Forgotten fighter-trainer pairings

[El Kabong]

OK, that's understandable.


This thread also has me wondering why guys like Tommy Brooks, Ronnie Shields, et al don't have better fighters or don't have any good heavyweights.

Also I am wondering why Kevin Rooney's best fighter since Tyson left was Vinny Paz, and his best heavyweight since that time was Thomas Hayes. If his system works, and for some guys (stocky, short fighters, with quick hands) it does.

[rjj tszyu]

OK, that's understandable.


This thread also has me wondering why guys like Tommy Brooks, Ronnie Shields, et al don't have better fighters or don't have any good heavyweights.

Also I am wondering why Kevin Rooney's best fighter since Tyson left was Vinny Paz, and his best heavyweight since that time was Thomas Hayes. If his system works, and for some guys (stocky, short fighters, with quick hands) it does.

I think that basically the U.S. is short of fighters on the whole at the minute, with a lot of would be fighters taking less dangerous routes such as Football and basketball etc.

If the guys with the natural talents aren't really there anymore, at least not in the same way they once were, then even the great trainers can't make them into the next Evanders or Roy Jones'.

The reason I used the 2 names I did are I know that both were capable at other sports (Evander Football and Roy Basketball) and apparently could have made pro at them sports, but both chose boxing instead and both became ATG's. In this day and age I think a lot of people in the same position may well take the other sport due to the risk/reward factor.

Thats not to say a good living cannot be made from boxing, it's just a sport that you have to reach the top in and risk being killed every time you perform to make millions.

So to me it's not the trainers that lose it but rather the natural talent is few and far between now!

[Master]

Jorge Rubio and Amir Khan
Naz and Manny