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When I read this title I thought I had come from the bar and drank too much. But then I remembered...I don't drink! WTF! Bernard Hopkins overrated?! Really Well, we know who on this forum doesn't watch boxing. Outside of the RJJ fight name one fight in Bernard's career where he was beat without controversy? YOU CAN'T!!! I am no BHop fan at all! But I know what the truth is and I know Bernard is definitely not overrated. That is just stupid. Who is the only man to beat Kelly Pavlik and with ease at that? Who is the only man to KO Felix Trinidad? Who is the only man to KO, not TKO, Oscar De la Hoya? Who is the only man to KO Glen Johnson? Who is the only man in boxing history to go defend his middleweight title 20 times successfully? Who gave Joe Calzaghe his closest and only controversial fight at 44 years old? Anybody who thinks Calzaghe won that fight convincingly is drunk off hatred. He may have won but that fight was razor thin either way. What is overrated about Bernard Hopkins Anybody can break down any fighter with bullcrap hating stats and in attempts to lessen his status. But how do you take away the accomplishments? I challenge anyone who thinks BHop is overrated to name a fighter who they think is better at middleweight and I will show how that fighter is overrated. That game is too easy to do when you don't have to show their accomplishments and belittle "all" of them with facts. Tarver was the undisputed light heavweight champ, Winky was the most avoided fighter in the game, Pavlik was the undefeated KO steamrolling middleweight champ, and BHop was over 40 years old beating all these guys. Name one guy who you think is better than BHop and its an easy picking to belittle their status just as well. RJJ, PBF, Pac, they all can be belittle but the argument will sound just as stupid as...Bernard Hopkins is overrated.
There is no denying that Hopkins has been an excellent fighter over the years. I really do think that for the last half a decade he has been less and less impressive and more and more about trying to seek size advantages over his opponents.

Taylor gave him fits. That's a fact, Taylor as we all know isn't all that good.

Tarver was indeed "the man", but he was somewhat of a one trick pony. He got Jones Jr at the right time, and hardly has the most fascinating of resumes.

Winky was somewhat flabby at MW, fighting as a LHW was just disgusting. Winky was huffing all over the place with that tire around his waist.

Pavlik too, was way beyond what he should have been fighting at. But regardless, Hopkins did look very good doing what he did.

Calzaghe too was going up in weight. And it was a relatively close fight but Calzaghe clearly beat a fighter whose only strategy was to pot shot, hold and try to cheat down the stretch. It was convincing enough, but closer than most of Calzaghe's fights so Hopkins deserves some credit there.

I liked Hopkins a lot, but the last few years have been a case of manipulating the weight game. Tarver was the only opponent where Hopkins didn't try to do it.
Thing is had Trinidad,Pavlik,De La Hoya,Winky Wright all beaten Hopkins nobody would mention the weight thing. While ever Pacquiao is winning the weight thing won't be an issue but soon as he gets his head weaved into the canvas it won't be he just werent good enough it will be the weight he werent a true light welter or welter this is just a example.