Froch is the favourite for Super Six Tournament

[leftylee]

Maybe they have Froch as favourite becuase his meeting with Taylor is the only form guide we have, none of the others having met each other before.

KO'ing the former undisputed middleweight champion of the world, a fighter who has only ever been beaten by one other man (dodgy scorecards withstanding) is probably seen as great form going in to this.

Abraham at super middleweight is an unknown, also Miranda aside he's never fought an elite opponent.

Kessler lost to Calzaghe and has been pretty inactive since. Maybe he should be favourite, but its clear only Froch has a win over a p4p guy at this point.

Both Andre's are largely unknown quantities, Ward less so following his dominant win over Miranda, more impressive than Abraham's outings imo, although he's yet to fight at world class so we can't really put him above Artur.

I think the bookies have a tough time with this. Obviously in Britain many will be backing Froch, and as the only fighter to already have a win in this class, and by KO, it's understandable they have made him favourite.

Kessler is probably the most sensible choice if I had to pick, he is a proven performer at this level.

I guess Abraham would be at 3, but he's still yet to fight in this class, and has not yet fought at 168.

Taylor has the skills to beat them all, but in fading to Pavlik and now Froch, and barely hanging on against Winky Wright there are justifiably many doubts about his ability to last into the championship rounds so a risky choice to put money on.

The Andre's could both certainly do well, but we have no form guide to go on with them, especially Dirrell so they deserve to be the betting outsiders at this point.

Who did Froch fight who was a P4P fighter? Taylor was far, far removed from that status and Pascal isn't even close.

Also, you found Ward's victory over Miranda better than Abraham's? I disagree there. The first Abraham - Miranda fight, while it could (and possibly should) have been a TKO, was an extremely impressive show of heart by Abraham and I think (ignore the TKO scenario) that even without the point deductions Abraham won. In the second fight, he absolutely schooled and then stopped Miranda. Ward's performance was good as well, but the version of Miranda he beat was a lot more known and exposed than the one Abraham defeated twice.

I gave Miranda the first 3 rounds of the second fight. No way was Abraham winning after 3.

[CFH]

Maybe they have Froch as favourite becuase his meeting with Taylor is the only form guide we have, none of the others having met each other before.

KO'ing the former undisputed middleweight champion of the world, a fighter who has only ever been beaten by one other man (dodgy scorecards withstanding) is probably seen as great form going in to this.

Abraham at super middleweight is an unknown, also Miranda aside he's never fought an elite opponent.

Kessler lost to Calzaghe and has been pretty inactive since. Maybe he should be favourite, but its clear only Froch has a win over a p4p guy at this point.

Both Andre's are largely unknown quantities, Ward less so following his dominant win over Miranda, more impressive than Abraham's outings imo, although he's yet to fight at world class so we can't really put him above Artur.

I think the bookies have a tough time with this. Obviously in Britain many will be backing Froch, and as the only fighter to already have a win in this class, and by KO, it's understandable they have made him favourite.

Kessler is probably the most sensible choice if I had to pick, he is a proven performer at this level.

I guess Abraham would be at 3, but he's still yet to fight in this class, and has not yet fought at 168.

Taylor has the skills to beat them all, but in fading to Pavlik and now Froch, and barely hanging on against Winky Wright there are justifiably many doubts about his ability to last into the championship rounds so a risky choice to put money on.

The Andre's could both certainly do well, but we have no form guide to go on with them, especially Dirrell so they deserve to be the betting outsiders at this point.

Who did Froch fight who was a P4P fighter? Taylor was far, far removed from that status and Pascal isn't even close.

Also, you found Ward's victory over Miranda better than Abraham's? I disagree there. The first Abraham - Miranda fight, while it could (and possibly should) have been a TKO, was an extremely impressive show of heart by Abraham and I think (ignore the TKO scenario) that even without the point deductions Abraham won. In the second fight, he absolutely schooled and then stopped Miranda. Ward's performance was good as well, but the version of Miranda he beat was a lot more known and exposed than the one Abraham defeated twice.

I gave Miranda the first 3 rounds of the second fight. No way was Abraham winning after 3.

Abraham may not have been winning at the point, because he had done nothing offensively, but that doesn't mean he wasn't making Miranda do exactly what he wanted him to do. Miranda couldn't penetrate his defense at all, was made to do exactly what Abraham wanted him to do, and got knocked out the instant Abraham started to punch. I would consider that a schooling.

[leftylee]

Who did Froch fight who was a P4P fighter? Taylor was far, far removed from that status and Pascal isn't even close.

Also, you found Ward's victory over Miranda better than Abraham's? I disagree there. The first Abraham - Miranda fight, while it could (and possibly should) have been a TKO, was an extremely impressive show of heart by Abraham and I think (ignore the TKO scenario) that even without the point deductions Abraham won. In the second fight, he absolutely schooled and then stopped Miranda. Ward's performance was good as well, but the version of Miranda he beat was a lot more known and exposed than the one Abraham defeated twice.

I gave Miranda the first 3 rounds of the second fight. No way was Abraham winning after 3.

Abraham may not have been winning at the point, because he had done nothing offensively, but that doesn't mean he wasn't making Miranda do exactly what he wanted him to do. Miranda couldn't penetrate his defense at all, was made to do exactly what Abraham wanted him to do, and got knocked out the instant Abraham started to punch. I would consider that a schooling.

Talk about contradicting.

So if a fighter gets dominated the first 3 rounds of a fight and then all of a sudden has a big 4th round and wins by KO he schooled his opponent in the entire fight? Whatever.

[CFH]

I gave Miranda the first 3 rounds of the second fight. No way was Abraham winning after 3.

Abraham may not have been winning at the point, because he had done nothing offensively, but that doesn't mean he wasn't making Miranda do exactly what he wanted him to do. Miranda couldn't penetrate his defense at all, was made to do exactly what Abraham wanted him to do, and got knocked out the instant Abraham started to punch. I would consider that a schooling.

Talk about contradicting.

So if a fighter gets dominated the first 3 rounds of a fight and then all of a sudden has a big 4th round and wins by KO he schooled his opponent in the entire fight? Whatever.

It's not a contradiction at all. Miranda was not dominating anything. If he was winning it was because he fighting offensively while Abraham did nothing. He never landed anything of real significance, Abraham made him do what he wanted him to do and then knocked him out as soon as he opened up. Miranda did nothing in that fight but hit gloves and then get knocked out; he did nothing offensively significant through the entire fight.