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    Guys like Muscato, Layne & Matthews were good solid pros, but they don't add any weight to a resume for somebody claiming to be an ATG.

    Moore is a great name, but he was a veteran of about 200 fights by that time

    Walcott was at the end of his career and had already lost a tonne of fights by this time

    Charles - Again a veteran of some 70 fights, but was still the best win on Marciano's record imo

    I would have liked to see Marciano fight any of the 3 above during their prime

    Maricano's opposition in terms of hs opponents win loss ratio is the worst of any of the so called great heavyweights (and the vast majority of the good ones)

    He beat who was put in front of him and you can't knock an unbeaten record and I'm not syaing he was or wasn't the greatest, I'm just saying that we certainly can't use his resume as an argument in his favour.

    Understood, but your dealing with what ifs, and I'm deaaling with whats--except when I make the argument at lighter weight which this is abouit.
    I would love to have seen Marciano versus these guys in their prime at Crusier - some great fights there....

    Michael Spinks
    Archie Moore
    Ezzard Charles
    Evander Holyfield
    Roy Jones Jnr

    Me too!!

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    Understood, but your dealing with what ifs, and I'm deaaling with whats--except when I make the argument at lighter weight which this is abouit.
    I would love to have seen Marciano versus these guys in their prime at Crusier - some great fights there....

    Michael Spinks
    Archie Moore
    Ezzard Charles
    Evander Holyfield
    Roy Jones Jnr


    Me too!!

    Who come out on top in that Super six though?
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    I would love to have seen Marciano versus these guys in their prime at Crusier - some great fights there....

    Michael Spinks
    Archie Moore
    Ezzard Charles
    Evander Holyfield
    Roy Jones Jnr


    Me too!!

    Who come out on top in that Super six though?
    I respect Rocky Marciano and normally defend him, when people call him overrated and ETC. But against some of the modern greats at Light Heavyweight/Cruiserweight, he would lose to most of them. He just hasn't got the skills, speed, athletism, to hang with people like James Toney, Roy Jones Jr.

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    You never know who is going to win until you get them in the ring.

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    I would love to have seen Marciano versus these guys in their prime at Crusier - some great fights there....

    Michael Spinks
    Archie Moore
    Ezzard Charles
    Evander Holyfield
    Roy Jones Jnr


    Me too!!

    Who come out on top in that Super six though?


    The Rock!!!!!!!!!

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    Now if only Archie Moore was just a little younger and just as wise, and if Ezzard was in good health I'd like to see if Marciano could take them.

    Archie hit Marciano with an uppercut that turned his head into a merry-go-round, and out of the guys, a top flight Ezzard Charles would have the best chance of out boxing Rocky.

    Otherwise, undoubtedly I'd go with Rocco all the way.
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    I think the era helped Him. when you realise who was running Boxing at that time
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