Cotto's welterweight belt is on the line!!!

[Julius Rain]

Roach says 6th I say 5th and Pacfans say 7th lol

you dont count 126? you dont know your own favorite fighter was the champ there and not jmm. mab was ring champion when pac beat him. thats 6th titles and 147 would make it the record 7th title.

ring champ, but held no world title, which is what they basically rule it by, i for one count Pacquiao as a 6 weight class champ, but don't agree that he's held 4 lineal titles

ofcourse you dont agree he's held 4 lineal title, that something hard for a guy like you to do.

[ElTerribleMorales]

you dont count 126? you dont know your own favorite fighter was the champ there and not jmm. mab was ring champion when pac beat him. thats 6th titles and 147 would make it the record 7th title.

ring champ, but held no world title, which is what they basically rule it by, i for one count Pacquiao as a 6 weight class champ, but don't agree that he's held 4 lineal titles

ofcourse you dont agree he's held 4 lineal title, that something hard for a guy like you to do.

well sorry last lineal champ at Flyweight was Yong-Kang Kim, there hasn't been a lineal champ since 1989

[Fenster]

ring champ, but held no world title, which is what they basically rule it by, i for one count Pacquiao as a 6 weight class champ, but don't agree that he's held 4 lineal titles

ofcourse you dont agree he's held 4 lineal title, that something hard for a guy like you to do.

well sorry last lineal champ at Flyweight was Yong-Kang Kim, there hasn't been a lineal champ since 1989

That's not right.. The Ring went out of buisness for a short time in 1989, when they restarted they stopped recognising lineal champs. That's why the lineage is lost in 1989. They then ignored their own history when they restarted the ratings years later.

You can trace Pac from Yong-Kang Kim.

Yong Kang Kim-Sot Chitalada-Maungchai Kittikasem-Yuri Arbachakov-Chatchai Sasakul-Manny Pacquiao.

The man who beat the man

[generalbulldog]

ofcourse you dont agree he's held 4 lineal title, that something hard for a guy like you to do.

well sorry last lineal champ at Flyweight was Yong-Kang Kim, there hasn't been a lineal champ since 1989

That's not right.. The Ring went out of buisness for a short time in 1989, when they restarted they stopped recognising lineal champs. That's why the lineage is lost in 1989. They then ignored their own history when they restarted the ratings years later.

You can trace Pac from Yong-Kang Kim.

Yong Kang Kim-Sot Chitalada-Maungchai Kittikasem-Yuri Arbachakov-Chatchai Sasakul-Manny Pacquiao.

The man who beat the man

I award thee this certificate based on a brilliant post.

[ElTerribleMorales]

funny thing is that pretty much every OTHER division after 89 has a lineal champion put most as early as the early 90's

[rocky55]

well sorry last lineal champ at Flyweight was Yong-Kang Kim, there hasn't been a lineal champ since 1989

That's not right.. The Ring went out of buisness for a short time in 1989, when they restarted they stopped recognising lineal champs. That's why the lineage is lost in 1989. They then ignored their own history when they restarted the ratings years later.

You can trace Pac from Yong-Kang Kim.

Yong Kang Kim-Sot Chitalada-Maungchai Kittikasem-Yuri Arbachakov-Chatchai Sasakul-Manny Pacquiao.

The man who beat the man

I award thee this certificate based on a brilliant post.

this fenster guy must have ownage doctorate. perfectly owned the other guy elterrible.

[ElTerribleMorales]

yea he sure is this is coming from the same guy who had Witter as one of the top guys at 140

[Fenster]

yea he sure is this is coming from the same guy who had Witter as one of the top guys at 140

In 2005 Witter was rated no.5 best lightwelter on the planet by The Ring. Over the next couple of years, after winning the WBC title, he rose to no.1 best lightwelter on the planet according to The Ring.

If you are rated no.1 by The Ring it pretty much makes you a top fighter, right?

Now don't get upset ElTerribleMorales, my intention was not to "own" you, about Pac at flyweight, just to merely inform.

[Julius Rain]

ofcourse you dont agree he's held 4 lineal title, that something hard for a guy like you to do.

well sorry last lineal champ at Flyweight was Yong-Kang Kim, there hasn't been a lineal champ since 1989

That's not right.. The Ring went out of buisness for a short time in 1989, when they restarted they stopped recognising lineal champs. That's why the lineage is lost in 1989. They then ignored their own history when they restarted the ratings years later.

You can trace Pac from Yong-Kang Kim.

Yong Kang Kim-Sot Chitalada-Maungchai Kittikasem-Yuri Arbachakov-Chatchai Sasakul-Manny Pacquiao.

The man who beat the man

thanks fenster for not getting tired of having to explain that because i sure have.

well sorry last lineal champ at Flyweight was Yong-Kang Kim, there hasn't been a lineal champ since 1989

That's not right.. The Ring went out of buisness for a short time in 1989, when they restarted they stopped recognising lineal champs. That's why the lineage is lost in 1989. They then ignored their own history when they restarted the ratings years later.

You can trace Pac from Yong-Kang Kim.

Yong Kang Kim-Sot Chitalada-Maungchai Kittikasem-Yuri Arbachakov-Chatchai Sasakul-Manny Pacquiao.

The man who beat the man

I award thee this certificate based on a brilliant post.

That's not right.. The Ring went out of buisness for a short time in 1989, when they restarted they stopped recognising lineal champs. That's why the lineage is lost in 1989. They then ignored their own history when they restarted the ratings years later.

You can trace Pac from Yong-Kang Kim.

Yong Kang Kim-Sot Chitalada-Maungchai Kittikasem-Yuri Arbachakov-Chatchai Sasakul-Manny Pacquiao.

The man who beat the man

I award thee this certificate based on a brilliant post.

this fenster guy must have ownage doctorate. perfectly owned the other guy elterrible.

[JazMerkin]

you dont count 126? you dont know your own favorite fighter was the champ there and not jmm. mab was ring champion when pac beat him. thats 6th titles and 147 would make it the record 7th title.

ring champ, but held no world title, which is what they basically rule it by, i for one count Pacquiao as a 6 weight class champ, but don't agree that he's held 4 lineal titles

ofcourse you dont agree he's held 4 lineal title, that something hard for a guy like you to do.

Most don't believe that the 'lineal' championship at 108 existed, it's a tenuous link getting there.

But what's with the personal attacks on people?

If someone disagrees even in the slightest about his achievements they become a 'Pac-hater' right