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    Default Re: Pac agrees to 145 lbs!!!

    i don't see Pac beating Cotto period

    Cotto's not as slow as some are making him out to be, he has awesome timing to make up for the slight edge in speed that goes to Pac, IMO Cotto's the harder hitting stronger guy, he has no problems with southpaw, infact he fights very well in the southpaw stance himself, so his constant switching could actually cause Manny problems

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    Default Re: Pac agrees to 145 lbs!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    i don't see Pac beating Cotto period

    Cotto's not as slow as some are making him out to be, he has awesome timing to make up for the slight edge in speed that goes to Pac, IMO Cotto's the harder hitting stronger guy, he has no problems with southpaw, infact he fights very well in the southpaw stance himself, so his constant switching could actually cause Manny problems
    Cotto has only foughten good southpaws though, and He looked great against Quintana, but he didn't look great against Judah in many parts of that fight, and its not just a slight speed edge for Manny, he is way faster, especially in his footspeed which Quintana didn't have and Judah didn't use.

    That is why Oscar and Hatton had nobody to land on. Also timing works against speed when the guy with doesn't have superior timing, when that is the case it only works against the other fighter. Manny is great at getting in quickly, landing one punch, and getting out.

    I do agree that Cotto is far too great of a fighter to be written off, but his chances IMO can't be higher than 30%, but I could definitely see him ko'ing Manny if he is able to cut off the ring, which I don't think he will be able to do.

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    Default Re: Pac agrees to 145 lbs!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    i don't see Pac beating Cotto period

    Cotto's not as slow as some are making him out to be, he has awesome timing to make up for the slight edge in speed that goes to Pac, IMO Cotto's the harder hitting stronger guy, he has no problems with southpaw, infact he fights very well in the southpaw stance himself, so his constant switching could actually cause Manny problems
    He has problems with the left uppercut which Margo and judah landed multiple times and they rocked him...if ac lands one of those Cotto may go down for the count.
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    Default Re: Pac agrees to 145 lbs!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Manuel "Chubby" Medina View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    i don't see Pac beating Cotto period

    Cotto's not as slow as some are making him out to be, he has awesome timing to make up for the slight edge in speed that goes to Pac, IMO Cotto's the harder hitting stronger guy, he has no problems with southpaw, infact he fights very well in the southpaw stance himself, so his constant switching could actually cause Manny problems
    He has problems with the left uppercut which Margo and judah landed multiple times and they rocked him...if ac lands one of those Cotto may go down for the count.
    since when is Pacquiao known for uppercuts? and a left uppercut at that? Clottey is a stronger man than Manny and even he wasn't able to seriously hurt a one eyed Cotto with the uppercut, a punch that he's pretty much known for, Pacquiao has improved leaps and bounds from what he once was, but he still basically uses, the pawing or quick jab without much power on it to set up the straight left, or the now dangerous right hook, IMO those are Manny's only real weapons, the reason he's so dangerous now though is cause of his accuracy WHEN he's calm and collected, the people that are actually thinking that Cotto is gonna share the same fate as Hatton of getting stopped so early or at all are pretty much taking this shit a bit far

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    yes i just found out about the fight this afternoon...nov 14th M.G.M. Grand....my wife and i have been to mannys last two fights....da la hoya & hatton....i lost both times i bet... o-well we had two free tickets to the fights...."nosebleeds" but what the heck they were free..... i will call the slot host tomorrow and re-quest our two tickets for nov 14th... it should be a good fight..... but i will bet on mr. cotto

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    Quote Originally Posted by BULLDOGBOOGERS View Post
    yes i just found out about the fight this afternoon...nov 14th M.G.M. Grand....my wife and i have been to mannys last two fights....da la hoya & hatton....i lost both times i bet... o-well we had two free tickets to the fights...."nosebleeds" but what the heck they were free..... i will call the slot host tomorrow and re-quest our two tickets for nov 14th... it should be a good fight..... but i will bet on mr. cotto

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    That's alright there partnerWhen Hatton got hit did you here it way up high in the stands? Just curious
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    Quote Originally Posted by LEGION View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BULLDOGBOOGERS View Post
    yes i just found out about the fight this afternoon...nov 14th M.G.M. Grand....my wife and i have been to mannys last two fights....da la hoya & hatton....i lost both times i bet... o-well we had two free tickets to the fights...."nosebleeds" but what the heck they were free..... i will call the slot host tomorrow and re-quest our two tickets for nov 14th... it should be a good fight..... but i will bet on mr. cotto

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    That's alright there partnerWhen Hatton got hit did you here it way up high in the stands? Just curious
    heck yes i herd it.....and i was in the 5th row from the top. my wife then said to me......o.k. lets go play some dollar slots....hehehe

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    Default Re: Pac agrees to 145 lbs!!!

