Bradley vs Campbell

[skel1983]

I think Campbell tried being clever, as he new the cut would only get worst and after 4 rounds more chance of it going to Bradley if it was stopped.

Bit of a shame really but props to Bradley starting to get on a bit of a roll and I think he deserves a big fight now. Where do you see him going? There isnt much happening at 140 in terms of huge money fights other than Hatton v Bradley and I cant see Hatton fighting a dangerous fighter like Bradley. I like Bradelys attitude maybe he will have to go 147 if he wants the big pay days.

[Gandalf]

I think Campbell tried being clever, as he new the cut would only get worst and after 4 rounds more chance of it going to Bradley if it was stopped.

Bit of a shame really but props to Bradley starting to get on a bit of a roll and I think he deserves a big fight now. Where do you see him going? There isnt much happening at 140 in terms of huge money fights other than Hatton v Bradley and I cant see Hatton fighting a dangerous fighter like Bradley. I like Bradelys attitude maybe he will have to go 147 if he wants the big pay days.

I like Bradley, he tries hard. He is nothing special in any particular area but has fairly quick hands and works and works. You sense that he is getting better fight by fight too. I think he should stick around at 140 for a few more fights as he is young and makes the weight easily. But you are right in that 140 looks a bit dry at the moment.

[rocky55]

The hate Nate Campbell is getting for stopping with the cut is funny to me. Where were these people when Barerra was fighting Khan? That were saying that Barerra should have backed out of the fight and that the cut was terrible and how Khan should get no credit whatsoever.

Now Bradley gets no criticism whatsoever in fact now Campbell is getting a lot of flack for pulling out.

This double standard in boxing annoys me. On one hand you have a fighter not do it and you bash him and his opponent for it, and on this hand you have a fighter that does it and you say he isn't a warrior and you've lost respect?

Which one is it gonna be?

I agree it should have been a NC. The only difference is that there were two clean rounds prior and I didn't see Campbell in the fight at all. He got the butt and wanted out immediately. In that sense I see it more like Toney:Rahman 2 than Barrera:Khan.

Isn't it there's a head clash prior in round 2 tho no cut suffered yet?

[BoomBoom]

It was a crappy ending to what was supposed to be a great fight.

The referee was worthless, and the cut was caused by an accidental butt and thus the result should have been a NC and not a TKO win for Bradley.

BUT Campbell asked for the fight to be stop and quit. And anytime you quit in the other guys hometown, knowing that the referee never confirmed that the cut was from an accidental clash of heads, well you are risking getting screwed.

There is still a chance the commission could over turn this like they did with the Rahman vs. Toney fight.

Thats what surprised me. Nate is always complaining about the politics of boxing, yet as a seasoned pro he banks on the Calafornia officials to be "fair." He is now 0-3 in California. I think that he does have issues fighting away from his hometown of Florida, which he seldom does.

[Hunter]

IMO Nate wanted out of that fight. I think he knew he was outgunned and as soon as the cut happened he tryed to get out of the fight. Like others have said Nate should have at least found out what the ruling was on the cut (punch or HB). Instead he basically told his corner he quit. Once he found out the ref ruled it a punch he should have at least tryed to continue for a half round or so. See what happens.......

[Hulk]

It was a crappy ending to what was supposed to be a great fight.

The referee was worthless, and the cut was caused by an accidental butt and thus the result should have been a NC and not a TKO win for Bradley.

BUT Campbell asked for the fight to be stop and quit. And anytime you quit in the other guys hometown, knowing that the referee never confirmed that the cut was from an accidental clash of heads, well you are risking getting screwed.

There is still a chance the commission could over turn this like they did with the Rahman vs. Toney fight.

Thats what surprised me. Nate is always complaining about the politics of boxing, yet as a seasoned pro he banks on the Calafornia officials to be "fair." He is now 0-3 in California. I think that he does have issues fighting away from his hometown of Florida, which he seldom does.

I think Nate knew he was behind on the cards, and felt the cut was bad and the fight would be stopped in the next couple rounds so rather than go to the cards and lose a decision he tried to get a no contest.

It backfired though cus of the ref being a dodgy lil bitch.

[Julius Rain]

the old dummy nate came out last night. Nate wanted out of that fight and intentionally tried to get a no contest decision. His suppose to be a matured pro now but relied on officials to call the fight fair? He was getting beat up and knock back to the ropes.

I think Bradley deserves credit he pounded Nate anywhere he can hit him. Nate imo knew he wasn't going to last so he went for a nc decision.

[kingfrnk]

the old dummy nate came out last night. Nate wanted out of that fight and intentionally tried to get a no contest decision. His suppose to be a matured pro now but relied on officials to call the fight fair? He was getting beat up and knock back to the ropes.

I think Bradley deserves credit he pounded Nate anywhere he can hit him. Nate imo knew he wasn't going to last so he went for a nc decision.

i agree with everything above

[JT Rock]

the old dummy nate came out last night. Nate wanted out of that fight and intentionally tried to get a no contest decision. .

