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    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    After sitting out for more than two years it looks like 96' Olympic gold medalist,Cruiserweight champion and body cracking extraordinar Vassiliy The Tiger Jirov 37-3-1 (31) is on the comeback trail as a cruiserweight...where he belongs.He's reunited with his long time manager Ivaylu Gotzev and looking to regain his status in a deepening 190 division with a initial fight sometime in September against the indomitable and ever present "TBA".

    Have always been a fan and will be interested in seeing this unfold,glad to see it.After a successful run as 190 Champion that came to a head with his tough foty worthy battle with a top form James Toney,Jirov traveled the path of many previous solid cruisers and went for the bigger bank roll as a heavyweight...bad move.He brought his rough and tumble fan friendly style in against heavily hyped and undefeated Joe Mesi,bouncing him off the deck a couple of times and I think he got shafted on the cards.That was followed by a tko loss to a much bigger Michael moorer after leading on the cards.After that he just faded away.

    Returning after long layoffs can have mixed results,especially for fighters with Jirovs frontal oriented offense,a willing style and many years under the belt.I think the weight is key as he was never suited for heavyweight and once he sheds the rust it will be good to see him going against a top guy.Has always been a exciting bruising body hitter,I think one of the best of his time and has a deceptive accurate punch selection.Time will tell but Jirov vs Adamek trainwreck anyone ?.Will be watching!!!
    The performance that impressed me was his fight, against Terry McGroom. He KO'ed Terry McGroom with one perfect body shot, and this is the same Terry McGroom that lost a razor thin close decision, to James Toney. Yes James Toney had an off night, but still Terry McGroom's tactic's were still spot on.

    Vassiliy Jirov is an all action fighter, and whats not too like about him ? im not sure how he will be after the lay off though, i can only see this ending in tears, but i wish him the best of luck. And by the way James Toney vs Vassiliy Jirov should of won the FOTY.

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    Default Re: Back in the mix...Jirov !!

    he's apparently back with the old trainer he had, the one he dumped before the Toney fight. And he's been looking bad ever since. So maybe this is just what he needs at the right weight class. No real Cruiserweights to give him problems that I can see. Where is O'neil Bell?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    After sitting out for more than two years it looks like 96' Olympic gold medalist,Cruiserweight champion and body cracking extraordinar Vassiliy The Tiger Jirov 37-3-1 (31) is on the comeback trail as a cruiserweight...where he belongs.He's reunited with his long time manager Ivaylu Gotzev and looking to regain his status in a deepening 190 division with a initial fight sometime in September against the indomitable and ever present "TBA".

    Have always been a fan and will be interested in seeing this unfold,glad to see it.After a successful run as 190 Champion that came to a head with his tough foty worthy battle with a top form James Toney,Jirov traveled the path of many previous solid cruisers and went for the bigger bank roll as a heavyweight...bad move.He brought his rough and tumble fan friendly style in against heavily hyped and undefeated Joe Mesi,bouncing him off the deck a couple of times and I think he got shafted on the cards.That was followed by a tko loss to a much bigger Michael moorer after leading on the cards.After that he just faded away.

    Returning after long layoffs can have mixed results,especially for fighters with Jirovs frontal oriented offense,a willing style and many years under the belt.I think the weight is key as he was never suited for heavyweight and once he sheds the rust it will be good to see him going against a top guy.Has always been a exciting bruising body hitter,I think one of the best of his time and has a deceptive accurate punch selection.Time will tell but Jirov vs Adamek trainwreck anyone ?.Will be watching!!!
    The performance that impressed me was his fight, against Terry McGroom. He KO'ed Terry McGroom with one perfect body shot, and this is the same Terry McGroom that lost a razor thin close decision, to James Toney. Yes James Toney had an off night, but still Terry McGroom's tactic's were still spot on.

    Vassiliy Jirov is an all action fighter, and whats not too like about him ? im not sure how he will be after the lay off though, i can only see this ending in tears, but i wish him the best of luck. And by the way James Toney vs Vassiliy Jirov should of won the FOTY.
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    I think it was actually. Of course I'm a huge Toney fan. I actually didn't think it was as close a fight as some did though which could count against it.

    Majesty I suspect there's a good number of cruisers who could give him trouble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    After sitting out for more than two years it looks like 96' Olympic gold medalist,Cruiserweight champion and body cracking extraordinar Vassiliy The Tiger Jirov 37-3-1 (31) is on the comeback trail as a cruiserweight...where he belongs.He's reunited with his long time manager Ivaylu Gotzev and looking to regain his status in a deepening 190 division with a initial fight sometime in September against the indomitable and ever present "TBA".

    Have always been a fan and will be interested in seeing this unfold,glad to see it.After a successful run as 190 Champion that came to a head with his tough foty worthy battle with a top form James Toney,Jirov traveled the path of many previous solid cruisers and went for the bigger bank roll as a heavyweight...bad move.He brought his rough and tumble fan friendly style in against heavily hyped and undefeated Joe Mesi,bouncing him off the deck a couple of times and I think he got shafted on the cards.That was followed by a tko loss to a much bigger Michael moorer after leading on the cards.After that he just faded away.

