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    Default Re: How skilled is Wladimir Klitschko really?

    Quote Originally Posted by jokaleras View Post
    Those lefthooks against Austin? Sure, now let's see him throw multiple lefthooks in quick succession without both of his feet together. Actually, it speaks of how awful Austin is that he got caught by a lead lefthook. Even RJJ and Sugar Ray Robinson would set up theirs with feints.

    Buster Douglas troubled Tyson with his height and reach advantage? Sure and it was also the feints and lateral movement and that jab he would double and triple up to maneuver Tyson. If you're implying that Wlad would beat a prime Tyson this way you're absolutely wrong. Douglas could move twenty times better than Wlad. Mike Tyson would easily slip Wlad's sometimes lethargic jab and tear his ass up on the inside. Furthermore, Wlad lacks a good uppercut to even trouble the smaller Tyson should he get on the inside. I won't even address the rest of that post as it is full of holes.

    As for that Ibragimov comment you made: Ibragimov was loading up a counter? what are you saying?? you mean he was actually telegraphing his punches and that Wlad couldn't counter telegraphed punches?
    And that right cross? Why couldn't Wlad remember that basic rule about fighting southpaws? To keep your lead foot outside of the southpaw's right foot? Couldn't he have delivered the right crosses in that way? Maybe he could've used his rear/right foot more to get himself into proper positions, that's how Hopkins knocked down Tarver. It's how Marco Antonio Barrera put on a masterful boxing exhibition against Hamed. Of course, he ain't that technically sound. He constantly has his rear foot right behind his left foot. He can't expect to get good leverage on that right cross that way. It's a good thing he has a serious reach and size advantage over some of his opponents.
    There's no point in arguing with you because you're a hater and no matter who Wlad beats or how Wlad beats them it's not going to change your mind. Anytime I bring up a time when Wladimir did well you'll come along and say "Yeah but that was vs _____".

    "Douglas could move twenty times better than Wlad" Oh really Lethargic jab?? Anybody have any issues with that other than myself? I never said whether Wlad would or wouldn't beat a Prime Mike Tyson (oh by the way who the hell did he fight) I simply said Wladimir has the skill set to beat that style of fighter. Mike Tyson got hurt by: Lewis, Douglas, Holyfield, Bruno, and Smith...I rate Wladimir's power right behind Lennox Lewis'.

    As for the fight with Sultan, it wasn't his best performance but Wlad came out with the W and as a fighter sometimes you have to take what is given to you. Wlad has fought more southpaws than any other heavyweight in modern times and the last one he fought was on short notice...it's not an easy thing to adapt to

    Leftylee, David Haye was handed TWO shots at the Klitschko brothers and DAVID HAYE pussed out of both fights to try and get title vs the easiest opponent he could find with a major belt.

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    Default Re: How skilled is Wladimir Klitschko really?

    Metaphorically speaking, the man is like a Boa Constrictor..Look at his stats.

    If the guy infront of him wants to 'think' for 2.5 minutes a round, He'll invariabley get 'out-thought'.

    The more they open up, the more they get beat up.

    If their/ we are lucky enough, Wlad will just knock the guy out before either 'thinking' or 'fighting' has had a chance to oocur... Sometimes with one arm.

    Incredible really.
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    Vlad is very skilled, can he be frustrating to watch? At times yes he can be, but for a heavyweight that is in his early 30's and that has almost 60 fights and as nearly that many knockouts says something about him and his skills. The same people that hate him will tune in and watch him until his hundredth fight because you never know what might happen either he will look really impressive or really crappy but either way someone will more than likely get knocked out.

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    Default Re: How skilled is Wladimir Klitschko really?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jokaleras View Post
    Those lefthooks against Austin? Sure, now let's see him throw multiple lefthooks in quick succession without both of his feet together. Actually, it speaks of how awful Austin is that he got caught by a lead lefthook. Even RJJ and Sugar Ray Robinson would set up theirs with feints.

    Buster Douglas troubled Tyson with his height and reach advantage? Sure and it was also the feints and lateral movement and that jab he would double and triple up to maneuver Tyson. If you're implying that Wlad would beat a prime Tyson this way you're absolutely wrong. Douglas could move twenty times better than Wlad. Mike Tyson would easily slip Wlad's sometimes lethargic jab and tear his ass up on the inside. Furthermore, Wlad lacks a good uppercut to even trouble the smaller Tyson should he get on the inside. I won't even address the rest of that post as it is full of holes.

    As for that Ibragimov comment you made: Ibragimov was loading up a counter? what are you saying?? you mean he was actually telegraphing his punches and that Wlad couldn't counter telegraphed punches?
    And that right cross? Why couldn't Wlad remember that basic rule about fighting southpaws? To keep your lead foot outside of the southpaw's right foot? Couldn't he have delivered the right crosses in that way? Maybe he could've used his rear/right foot more to get himself into proper positions, that's how Hopkins knocked down Tarver. It's how Marco Antonio Barrera put on a masterful boxing exhibition against Hamed. Of course, he ain't that technically sound. He constantly has his rear foot right behind his left foot. He can't expect to get good leverage on that right cross that way. It's a good thing he has a serious reach and size advantage over some of his opponents.
    There's no point in arguing with you because you're a hater and no matter who Wlad beats or how Wlad beats them it's not going to change your mind. Anytime I bring up a time when Wladimir did well you'll come along and say "Yeah but that was vs _____".

    "Douglas could move twenty times better than Wlad" Oh really Lethargic jab?? Anybody have any issues with that other than myself? I never said whether Wlad would or wouldn't beat a Prime Mike Tyson (oh by the way who the hell did he fight) I simply said Wladimir has the skill set to beat that style of fighter. Mike Tyson got hurt by: Lewis, Douglas, Holyfield, Bruno, and Smith...I rate Wladimir's power right behind Lennox Lewis'.

    As for the fight with Sultan, it wasn't his best performance but Wlad came out with the W and as a fighter sometimes you have to take what is given to you. Wlad has fought more southpaws than any other heavyweight in modern times and the last one he fought was on short notice...it's not an easy thing to adapt to

    Leftylee, David Haye was handed TWO shots at the Klitschko brothers and DAVID HAYE pussed out of both fights to try and get title vs the easiest opponent he could find with a major belt.
    fair enough!

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