Bradley Butted him, the Ref called it that was stuttering and stammering and looked like a deer in the headlights after the fight... The Butt caused the cut, ringside Doc saw blood behind nates eye and nate couldnt see.. Regardless of how the fight would have panned out, the fact remains the ref blew it and it was a bad call

[BoxingGorilla]

I'm late with my imput on last night's showdown because someone in this house can't stop playing around on Farmville.

Campbell should have gotten his NC but it did seem like he was on his way to some sort of defeat.

I hope I was able to explain the situation to you dum-dum pops.

Seriously, what is there left to say after that? In fact the only reason I posted a comment is so you guys know I'm alive.

[Violent Demise]

the cut is not long but it's reported as deep gash. i found one pic posted below.

That cut would bleed into his eye.

I know, I already said that, but others have gone on with cuts like that, is all I'm saying.

Let me ask this, Campbell was dedicating this fight in part to Gatti, do you think Gatti would have quit with a cut like that? I think not.

No he would not. Your 100% right

[johnsebastianmiran]

Campbell was beat to the punch from beginning to end but rules are rules. If the referee was alert it would be a no contest but either way, that fight belonged to Bradley.

[RozzySean]

the old dummy nate came out last night. Nate wanted out of that fight and intentionally tried to get a no contest decision. .

Bradley Butted him, the Ref called it that was stuttering and stammering and looked like a deer in the headlights after the fight... The Butt caused the cut, ringside Doc saw blood behind nates eye and nate couldnt see.. Regardless of how the fight would have panned out, the fact remains the ref blew it and it was a bad call

Nobody on this board disagrees that it was a bad call. Maybe you think Bradley was butting intentional. I don't see it that way. I think the butt was unintentional. Yes, it should have been an NC. This is not the first or last time ref got it wrong, but Nate was clearly looking to have the fight stopped. If Nate had felt that he was going to win the fight, he would have soldiered on I promise you- like Cotto and many others have done.

I feel for Nate getting a bad call. The same thing happened to Ward against Phillips and it sucked when that happened, and it sucked again for Ward in the Leija fight when a cut caused by a punch got called a butt and Leija got the win from hometown judges. Nobody like to see the wrong call, but you are acting like Tim Bradley and the ref rain a train on your mom or your sister. I would have loved to see Nate pull it off last night, but it wasn't his night. I know, he knew it, most people watching knew it, and if you get over yourself and rewatch the fight objectively, you will know it, too.

If Nate wasn't fighting a dirty fight himself, perhaps people would have more simpathy for him. But Nate was butting, holding, hitting low, and generally trying to play head games with Bradley. That was pretty obvious.

You make a bad analogy to the JMM/Diaz fight. Don't even try to make like Nate would have been able to pull a JMM against Bradley. Even old, Marquez was clearly faster than Diaz (never known for his handspeed anyway). It looked like Diaz might be able to dictate the fight based on strenght and aggression, but he wasn't making Marquez look old. He was making him look small.

[ElTerribleMorales]

the old dummy nate came out last night. Nate wanted out of that fight and intentionally tried to get a no contest decision. .

Bradley Butted him, the Ref called it that was stuttering and stammering and looked like a deer in the headlights after the fight... The Butt caused the cut, ringside Doc saw blood behind nates eye and nate couldnt see.. Regardless of how the fight would have panned out, the fact remains the ref blew it and it was a bad call

Nobody on this board disagrees that it was a bad call. Maybe you think Bradley was butting intentional. I don't see it that way. I think the butt was unintentional. Yes, it should have been an NC. This is not the first or last time ref got it wrong, but Nate was clearly looking to have the fight stopped. If Nate had felt that he was going to win the fight, he would have soldiered on I promise you- like Cotto and many others have done.

I feel for Nate getting a bad call. The same thing happened to Ward against Phillips and it sucked when that happened, and it sucked again for Ward in the Leija fight when a cut caused by a punch got called a butt and Leija got the win from hometown judges. Nobody like to see the wrong call, but you are acting like Tim Bradley and the ref rain a train on your mom or your sister. I would have loved to see Nate pull it off last night, but it wasn't his night. I know, he knew it, most people watching knew it, and if you get over yourself and rewatch the fight objectively, you will know it, too.

If Nate wasn't fighting a dirty fight himself, perhaps people would have more simpathy for him. But Nate was butting, holding, hitting low, and generally trying to play head games with Bradley. That was pretty obvious.

You make a bad analogy to the JMM/Diaz fight. Don't even try to make like Nate would have been able to pull a JMM against Bradley. Even old, Marquez was clearly faster than Diaz (never known for his handspeed anyway). It looked like Diaz might be able to dictate the fight based on strenght and aggression, but he wasn't making Marquez look old. He was making him look small.

yea i agree, even though i kinda felt that the comments from Bradley were a bit out of place (the whole, "i was gonna win anyway, he was getting older"), i very much doubt that the headbutt was intentional, he seems to be a complete class act and willing to take on anyone, and that's only something you can admire, i hope the decision is overruled, cause if there's ever one that should be it's this one, but i doubt it will

[BoxingGorilla]

Bradley is a very good fighter, but I think Campbell breaks him down.

Campbell by decision, maybe even a late stoppage!!!

There you go Fenster. You were just a few weeks away from victory.