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    Default Re: Calzaghe says he can beat Klitschko

    Quote Originally Posted by mattboxingfan View Post
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    If he made thet weight i dont doubt that he could beat him! Joe Calzaghe rules!
    please, a shot Jones and an old Hopkins put him down in the first, either Klitschko would knock Calzaghe into a coma
    In 46 fights he only got knocked down 3 times so i would say his chin is pritty solid i dont think wlad could KO him.
    Are you high? Wlad would have Calzaghe on queer street inside of 2 minutes. We're talking about a guy who is naturally almost 70lbs heavier that has been KOing the best HWs the world has to offer for years. I'm not a big Kitschko fan but the fact that you even entertain the idea of Joe's chin even holding up to the battering ram jab that Wlad packs for a round is idiocy...
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    Default Re: Calzaghe says he can beat Klitschko

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    funny thing is, he probably could if he waited as long to fight them as he did the current old guys he's taking so much credit for beating.


    He deserves credit for beating B-Hop. B-Hop's performance against Pavlik, was the best performance I have seen from Hopkins. Infact his best performances both came in his forties imo (Tarver & Pavlik) Jones was shot to pieces agreed on that!

    P.S Not to go over old ground, but Joe Calzaghe's SMW resume is better than B-Hops MW resume and equal to RJJ's LHW resume imo
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    Default Re: Calzaghe says he can beat Klitschko

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    funny thing is, he probably could if he waited as long to fight them as he did the current old guys he's taking so much credit for beating.


    He deserves credit for beating B-Hop. B-Hop's performance against Pavlik, was the best performance I have seen from Hopkins. Infact his best performances both came in his forties imo (Tarver & Pavlik) Jones was shot to pieces agreed on that!

    P.S Not to go over old ground, but Joe Calzaghe's SMW resume is better than B-Hops MW resume and equal to RJJ's LHW resume imo
    Totally agree... Thought Hop was shot against Calzaghe but then Nard came out and put on a masterclass beatdown against Pavlik... Gave alot more merit to Calzaghe's win. Agreed with the resume also. Love the Nard but it's true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTON View Post
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    funny thing is, he probably could if he waited as long to fight them as he did the current old guys he's taking so much credit for beating.


    He deserves credit for beating B-Hop. B-Hop's performance against Pavlik, was the best performance I have seen from Hopkins. Infact his best performances both came in his forties imo (Tarver & Pavlik) Jones was shot to pieces agreed on that!

    P.S Not to go over old ground, but Joe Calzaghe's SMW resume is better than B-Hops MW resume and equal to RJJ's LHW resume imo
    Totally agree... Thought Hop was shot against Calzaghe but then Nard came out and put on a masterclass beatdown against Pavlik... Gave alot more merit to Calzaghe's win. Agreed with the resume also. Love the Nard but it's true.
    That's what I call an objective view point!!!

    I actually think RJJ and B-Hop were better fighters p4p than JC, but I think people claiming B-Hop was old and shot against JC is BS and I also think all 3 have questionable resumes during their prime and the weight they reigned at!
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    Default Re: Calzaghe says he can beat Klitschko

    Quote Originally Posted by Saddo View Post
    I replaced the sensationalist article with the real source article....

    WalesOnline - Sports - Boxing - Boxing: Joe Calzaghe enjoying busy retirement

    it was obviously a tongue in cheek comment

    anyways while looking on that welsh site i found this chart topper....

    WalesOnline - News - Wales News - Joe Calzaghe tribute song is a belter

    Joe and Enzo singing hahahah class
    Blimey, that can't be for real?

    It is shockingly cringeworthy
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    Default Re: Calzaghe says he can beat Klitschko

    whats ridiculous is, 99.9% of you skipped over the whole article and are banging on a tongue and cheek comment

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    Default Re: Calzaghe says he can beat Klitschko

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    whats ridiculous is, 99.9% of you skipped over the whole article and are banging on a tongue and cheek comment
    Nah, man... Of course it was tongue and cheek... I commented on the Wack Job that took it seriously and agreeded. The very same dude that said that due to Calzaghe having a good chin that he could take on the brutal onslaught of Wlad's pummeling jab followed by battering ram right hands to win a fight between them...

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    Default Re: Calzaghe says he can beat Klitschko

    Quote Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTON View Post
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    please, a shot Jones and an old Hopkins put him down in the first, either Klitschko would knock Calzaghe into a coma
    In 46 fights he only got knocked down 3 times so i would say his chin is pritty solid i dont think wlad could KO him.
    Are you high? Wlad would have Calzaghe on queer street inside of 2 minutes. We're talking about a guy who is naturally almost 70lbs heavier that has been KOing the best HWs the world has to offer for years. I'm not a big Kitschko fan but the fact that you even entertain the idea of Joe's chin even holding up to the battering ram jab that Wlad packs for a round is idiocy...

    Obviously you dont know what a joke is , and lets be fair the 'best' heavyweights at the mo arent so great!
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    Default Re: Calzaghe says he can beat Klitschko

    Quote Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTON View Post
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    funny thing is, he probably could if he waited as long to fight them as he did the current old guys he's taking so much credit for beating.


