Mosley again...simple as.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hitmandonny View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Yea, but Cotto beat Clottey even more recently and he beat Mosley. Plus, Mosley looked mediocre in his win over Mayorga, which was the fight before Margarito.

    Either way you cut it Cotto has taken on every single fighter out there. How anyone could not say Cotto is a warrior is beyond me.

    Mosley is ranked above Cotto because Mosley beat Margarito. I can get that: Margarito was ranked number one and Mosley beat the number one guy. That said, Cotto beat Mosley, the current number one, and beat Clottey, the current number three.

    If I'm getting everyone's points, everyone would agree that if Cotto rematched Margarito and beat him, he unequivocally would be ranked number one. Correct? And what if he beats Manny?
    All Cotto has to do is fight Mosley again...simple as.

    Yeah i think that the WW division kind of Stood still when Floyd was about. Everyone wanted to fight him and no one really seemed to be fighting each other (if that makes sense).

    Now that Manny Pacquiao has blown up in weight the same Welters, who for a while, were getting on with it in some great fights have seemed to be dragged back in to this equation of 'Who's gonna fight the P4P King'..

    Fuk P4P. Mosley and Cotto are No.1 & 2 and thats a great reason, if any, for a rematch.

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    Default Re: Why is Mosley ranked higher than Cotto at welterweight?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimboogie View Post
    Fuk all the BALCO talk.

    Cotto is good but Mosley is better. Yeah I know Mosley lost but IMO he fought the wrong fight; He was suprised by Cotto's boxing ability.

    Cotto was on the back foot by the end of the fight. Forget he's excuses for why. The real reasons became apparent in the Margarito and Clottey fights.

    Cotto isn't quite the warrior he'd have us all believe.

    Mosley would K.O cotto in a Re-match.

    Also, for the sake of this argument, id LOVE to see how Cotto handled a PRIME Dela Hoya at 147
    yea cause only a pussy would fight on for 9 rnds with a gash like this one



    or this one


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    Default Re: Why is Mosley ranked higher than Cotto at welterweight?

    How is Cotto not a warrior? Also he outboxed Mosley early on in their fight, and he landed some big punches off the back foot, I don't think anyone believes Cotto is the most durable guy on the planet, but he's one of the toughest.

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    Default Re: Why is Mosley ranked higher than Cotto at welterweight?

    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    How is Cotto not a warrior? Also he outboxed Mosley early on in their fight, and he landed some big punches off the back foot, I don't think anyone believes Cotto is the most durable guy on the planet, but he's one of the toughest.
    agreed

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    Default Re: Why is Mosley ranked higher than Cotto at welterweight?

    I say not quite the warrior becuase he's been made to go backwards in 3 of his last 5 fights. Cut or no cut.

    Its not a knock on Cotto and its not ment to be disrespectfull in any way.
    I acknowledge that he definitely sets out to be both a crowd pleaser and a fighters fighter but for me the word 'Dwindle' definitely springs to mind.

    As with Hatton, who i wouldn't call tough or a warrior (just a fighter trying to portray himself as one for clear effect), it's always alarming to see the 'tough guy' forced into retreat and proves that their NOT as tough as originally believed.

    Cotto seems more happy to retreat, slip and slide than hang tough these days.
    Its a big statement that depends greatly on his next few fights but i belive i've seen this patern a couple of times before to know what's really goin on.
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    Default Re: Why is Mosley ranked higher than Cotto at welterweight?

    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jimboogie View Post
    Fuk all the BALCO talk.

    Cotto is good but Mosley is better. Yeah I know Mosley lost but IMO he fought the wrong fight; He was suprised by Cotto's boxing ability.

    Cotto was on the back foot by the end of the fight. Forget he's excuses for why. The real reasons became apparent in the Margarito and Clottey fights.

    Cotto isn't quite the warrior he'd have us all believe.

    Mosley would K.O cotto in a Re-match.

    Also, for the sake of this argument, id LOVE to see how Cotto handled a PRIME Dela Hoya at 147
    yea cause only a pussy would fight on for 9 rnds with a gash like this one



    or this one

    Re-read the context JimBoogie put it in. He at no point suggested he was a pussy, just that he's not a warrior in the JCC mold. I may not agree with him, but that's no reason to overreact & exaggerate his point

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    Default Re: Why is Mosley ranked higher than Cotto at welterweight?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimboogie View Post
    Fuk all the BALCO talk.

    Cotto is good but Mosley is better. Yeah I know Mosley lost but IMO he fought the wrong fight; He was suprised by Cotto's boxing ability.

    Cotto was on the back foot by the end of the fight. Forget he's excuses for why. The real reasons became apparent in the Margarito and Clottey fights.

    Cotto isn't quite the warrior he'd have us all believe.

    Mosley would K.O cotto in a Re-match.

    Also, for the sake of this argument, id LOVE to see how Cotto handled a PRIME Dela Hoya at 147
    Margarito and Clottey are huge guys for fighting in the welterweight division.

    Anyone can get caught with a good shot and get taken out. It doesn't make them less of a fighter.

    Mosley could get knocked out the same as Cotto in a re-match. Mosley was slowing in that fight with Margarito take another look. I'd give Cotto the upper hand from the middle rounds if they ever faced off again.

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    Default Re: Why is Mosley ranked higher than Cotto at welterweight?

    Quote Originally Posted by fan johnny View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jimboogie View Post
    Fuk all the BALCO talk.

    Cotto is good but Mosley is better. Yeah I know Mosley lost but IMO he fought the wrong fight; He was suprised by Cotto's boxing ability.

    Cotto was on the back foot by the end of the fight. Forget he's excuses for why. The real reasons became apparent in the Margarito and Clottey fights.

    Cotto isn't quite the warrior he'd have us all believe.

    Mosley would K.O cotto in a Re-match.

    Also, for the sake of this argument, id LOVE to see how Cotto handled a PRIME Dela Hoya at 147
    Margarito and Clottey are huge guys for fighting in the welterweight division.

    Anyone can get caught with a good shot and get taken out. It doesn't make them less of a fighter.

    Mosley could get knocked out the same as Cotto in a re-match. Mosley was slowing in that fight with Margarito take another look. I'd give Cotto the upper hand from the middle rounds if they ever faced off again.

    Only problem is mosley's never been stopped before and always finishes strong in his big fights...and now with the extra motivation and nazeem in his corner i think cotto goes to sleep.
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