Who's higher P4P of all time

[Fenster]

1. Roy
2. Calzaghe
3. Hopkins

I don't think Hopkins beat anyone that Calzaghe and Jones (I don't think Roy would have lost to Tarver or Johnson had he not jumped up to heavyweight). would have been troubled by.

Hopkins lost twice to Taylor. I could never see a weak finisher like Taylor going 24 rounds with either Calzaghe or Roy. They would not need to be "prime" to KO him.

Finally, both Roy and Calzaghe beat Hopkins on the back of him showing top winning form before and after, so no real excuses. Hopkins ranks third of the three.

[BIG H]

I don't think B-Hop's opposition at Middleweight was any better than Calzaghe's at SMW, but I do think (and it's subjective) that B-Hop is/was a better fighter than JC


The big blip on Hopkins career for mwe is the 2 losses to JT. Those fights were there to be won, but only fought for the last 4 rounds in each fight.

[kingfrnk]

1. Hopkins
2. Jones
3. Calzaghe

[VictorCharlie]

Jones
Hopkins
JC

I think Bernard was better boxer than Roy and that has lead to a longer career at the top but Roy's tremendous athletic abilities are hard to find an equal to anywhere in boxing.

[Fenster]

I don't think B-Hop's opposition at Middleweight was any better than Calzaghe's at SMW, but I do think (and it's subjective) that B-Hop is/was a better fighter than JC


The big blip on Hopkins career for mwe is the 2 losses to JT. Those fights were there to be won, but only fought for the last 4 rounds in each fight.

I don't see Hopkins no way near as talented as either of them. What he lacked in talent though he made up for in guile.

He's the Peter Ebdon of boxing.

[Spicoli]

I don't think B-Hop's opposition at Middleweight was any better than Calzaghe's at SMW, but I do think (and it's subjective) that B-Hop is/was a better fighter than JC


The big blip on Hopkins career for mwe is the 2 losses to JT. Those fights were there to be won, but only fought for the last 4 rounds in each fight.

I don't see Hopkins no way near as talented as either of them. What he lacked in talent though he made up for in guile,smooth counter punching,defense of the Matrix,the right hand of Bruce Lee ( the good one),the ring generalship of Patton and the non smacking frantic fits of a epileptic adolescent

He's the Peter Ebdon of boxing.

Fixed it for you

[Fenster]

I don't think B-Hop's opposition at Middleweight was any better than Calzaghe's at SMW, but I do think (and it's subjective) that B-Hop is/was a better fighter than JC


The big blip on Hopkins career for mwe is the 2 losses to JT. Those fights were there to be won, but only fought for the last 4 rounds in each fight.

I don't see Hopkins no way near as talented as either of them. What he lacked in talent though he made up for in guile,smooth counter punching,defense of the Matrix,the right hand of Bruce Lee ( the good one),the ring generalship of Patton and the non smacking frantic fits of a epileptic adolescent

He's the Peter Ebdon of boxing.

Fixed it for you

Ah right.. I guess for me it must be a case of - when you think your girlfriend is beautiful but everyone else thinks she's ugly. Just the reverse.

[Spicoli]

I don't see Hopkins no way near as talented as either of them. What he lacked in talent though he made up for in guile,smooth counter punching,defense of the Matrix,the right hand of Bruce Lee ( the good one),the ring generalship of Patton and the non smacking frantic fits of a epileptic adolescent

He's the Peter Ebdon of boxing.

Fixed it for you

Ah right.. I guess for me it must be a case of - when you think your girlfriend is beautiful but everyone else thinks she's ugly. Just the reverse.

Ha.Ol' Hopkins can definitly be a brown bagger .I wish all of the women in my life could be as jaw dropping and as firery as they were in back in college

[Fenster]

Fixed it for you

Ah right.. I guess for me it must be a case of - when you think your girlfriend is beautiful but everyone else thinks she's ugly. Just the reverse.

Ha.Ol' Hopkins can definitly be a brown bagger .I wish all of the women in my life could be as jaw dropping and as firery as they were in back in college

And you're a fan that hasn't had to watch his fights at 4am.


(stop rolling the eyes, Ouma)

[Gandalf]

1. Roy
2. Calzaghe
3. Hopkins

I don't think Hopkins beat anyone that Calzaghe and Jones (I don't think Roy would have lost to Tarver or Johnson had he not jumped up to heavyweight). would have been troubled by.

Hopkins lost twice to Taylor. I could never see a weak finisher like Taylor going 24 rounds with either Calzaghe or Roy. They would not need to be "prime" to KO him.

Finally, both Roy and Calzaghe beat Hopkins on the back of him showing top winning form before and after, so no real excuses. Hopkins ranks third of the three.

That's a sound logic so I would have it the same way.

[Fenster]

1. Roy
2. Calzaghe
3. Hopkins

I don't think Hopkins beat anyone that Calzaghe and Jones (I don't think Roy would have lost to Tarver or Johnson had he not jumped up to heavyweight). would have been troubled by.

Hopkins lost twice to Taylor. I could never see a weak finisher like Taylor going 24 rounds with either Calzaghe or Roy. They would not need to be "prime" to KO him.

Finally, both Roy and Calzaghe beat Hopkins on the back of him showing top winning form before and after, so no real excuses. Hopkins ranks third of the three.

That's a sound logic so I would have it the same way.

You'd be right then. Fact.