    He deserves credit for beating B-Hop. B-Hop's performance against Pavlik, was the best performance I have seen from Hopkins. Infact his best performances both came in his forties imo (Tarver & Pavlik) Jones was shot to pieces agreed on that!

    P.S Not to go over old ground, but Joe Calzaghe's SMW resume is better than B-Hops MW resume and equal to RJJ's LHW resume imo
    Totally agree... Thought Hop was shot against Calzaghe but then Nard came out and put on a masterclass beatdown against Pavlik... Gave alot more merit to Calzaghe's win. Agreed with the resume also. Love the Nard but it's true.
    I wouldn't go that far. Boxing is all about styles. Pavlik ain't exactly a fast combination punching machine like Calzaghe is. Bernard had to fight a more defensive fight against Calzaghe because Calzaghe was gonna be in his face throwing all day. Against Pavlik he could pot shot all night as logn as he avoided the right hand. Two completely different styles and a style like Pavlik's is made for Bernard to look spectacular against. So I wouldn't say it gave Calzaghe's win more merit unless Pavlik had the exact same style. It just showed that he wasn't shot but that he had to fight a different way against Calzaghe. Bernard was never "shot" out of his prime yes, but never shot.
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    Default Re: Calzaghe says he can beat Klitschko

    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty View Post
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    He deserves credit for beating B-Hop. B-Hop's performance against Pavlik, was the best performance I have seen from Hopkins. Infact his best performances both came in his forties imo (Tarver & Pavlik) Jones was shot to pieces agreed on that!

    P.S Not to go over old ground, but Joe Calzaghe's SMW resume is better than B-Hops MW resume and equal to RJJ's LHW resume imo
    Totally agree... Thought Hop was shot against Calzaghe but then Nard came out and put on a masterclass beatdown against Pavlik... Gave alot more merit to Calzaghe's win. Agreed with the resume also. Love the Nard but it's true.
    I wouldn't go that far. Boxing is all about styles. Pavlik ain't exactly a fast combination punching machine like Calzaghe is. Bernard had to fight a more defensive fight against Calzaghe because Calzaghe was gonna be in his face throwing all day. Against Pavlik he could pot shot all night as logn as he avoided the right hand. Two completely different styles and a style like Pavlik's is made for Bernard to look spectacular against. So I wouldn't say it gave Calzaghe's win more merit unless Pavlik had the exact same style. It just showed that he wasn't shot but that he had to fight a different way against Calzaghe. Bernard was never "shot" out of his prime yes, but never shot.

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    In 46 fights he only got knocked down 3 times so i would say his chin is pritty solid i dont think wlad could KO him.
    Are you high? Wlad would have Calzaghe on queer street inside of 2 minutes. We're talking about a guy who is naturally almost 70lbs heavier that has been KOing the best HWs the world has to offer for years. I'm not a big Kitschko fan but the fact that you even entertain the idea of Joe's chin even holding up to the battering ram jab that Wlad packs for a round is idiocy...

    Obviously you dont know what a joke is , and lets be fair the 'best' heavyweights at the mo arent so great!
    Yeah, whatever, guy.
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    funny thing is, he probably could if he waited as long to fight them as he did the current old guys he's taking so much credit for beating.


    He deserves credit for beating B-Hop. B-Hop's performance against Pavlik, was the best performance I have seen from Hopkins. Infact his best performances both came in his forties imo (Tarver & Pavlik) Jones was shot to pieces agreed on that!

    P.S Not to go over old ground, but Joe Calzaghe's SMW resume is better than B-Hops MW resume and equal to RJJ's LHW resume imo
    His performances against Felix Trinidad, Glen Johnson, Sergundo Mercado 2, were better performances IMO. The problem is even though Bernard Hopkins looked impressive in those fights with Antonio Tarver, Kelly Pavlik. He still lacked workrate in those fights. Which is why he lost to Joe Calzaghe and Jermain Taylor.

    As for comparing Bernard Hopkins resume to Joe Calzaghe's, well some of Joe Calzaghe's best wins over Charles Brewer, Richie Woodhall, ETC. lost to fighters Bernard Hopkins beat. Which may not be much of an argument, but it is still an interesting point to bring up IMO. I really don't think there resume's are much different.

    Most of Joe Calzaghe's best wins were against fighters, who were on the downslide. And most of Bernard Hopkins wins were against undersized opponents. So it really comes down to what you think is more relevant, but even though both mens resume's at the one weightclass they dominated at are nothing special.

    They still never ducked anyone in there weightclass, which is a good point to bring up. And really and truthfully which fighters, who have dominated one weightclass, really has alot of special names anyway ? because i don't think theres many.
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    Anyone who is taking this seriously is an idiot.

    There seems to be a lot about on this thread

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    Default Re: Calzaghe says he can beat Klitschko

    Quote Originally Posted by Saddo View Post
    I replaced the sensationalist article with the real source article....

    WalesOnline - Sports - Boxing - Boxing: Joe Calzaghe enjoying busy retirement

    it was obviously a tongue in cheek comment

    anyways while looking on that welsh site i found this chart topper....

    WalesOnline - News - Wales News - Joe Calzaghe tribute song is a belter

    Joe and Enzo singing hahahah class

    Hahahaha that song is utter shite !! Funny though.

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