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there will be because cotto weighed 1 pound less than his last fight, that would make him severely drain
If Cotto looks fresh... which he should at 145, then how can there be any excuses?

I've been one of his biggest critics for the catchweights and I don't think 145 is that big a deal for cotto

Fair play to Roach and arum... by flirting with 142 etc they've made 145 seem like a really good deal... probably the plan all along

it still does baffle me why they've asked for him to shave 1 pound off either they think they're being clever or it's just Diva behaviour... Cotto feels comfortable at Welter... he has a pound to play around with on the scales... so there's no stress for him.

All I can think of is that he's only going to be very very slightly more stressed about making the weight. Just seems like Pac has wanted to throw his weight around (pun unintended) and dictate things for the sake of dictating them. I'm sure his fans will call it mind games or some shit...

Credit to Pac for almost stepping up in weight properly though... (lol the 142 bluffs/shit even make me happy with a catchweight)
Nice to see you on board now Adam and are finally agreeing with me that a 145 catchweight was no big deal.

Rains was being sarcastic though, he was rolling his eyes at the likes of you who in the past made posts telling us that even a single pound was critical and that Cotto would be a shell of a fighter if he fought at anything less than welterweight

Now you're even hoping for more catchweight fights with Mosely at 145, interesting turn around.
Don't start with me...

Can you find a quote from me were I said that Cotto would be a 'shell of a fighter' for dropping one pound?

I was saying that even a pound COULD be a big factor depending on the fighter... and that still reigns true.

my point was not too say that an individual fighter can't possibly lose a single pound... but that each one can be significant... every one past a certain point represents fluids and sugars drained from organs.

All I've wanted to do is make Pac's fans 100% clear of his intentions in getting people to drop weight for him now that he is up to welterweight (sort of...) and that is a stone cold fact... I've not even criticism him for doing it... I've said, countless times... fairplay to him for sorting a mega fight under the fight conditions... his fans talk about him as if he is holier than jesus christ though.

There have been multiple weights talked about for two fighters of completely different stature... Do I think Cotto can do drop a pound? Do I think he'd be drained below 143? Do I think Mosely is tight at 147 and may struggle to go lower? Do I think a Mosely fight at 140 would be crazy and Cotto may struggle too?

Possibly

(Do you purposefully not read the ifs, coulds, cans and mays in posts so you can be more belligerent )

But I don't even profuse to know how well Cotto will do at getting down to any weight... I know what possibilities there are and I know what factors his team will be up against in getting him down to any weight... When will I know if they've pulled it off or not? FIGHT NIGHT... the same as everybody else.

And yeah... I said I'd like to see Pac-Mosely at 145... two things you (suprisingly ) didn't seem to pick up on was the fact that I said IF Mosely could do the weight and also the large amount of blatant sarcasm (thanks for pointing out that he was being sarcastic btw... ) from me saying that Arum had made 145 seem like such a good deal.

Now go and scuttle off and try and quote me as saying that 145 would definitely be too much for cotto.