    I don't know why this needs to be at a catch weight TBH.

    I think this could turn out to be a decent fight and Cotto has a sound chance at beating Manny. Hatton made Manny look far more spectacular than he really is. And Clottey and the cut made Cotto look more ordinary.

    I have no interest in Mayweather against Pac and want the both of them to lose their next fights. If they end up fighting then so be it, but I am against them in the meantime.

    Take his head off, Cotto!

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    Default Re: Pac agrees to 145 lbs!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by BULLDOGBOOGERS View Post
    yes i just found out about the fight this afternoon...nov 14th M.G.M. Grand....my wife and i have been to mannys last two fights....da la hoya & hatton....i lost both times i bet... o-well we had two free tickets to the fights...."nosebleeds" but what the heck they were free..... i will call the slot host tomorrow and re-quest our two tickets for nov 14th... it should be a good fight..... but i will bet on mr. cotto

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    Default Re: Pac agrees to 145 lbs!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Manuel "Chubby" Medina View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    i don't see Pac beating Cotto period

    Cotto's not as slow as some are making him out to be, he has awesome timing to make up for the slight edge in speed that goes to Pac, IMO Cotto's the harder hitting stronger guy, he has no problems with southpaw, infact he fights very well in the southpaw stance himself, so his constant switching could actually cause Manny problems
    He has problems with the left uppercut which Margo and judah landed multiple times and they rocked him...if ac lands one of those Cotto may go down for the count.
    since when is Pacquiao known for uppercuts? and a left uppercut at that? Clottey is a stronger man than Manny and even he wasn't able to seriously hurt a one eyed Cotto with the uppercut, a punch that he's pretty much known for, Pacquiao has improved leaps and bounds from what he once was, but he still basically uses, the pawing or quick jab without much power on it to set up the straight left, or the now dangerous right hook, IMO those are Manny's only real weapons, the reason he's so dangerous now though is cause of his accuracy WHEN he's calm and collected, the people that are actually thinking that Cotto is gonna share the same fate as Hatton of getting stopped so early or at all are pretty much taking this shit a bit far
    YouTube - Pacquiao TKO Fahsang 3K Battery

    How about that left uppercut? Does it pass your discriminating taste?
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    Default Re: Pac agrees to 145 lbs!!!

    I think Cotto has to worry more about Pacquiao's right hand a.k.a. "the Manila Ice". It played a big part in his last 3 fights.

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    Default Re: Pac agrees to 145 lbs!!!

    I'm picking Cotto to win this.
    Manny is truly a phenom, but I think a prime and focused Cotto will be too much for him at 145. Miguel won't be as careless as Hatton was, and he won't look as sluggish and drained as Oscar did.
    He has underrated hand-speed, a pretty tight defence and can be a murderous body puncher too.
    It won't be easy, but I'm going with Cotto by 10th round stoppage.

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    Default Re: Pac agrees to 145 lbs!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by KananKrus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Manuel "Chubby" Medina View Post
    He has problems with the left uppercut which Margo and judah landed multiple times and they rocked him...if ac lands one of those Cotto may go down for the count.
    since when is Pacquiao known for uppercuts? and a left uppercut at that? Clottey is a stronger man than Manny and even he wasn't able to seriously hurt a one eyed Cotto with the uppercut, a punch that he's pretty much known for, Pacquiao has improved leaps and bounds from what he once was, but he still basically uses, the pawing or quick jab without much power on it to set up the straight left, or the now dangerous right hook, IMO those are Manny's only real weapons, the reason he's so dangerous now though is cause of his accuracy WHEN he's calm and collected, the people that are actually thinking that Cotto is gonna share the same fate as Hatton of getting stopped so early or at all are pretty much taking this shit a bit far
    YouTube - Pacquiao TKO Fahsang 3K Battery

    How about that left uppercut? Does it pass your discriminating taste?
    are you seriously comparing 3k Battery to Cotto?!? and yea that was at featherweight, how many other fights has he really used the uppercut so effectively, and discriminating? i've given Pacquiao credit for everything he's deserved credit for, Hatton, Morales II, Barrera I, just cause i don't get a hard on from him beating on a bum like David Diaz, beating up a shot weight drained DLH, or barely squeeking by twice against Marquez in fights i don't thing he should have gotten, i think Pacquiao is a great fighter, but he's far from being THE Greatest fighter

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    Default Re: Pac agrees to 145 lbs!!!

    Pac will win im sure of it. I want Cotto to win cause im a bigger fan of his and not really a fan of Pac. But Pac will stop Cotto, hope im wrong but i doubt it.

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