    Returning after long layoffs can have mixed results,especially for fighters with Jirovs frontal oriented offense,a willing style and many years under the belt.I think the weight is key as he was never suited for heavyweight and once he sheds the rust it will be good to see him going against a top guy.Has always been a exciting bruising body hitter,I think one of the best of his time and has a deceptive accurate punch selection.Time will tell but Jirov vs Adamek trainwreck anyone ?.Will be watching!!!
    The performance that impressed me was his fight, against Terry McGroom. He KO'ed Terry McGroom with one perfect body shot, and this is the same Terry McGroom that lost a razor thin close decision, to James Toney. Yes James Toney had an off night, but still Terry McGroom's tactic's were still spot on.

    Vassiliy Jirov is an all action fighter, and whats not too like about him ? im not sure how he will be after the lay off though, i can only see this ending in tears, but i wish him the best of luck. And by the way James Toney vs Vassiliy Jirov should of won the FOTY.
    Better than Gatti-Ward III
    Yes no doubt in my mind i didn't think Arturo Gatti vs Micky Ward 3, was that great it was mostly one sided, except for the flash knockdown Micky Ward got. Where as in the James Toney fight, you see much more skillful fighting, better action, and it was more dramatic. Plus the 12th round is possibly one of the best rounds of the decade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
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    The performance that impressed me was his fight, against Terry McGroom. He KO'ed Terry McGroom with one perfect body shot, and this is the same Terry McGroom that lost a razor thin close decision, to James Toney. Yes James Toney had an off night, but still Terry McGroom's tactic's were still spot on.

    Vassiliy Jirov is an all action fighter, and whats not too like about him ? im not sure how he will be after the lay off though, i can only see this ending in tears, but i wish him the best of luck. And by the way James Toney vs Vassiliy Jirov should of won the FOTY.
    Better than Gatti-Ward III
    Yes no doubt in my mind i didn't think Arturo Gatti vs Micky Ward 3, was that great it was mostly one sided, except for the flash knockdown Micky Ward got. Where as in the James Toney fight, you see much more skillful fighting, better action, and it was more dramatic. Plus the 12th round is possibly one of the best rounds of the decade.
    I thought that Gatti-Ward III was far more even, I think I had it 6-4 for Gatti, but I thought Toney-Jirov was almost all Toney, some fine skill levels, but for me it's overrated as a great exciting fight, I thought Toney won all but maybe 3 rounds. I know a lot of people rate it highly, but for me it wasn't a fight that I can watch again & again, in the way I can with the Gatti-Ward trilogy. I mean not that it's not an exciting fight, but for me it's exciting in the way Mayweather-Ndou was, high-pace but with one guy clearly dominating.

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    Better than Gatti-Ward III
    Yes no doubt in my mind i didn't think Arturo Gatti vs Micky Ward 3, was that great it was mostly one sided, except for the flash knockdown Micky Ward got. Where as in the James Toney fight, you see much more skillful fighting, better action, and it was more dramatic. Plus the 12th round is possibly one of the best rounds of the decade.
    I thought that Gatti-Ward III was far more even, I think I had it 6-4 for Gatti, but I thought Toney-Jirov was almost all Toney, some fine skill levels, but for me it's overrated as a great exciting fight, I thought Toney won all but maybe 3 rounds. I know a lot of people rate it highly, but for me it wasn't a fight that I can watch again & again, in the way I can with the Gatti-Ward trilogy. I mean not that it's not an exciting fight, but for me it's exciting in the way Mayweather-Ndou was, high-pace but with one guy clearly dominating.
    I haven't actually seen Arturo Gatti vs Micky Ward 3, in quite sometime but i remember Arturo Gatti pretty much dominating. Except when he got knocked down which did change the fight around somewhat, but i didn't think it was as close as you had it, i believe i had Arturo Gatti winning 7 rounds clearly.

    I agree that James Toney vs Vassiliy Jirov wasn't as close, as some people think it was. But i don't think it was like Floyd Mayweather vs Phillio N'dou. That was clearly a one sided fight and maybe only 1 round was debatable.

    Where as even though Vassiliy Jirov wern't landing, many clean punches. Atleast he was making it a very physical fight, and he was able to make rounds debatable enough for them too be close based on his workrate, i think i had it 7-4-1 for James Toney, but again its all just opinions and tastes. Your not wrong im not wrong just are tastes differ.

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    Jirov is gonna have a rough go of it.
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    I was a big Jirov fan back in his heyday. It will be good to see Jirov live on tv..it feels like ages since I've seen him fight live. The two year layoff probably refreshed Jirov and did him a world of good. At 35 he'll have to move fast but I think if he can get back to 80% of what he used to be he can be a player in the division. Not sure if he could beat Guillermo Jones or Tomasz Adamek at this point in his career but I'd give him a decent shot at beating the other belt holders.

    Last fight against Kenny Craven

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    Here he is back in the day

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    Last edited by TigerFan; 08-09-2009 at 05:12 PM.

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