Pacquiao's Accomplishments aren't really that Great

[DaxxKahn]

I always get a kick out of the fact that up until being destroyed by Manny Hatton "Was" eLITE....

aFTER THE mANNY BEATDOW HE SUDDENLY BECOMES A CLUB FIGHTER IN PEOPLES EYES....

Just like,,,,(pre handwrap issue).....Margarito was nothing more then a club fighter til he beat Cotto......

Can't be both ways....

Hatton was elite, he beat big names in the WW and JWW divisions, he was the man at 140 til he lost to Manny....Hatton was in no way a second rate fighter

[DaxxKahn]

Sanchez, Julio, Lucero, Barrera 2, Morales 2, Larios, Solis, Marquez, Hatton, DLH.......

Pretty damn good resume....

[GAME]

Sanchez, Julio, Lucero, Barrera 2, Morales 2, Larios, Solis, Marquez, Hatton, DLH.......

Pretty damn good resume....

Those are the pros but the cons are

Couldnt beat Sanchez

Got knocked out by Torrencampo

Got knocked out by Singursat

Got beaten by a washed up Morales who was coming off a loss to Barrera

[holmcall]

Think of it this way. Would you be asking the question if they weren't? And oh by the way, if you look atr his entire body of work and know anything about Asian fighters, you would know that he has beaten many tough guys like Wethya Sakmuangklang, Seung-Kon Chae, Chatchai Sasakul, Chokchai Chockvivat, Reynante Jamili,Jorge Eliecer Julio, Fahsan 3K Battery, and Emmanuel Lucero. And this before his lates run of super wins against future Hall of Famers.

This guy is an ATG!

[DaxxKahn]

Sanchez, Julio, Lucero, Barrera 2, Morales 2, Larios, Solis, Marquez, Hatton, DLH.......

Pretty damn good resume....

Those are the pros but the cons are

Couldnt beat Sanchez

Got knocked out by Torrencampo

Got knocked out by Singursat

Got beaten by a washed up Morales who was coming off a loss to Barrera

In the Sanchez fight he was butted and cut not too mention it only went 6 rds, Torrencampo and Singusat were how early in his career?

Thats like saying Bernard Hopkins is not that good BeCause he could not BeaT Clinton Mitchell

[brucelee]

Sanchez, Julio, Lucero, Barrera 2, Morales 2, Larios, Solis, Marquez, Hatton, DLH.......

Pretty damn good resume....

Those are the pros but the cons are

Couldnt beat Sanchez

Got knocked out by Torrencampo

Got knocked out by Singursat

Got beaten by a washed up Morales who was coming off a loss to Barrera

In the Sanchez fight he was butted and cut not too mention it only went 6 rds, Torrencampo and Singusat were how early in his career?

Thats like saying Bernard Hopkins is not that good BeCause he could not BeaT Clinton Mitchell

Pac was actually winning against SAnchez when the fight was called off. Those who keep on bringing Sanchez should better watch again that fight. Pac was hitting SAnchez with power punches and it would just be a matter of few rounds that Sanchez would go down with the punishment he was getting from Pac. Sanchez was the dirtiest fighter I've seen.

Anyway, no need to mention Sanchez unless you're VD's alt.

[ICB]

I always get a kick out of the fact that up until being destroyed by Manny Hatton "Was" eLITE....

aFTER THE mANNY BEATDOW HE SUDDENLY BECOMES A CLUB FIGHTER IN PEOPLES EYES....

Just like,,,,(pre handwrap issue).....Margarito was nothing more then a club fighter til he beat Cotto......

Can't be both ways....

Hatton was elite, he beat big names in the WW and JWW divisions, he was the man at 140 til he lost to Manny....Hatton was in no way a second rate fighter

I think Ricky Hatton was a very good fighter, but i don't know about elite. Who are these big names he beat ? he only had 1 win at Welterweight a very controversial decision against Luis Collazo.

He beat Kostya Tszyu which was a very good win, but he was for certain on the slide at that time IMO. He beat a very faded Jose Luis Castillo.

And his other wins against Ray Olveria, Freddie Pendleton, Ben Tackie, who were shot fighters or just only decent to begin with like Ben Tackie.

And fighters like Paul Malignaggi who is only known for taking a good beating, off Miguel Cotto had looked garbage in his previous fights before the Ricky Hatton one. And Juan Urango got a gift decision to earn his title.

I give Manny Pacquiao alot of credit but i think calling Ricky Hatton elite, or saying he beat big names is a bit of stretch IMO.

But i agree with what your saying Ricky Hatton certainly wasn't no, 2nd rate fighter or ETC. I just never thought Ricky Hatton was that great to be honest, but thats a debatable opinion.

[generalbulldog]

Ricky Hatton was a good fighter, just not elite. I mean would anyone call Arturo Gatti an elite fighter or just good fighter?

And I have to add that Manny Pacquiao is an 1 dimensional fighter/brawler. These guys gets exposed against elite slick boxers. Think Ali-Liston, Whittaker-Chavez, Leonard-Duran 2, Robinson-Lamotta, Mayweather-Gatti, etc.

It's been proven in boxing history that the all time greatest boxers in this sport are slick boxers, 1 dimensional brawlers ends up getting embarrassed.

[DaxxKahn]

I always get a kick out of the fact that up until being destroyed by Manny Hatton "Was" eLITE....

aFTER THE mANNY BEATDOW HE SUDDENLY BECOMES A CLUB FIGHTER IN PEOPLES EYES....

Just like,,,,(pre handwrap issue).....Margarito was nothing more then a club fighter til he beat Cotto......

Can't be both ways....

Hatton was elite, he beat big names in the WW and JWW divisions, he was the man at 140 til he lost to Manny....Hatton was in no way a second rate fighter

I think Ricky Hatton was a very good fighter, but i don't know about elite. Who are these big names he beat ? he only had 1 win at Welterweight a very controversial decision against Luis Collazo.

He beat Kostya Tszyu which was a very good win, but he was for certain on the slide at that time IMO. He beat a very faded Jose Luis Castillo.

And his other wins against Ray Olveria, Freddie Pendleton, Ben Tackie, who were shot fighters or just only decent to begin with like Ben Tackie.

And fighters like Paul Malignaggi who is only known for taking a good beating, off Miguel Cotto had looked garbage in his previous fights before the Ricky Hatton one. And Juan Urango got a gift decision to earn his title.

I give Manny Pacquiao alot of credit but i think calling Ricky Hatton elite, or saying he beat big names is a bit of stretch IMO.

But i agree with what your saying Ricky Hatton certainly wasn't no, 2nd rate fighter or ETC. I just never thought Ricky Hatton was that great to be honest, but thats a debatable opinion.

But again until the Pacquiao loss who was staing different?