Marciano and Generational Bias

[BIG H]

And I'll be happy to argue the opposition point any time, because he fought the best they had out there. Guys like Phil Muscato, Rex Layne, Moore (IBHF), Charles (IBHF), Walcott (IBHF), Louis (IBHF), LaStarza (57-9), Harry Matthews (90-7-6), and many other rugged hombres.

It was a era where fighters continued to take on the top flight opposition right to the end of their careers.

Guys like Muscato, Layne & Matthews were good solid pros, but they don't add any weight to a resume for somebody claiming to be an ATG.

Moore is a great name, but he was a veteran of about 200 fights by that time

Walcott was at the end of his career and had already lost a tonne of fights by this time

Charles - Again a veteran of some 70 fights, but was still the best win on Marciano's record imo

I would have liked to see Marciano fight any of the 3 above during their prime

Maricano's opposition in terms of hs opponents win loss ratio is the worst of any of the so called great heavyweights (and the vast majority of the good ones)

He beat who was put in front of him and you can't knock an unbeaten record and I'm not syaing he was or wasn't the greatest, I'm just saying that we certainly can't use his resume as an argument in his favour.

Understood, but your dealing with what ifs, and I'm deaaling with whats--except when I make the argument at lighter weight which this is abouit.

I would love to have seen Marciano versus these guys in their prime at Crusier - some great fights there....

Michael Spinks
Archie Moore
Ezzard Charles
Evander Holyfield
Roy Jones Jnr

[holmcall]

Guys like Muscato, Layne & Matthews were good solid pros, but they don't add any weight to a resume for somebody claiming to be an ATG.

Moore is a great name, but he was a veteran of about 200 fights by that time

Walcott was at the end of his career and had already lost a tonne of fights by this time

Charles - Again a veteran of some 70 fights, but was still the best win on Marciano's record imo

I would have liked to see Marciano fight any of the 3 above during their prime

Maricano's opposition in terms of hs opponents win loss ratio is the worst of any of the so called great heavyweights (and the vast majority of the good ones)

He beat who was put in front of him and you can't knock an unbeaten record and I'm not syaing he was or wasn't the greatest, I'm just saying that we certainly can't use his resume as an argument in his favour.

Understood, but your dealing with what ifs, and I'm deaaling with whats--except when I make the argument at lighter weight which this is abouit.

I would love to have seen Marciano versus these guys in their prime at Crusier - some great fights there....

Michael Spinks
Archie Moore
Ezzard Charles
Evander Holyfield
Roy Jones Jnr

Me too!!

[BIG H]

Understood, but your dealing with what ifs, and I'm deaaling with whats--except when I make the argument at lighter weight which this is abouit.

I would love to have seen Marciano versus these guys in their prime at Crusier - some great fights there....

Michael Spinks
Archie Moore
Ezzard Charles
Evander Holyfield
Roy Jones Jnr

Me too!!

Who come out on top in that Super six though?

[ICB]

I would love to have seen Marciano versus these guys in their prime at Crusier - some great fights there....

Michael Spinks
Archie Moore
Ezzard Charles
Evander Holyfield
Roy Jones Jnr

Me too!!

Who come out on top in that Super six though?

I respect Rocky Marciano and normally defend him, when people call him overrated and ETC. But against some of the modern greats at Light Heavyweight/Cruiserweight, he would lose to most of them. He just hasn't got the skills, speed, athletism, to hang with people like James Toney, Roy Jones Jr.

[awdleyfuturehalloffamer]

You never know who is going to win until you get them in the ring.

[holmcall]

I would love to have seen Marciano versus these guys in their prime at Crusier - some great fights there....

Michael Spinks
Archie Moore
Ezzard Charles
Evander Holyfield
Roy Jones Jnr

Me too!!

Who come out on top in that Super six though?

The Rock!!!!!!!!!

[Chris Nagel]

Now if only Archie Moore was just a little younger and just as wise, and if Ezzard was in good health I'd like to see if Marciano could take them.

Archie hit Marciano with an uppercut that turned his head into a merry-go-round, and out of the guys, a top flight Ezzard Charles would have the best chance of out boxing Rocky.

Otherwise, undoubtedly I'd go with Rocco all the way.

[Scrap]

I think the era helped Him. when you realise who was running Boxing at that time