Vitali v Haye done deal for September 12th 2009

[El Kabong]

Good points. I agree this is the toughest opponent he has faced barring Lennox.

What? That is ridiculous! David Haye hasn't proven anything at heavyweight other than he likes to talk. He hasn't taken a punch from a heavyweight puncher and he hasn't KO'd a fighter who has never been down/hurt/KO'd before.

I guess David Haye has A chance but it's not a very good one...Vitali has KO'd all but 1 of the fighters he has beaten, he's lost 2 times due to injury/doctor intervention (both times he was up on the cards), and other than that he hasn't had any trouble at all with any fighters. Vitali has the height, reach, power, and experience over Haye and don't think he won't use all of them.

[ICB]

Good points. I agree this is the toughest opponent he has faced barring Lennox.

What? That is ridiculous! David Haye hasn't proven anything at heavyweight other than he likes to talk. He hasn't taken a punch from a heavyweight puncher and he hasn't KO'd a fighter who has never been down/hurt/KO'd before.

I guess David Haye has A chance but it's not a very good one...Vitali has KO'd all but 1 of the fighters he has beaten, he's lost 2 times due to injury/doctor intervention (both times he was up on the cards), and other than that he hasn't had any trouble at all with any fighters. Vitali has the height, reach, power, and experience over Haye and don't think he won't use all of them.

P4P this is easily the best fighter Vitali Klitschko has fought, except for Lennox Lewis of course. We don't know how David Haye will take a punch off a Heavyweight true. But i think in the fights we have seen he has kept all his other attributes and he's a very dangerous opponent.

Lyle i know you like the Klitschko brothers which is fine i got nothing against that, but i do think Vitali Klitschko is overrated sorry i do. People overrate him because he gave a good effort against a bad version of Lennox Lewis.

Outside of that is his career that impressive ? quitting against a very undersized Heavyweight in Chris Byrd. Makes me question his heart because many fighters have gotten through worse. Yes you will say well he showed heart against Lennox Lewis, but fighters can show heart in some fights then completely do a U-Turn in other fights, depending on the situation.

And his victories over Corrie Sanders, Samuel Peter, Kirk Johnson, ETC. Just aren't that impressive, he has a high KO record because he's fought fighters like those. Corrie Sanders don't even take boxing seriously, Samuel Peter is a plodding joke, and Kirk Johnson was an overweight whale, who didn't even train for his fight with Vitali Klitschko.

Is Vitali Klitschko a good fighter ? yes he is but i think his brother shits all over him in every department, except for the chin department. I don't really think Vitali Klitschko is that good of a boxer, he relies alot on his leaning back style and his toughness.

[OumaFan]

Haye by KO, Vitali's breaking down, its gonna happen at some point even if it doesn't happen here.

[Phil]

I'd like to see Haye win and would give him a chance against Wlad because of
Wlads week chin, but unless Vitali has lost his punch resistance over night
I don't give Haye much of a chance, Hayes chin is poor and unless he can
catch Vitali early, Vitali will stop him early...

[El Kabong]

ICB, I have seen any number of really strong cruiserweights come to heavyweight and look less than average, I have a feeling that David Haye is one of those guys simply because he didn't want to really test himself before getting the title shots. Sure people can say "Well the Klitschko's gave him the shot" but in all honesty he talked his way into them and he's going to get flattened.

Vitali's chin is pretty solid, I've only seen him slightly hurt by Corrie Sanders and Lennox Lewis, both guys were really big punchers at heavyweight....David Haye isn't in their league. And the only times Vitali has lost have been because of a really bad cut and a torn rotator cuff.

To beat Vitali, given what we have seen of Haye's chin, David can't afford to get hit at all...do you think this is possible? All Vitali has to do is drop 1 power punch on him, get him in danger and then the fight is over, it's just as simple as that. It's not about Vitali being overrated it's about Haye being overmatched

[Conrad]

To beat Vitali, given what we have seen of Haye's chin, David can't afford to get hit at all...do you think this is possible? All Vitali has to do is drop 1 power punch on him, get him in danger and then the fight is over, it's just as simple as that. It's not about Vitali being overrated it's about Haye being overmatched

It pains me to say it but I agree with Lyle on this one. Vitali is way more difficult to beat than Wlad, the man's fucking granite!

If Lennox Lewis couldn't knock him out then how the hell will David Haye?

[Cortez The Killer]

This will be Vitali's third fight in nearly 4 years. Peter stood there and acted as a punching bag and lasted 8 rounds before he quit. Gomez lasted 9 rounds before he was "tko'd" but in reality it looked to me like he gave up. Gomez also gave Vitali a few good looks during the fight, but couldn't maintain it. I think in both these fights Vitali was breathing out of his mouth by the 4th round or so.

Vitali's right hand doesn't have the powerof Wlads and his jab isn't as good.


Don't think this is going to be a shut out by Vitali by any means. Both guys get cut. the one who gets cut first and worst will probably end up as the loser.

[AdamGB]

ICB, I have seen any number of really strong cruiserweights come to heavyweight and look less than average, I have a feeling that David Haye is one of those guys simply because he didn't want to really test himself before getting the title shots. Sure people can say "Well the Klitschko's gave him the shot" but in all honesty he talked his way into them

because he was allowed to . If he's flirting with Vitali and Wlad then I seriously doubt that he would have been afraid of all of the bums in the top 10. He didn't HAVE TO fight them else he probably would be... and who are the reasons he hasn't had to fight them?

Like I keep telling you calling out other fighters isn't exactly anything new... if the Kilitschos accept than that's their done deal... it' also not rare for a champion to move up straight into a title fight.

That being said although I think that Vitali was less than impressive last time out I still suspect that he will be too strong... unless he has gotten seriously old over night I can't see Haye wearing him down and I can't see him flattening the guy either... not with out getting caught.

Wlad is definetly the more vunerable of the too, somebody who fights terrifed of smaller guys than Haye was his best shot. Vitali won't be afraid to mix it up and will probably be too strong.

It seems like when god made the two of them he took Wla's chin and added onto Vitalis instead.

[DaxxKahn]

I say Haye has some success in the first 3 rds but Vitaly once he gets into the bout will beat him brutally, Vitaly has a real personal dislike for Haye and Vitaly has a hell of a mean streak for guys he doesnt like.

Anyone remember Sanders and Williams?

[Drago]

I say Haye has some success in the first 3 rds but Vitaly once he gets into the bout will beat him brutally, Vitaly has a real personal dislike for Haye and Vitaly has a hell of a mean streak for guys he doesnt like.

Anyone remember Sanders and Williams?

no but i remember chris byrd & lennox lewis

[DaxxKahn]

I say Haye has some success in the first 3 rds but Vitaly once he gets into the bout will beat him brutally, Vitaly has a real personal dislike for Haye and Vitaly has a hell of a mean streak for guys he doesnt like.

Anyone remember Sanders and Williams?

no but i remember chris byrd & lennox lewis

I remember him winning against Byrd until the injury....

Lets not be silly Haye has power but he is in no way the puncher Lennox was

[Drago]

I say Haye has some success in the first 3 rds but Vitaly once he gets into the bout will beat him brutally, Vitaly has a real personal dislike for Haye and Vitaly has a hell of a mean streak for guys he doesnt like.

Anyone remember Sanders and Williams?

no but i remember chris byrd & lennox lewis

I remember him winning against Byrd until the injury....

Lets not be silly Haye has power but he is in no way the puncher Lennox was

would it of been impossible for vitali to of continued against Bryd?

i agree Lewis hits harder than haye but haye should be more aggressive

[DaxxKahn]

no but i remember chris byrd & lennox lewis

I remember him winning against Byrd until the injury....

Lets not be silly Haye has power but he is in no way the puncher Lennox was

would it of been impossible for vitali to of continued against Bryd?

i agree Lewis hits harder than haye but haye should be more aggressive

His shoulder was prettyt much shot cant remember if he had surgery or not but I remember it was useless at that point...

But again...

Haye is not the boxer Byrd was and it will be easier to find haye with the jab

[Drago]

I remember him winning against Byrd until the injury....

Lets not be silly Haye has power but he is in no way the puncher Lennox was

would it of been impossible for vitali to of continued against Bryd?

i agree Lewis hits harder than haye but haye should be more aggressive

His shoulder was prettyt much shot cant remember if he had surgery or not but I remember it was useless at that point...

But again...

Haye is not the boxer Byrd was and it will be easier to find haye with the jab

i know danny williams popped his shoulder out & still continued & knocked the other guy out! i really think vitali would of quit against lennox if hadnt been stopped as well.

[Kel]

I remember him winning against Byrd until the injury....

Lets not be silly Haye has power but he is in no way the puncher Lennox was

would it of been impossible for vitali to of continued against Bryd?

i agree Lewis hits harder than haye but haye should be more aggressive

His shoulder was prettyt much shot cant remember if he had surgery or not but I remember it was useless at that point...

But again...

Haye is not the boxer Byrd was and it will be easier to find haye with the jab

I'm not bashing Vitali for quitting but..........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QY1jzjTjIhY